I work for Mayor Nenshi, ask me anything!

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Same scenario, found out about it while watching the morning news at 8AM when the trucks go by at 7:30... So you tell me, how in the hell am I supposed to time warp to get my garbage out before I wake up?

Also, the fiance plowed our alley so the garbage trucks should be able to get through anyways.

I believe it's not legal for him to do that, he might want to be careful.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I believe it's not legal for him to do that, he might want to be careful.

It's not legal for him to do named streets. Alleys don't count. They looked into it first.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by FireFly

It's not legal for him to do named streets. Alleys don't count. They looked into it first.

Good to know! I assume the garbage trucks don't know that the alley is plowed, since it isn't the city doing it.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Same scenario, found out about it while watching the morning news at 8AM when the trucks go by at 7:30... So you tell me, how in the hell am I supposed to time warp to get my garbage out before I wake up?

Also, the fiance plowed our alley so the garbage trucks should be able to get through anyways.

I'm just asking whether this was a week ago and not really defending them here.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by FireFly

...Tempted to throw it in the back of the fiance's work truck and have him dump it on the lawn at city hall.

Can't believe you're so selfish! The Council has been extremely busy debating the Public Arts Policy and here you are with your petty little issues...

[bomber317]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Can't believe you're so selfish! The Council has been extremely busy debating the Public Arts Policy and here you are with your petty little issues...

I really really really want an orange loop somewhere else in the city.

I don't believe art projects should have public say, but I would do it for the Orange loop.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by bomber317

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I don't believe art projects should have public say...

Who should?

[bomber317]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Who should?

I don't have a solution, but if the public did have a say, we would not have our Peace Bridge, at least not in our current form. (yes, there are other issues at hand with the piece bridge, but taking just the "art" into account, we all remember the chinese finger trap comments)

Art is very subjective, we didn't have art in our house for the longest time because my wife and I never agreed on any pieces. It took an outsider's expertise to put pieces in that made sense and worked for both of us.

I don't have an answer or solution because I'm not involved or have been exposed to that field.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Slava

I'm just asking whether this was a week ago and not really defending them here.

Last week; again this week. Had they told us last week, "for the next two weeks, please move your garbage to the front," that would be fine. But again, zero notice.

On a more positive, they did take the garbage, but not the recycling. I guess everything goes in the garbage until they finally pick the recycling up!

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Who should?

None of us should, for sure. Public art isn't always going to be popular initially, but I imagine over time thoughts and emotions towards them disappear or change. If the public has say on art, then we're ensuring lots of great pieces will never be done.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by bomber317

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Art is very subjective...It took an outsider's expertise to put pieces in that made sense and worked for both of us. ...

As is the outsider's expertise. See, you and your wife did finally agree on what art to buy for your house after listening to the advice. The public does not have that luxury. Most of the time, it is the taste of a person (politician, bureaucrat or both), who is in power to authorize its purchase. Even when so called art experts are added to the selection committees, the decisions are still heavily affected by their personal tastes or lack thereof.

The classic example of the art expertise subjectivity comes from New York, where a few entrepreneurial art gallery owners in the mid-XX century have made themselves very financially successful by becoming the gatekeepers of the new American abstract art. They've heavily promoted unknown (thus, cheap) young artists that rooted their work in Bauhaus and Russian avant-garde to the rich buyers. Rich buyers promoted it further to their friends and then further to the public institutions, which accepted the work as donations-in-kind, exhibition loans and other tangible and intangible benefits to the benefactors. The PR machine went full–circle. The initially unknown and unrecognized artwork became expensive and "standard", while people who started the machine and made it standard became the "experts".

During Renaissance, artists including Michelangelo and da Vinci had to present their work commissioned for public display to the public and subject themselves to its evaluation even though the work itself was commissioned by royalty and/or clergy. It was often done in competitions. Coincidentally (or not), this is when the world's best and most time-proven artwork has been produced.

I also don't have the right answer, that I think will work 100%, but I do believe in collective wisdom and goodness when it comes to public spending. Perhaps, naively.

[KelVarnsen]

How come my garbage and recycling haven't picked up yet? I live in West Springs.

[Minnie]

A bike lane on Macleod? Are you ####ting me? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Minnie

A bike lane on Macleod? Are you ####ting me? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

It's being looked at as part of the centre city cycling network planning. It would be 1st SE between the Bow and Elbow Rivers only - but subject to more detailed analysis of traffic data.

1st SE carries 6000 fewer vehicles per day than it used to 10-15 years ago. Also, the downtown segment carries 4 lanes at its lowest volume points, whereas just south of the Elbow as traffic accumulates southbound, it has 3. Currently the trip from Bow to Elbow takes about 4.5 minutes during PM peak and early analysis shows with a cycle track and mitigation measures like some advanced turning and signal optimization that trip would increase by about 30 seconds.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

How come my garbage and recycling haven't picked up yet? I live in West Springs.

Don't know. I'd give 311 a buzz.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Minnie

A bike lane on Macleod? Are you ####ting me? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Originally Posted by Bunk

It's being looked at as part of the centre city cycling network planning. It would be 1st SE between the Bow and Elbow Rivers only - but subject to more detailed analysis of traffic data.

1st SE carries 6000 fewer vehicles per day than it used to 10-15 years ago. Also, the downtown segment carries 4 lanes at its lowest volume points, whereas just south of the Elbow as traffic accumulates southbound, it has 3. Currently the trip from Bow to Elbow takes about 4.5 minutes during PM peak and early analysis shows with a cycle track and mitigation measures like some advanced turning and signal optimization that trip would increase by about 30 seconds.

I always love a knee-jerk statement followed by someone bringing actual facts to the table.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Bunk

It's being looked at as part of the centre city cycling network planning. It would be 1st SE between the Bow and Elbow Rivers only - but subject to more detailed analysis of traffic data.

1st SE carries 6000 fewer vehicles per day than it used to 10-15 years ago. Also, the downtown segment carries 4 lanes at its lowest volume points, whereas just south of the Elbow as traffic accumulates southbound, it has 3. Currently the trip from Bow to Elbow takes about 4.5 minutes during PM peak and early analysis shows with a cycle track and mitigation measures like some advanced turning and signal optimization that trip would increase by about 30 seconds.

Good luck with that. Knee jerk or not, I still think it's a ridiculous idea and I know I'm not the only one. And I'd be curious to know what sort of measuring meter you're using to measure this with because I've been on those roads at those times and it never takes 4.5 minutes to get from Bow to Elbow. It's usually much longer. And as narrow as those downtown roads are? It's going to be like a really bad game of Frogger.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by Bunk

. . . and mitigation measures like some advanced turning and signal optimization . . .

How about working on optimizing and properly synchronizing the traffic lights in the city for the automobile traffic first?

[Rathji]

Do you honestly think there is a separate system of traffic lights that the bikes use?

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

How about working on optimizing and properly synchronizing the traffic lights in the city for the automobile traffic first?

No kidding. Start with rush hour on 4th, 5th, and 6th ave. Those roads flow well during dead times, but it takes 30 mins to traverse 10 blocks on those roads at peak time.