12-17-2013, 08:05 PM
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#21
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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It seems like they just couldn't connect more than two passes in a row all game. I really don't remember seeing any sustained pressure after the first period...
Oh well, it's a rebuild, I am curious to see what else Byron does with his opportunity, he had that HUGE opportunity in front in the third.
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12-17-2013, 08:10 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Scoutski
It seems like they just couldn't connect more than two passes in a row all game. I really don't remember seeing any sustained pressure after the first period...
Oh well, it's a rebuild, I am curious to see what else Byron does with his opportunity, he had that HUGE opportunity in front in the third.
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Yep. Seems like the Flames couldn't handle the Bruins' physicality and smothering play, and the Bruins D-men at times were pinching at will and quickly closing in on any Flames player who had the puck, which caused a lot of brutal turnovers.
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12-17-2013, 08:15 PM
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#23
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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This game was kind of boring tbh. I didn't feel that entertained.
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12-17-2013, 08:18 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Can next season come faster?
I want Gaudreau, Poirier, Sieloff and Dal Colle now.
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2019 can't come soon enough.
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12-17-2013, 08:20 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Some good hits and we showed up im only disappointed that we got shut out but the effort was there. And that bouma hit was a beauty too bad he will get the horns this game.
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12-17-2013, 08:21 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
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aIf the Flames score in those first 10 minutes, especially Big Ern's chance, this is a different PGT. I love this team though they never stop trying to give a full 60 minute effort through mistakes and all they always play the next shift with effort. I truly did believe that when Stajan said as much after the Buffalo game. The growing pains of a 1st year rebuild team in management transition and a identity overhaul isn't so bad after all. I mean if you look at it the Flames have had brief moments of malfunctioning and some bad third and second periods during games they should/could have won:
Game 1:
Washington - We had a 3 goal lead twice in this game. We ended up salvaging a point after collapsing in the third.
Game 3:
Vancouver - We had a 3-1 lead heading into the third before surrendering 3 goals in the first 10 minutes. They hacked out a point in the OT loss.
Game 9:
Phoenix - The Flames tied it up early in the third, but lack of focus and a few bad shifts after gaining momentum saw the Flames give up the winning goal just 2:47 seconds later.
Game 10:
Dallas - 3 goals in under a minute in a close 1-1 battle prior to was the difference in a game the Flames were in up until the meltdown.
Game 12:
Toronto - A bad play with seconds left in the first, on the PP to boot is ultimately the true deciding factor in this game though it was not the winning goal. An empty net late puts it away in a game the Flames outshot the Leafs 43 to 22.
Game 20:
Edmonton - A 2-0 lead going into the third evaporates before their eyes, lack of intensity here sees the Flames play away two points.
Game 24:
Chicago - A 2-0 lead with 10 minutes left at home disappears right before the Flames eyes as they find themselves playing complacent and not to their game. Two more points lost in an overall good effort.
Game 28:
Colorado - The flames were handling the game quite nicely until 2 goals in 54 seconds late in the 2nd put them behind the 8 ball going into the third. An early goal in the third finished the Flames off though it ended up being a game winner with a late push from Calgary. 54 seconds a major reason why the Flames loss out on points this game.
Game 30:
Boston - Again, a great game going late into third with lack of ability to net some insurance the Flames once again surrender the 1-0 lead with 2 goals 1 and a half minutes apart late in the third. Playing complacent and not to their style once again bites the flames and they give another 2 points away.
Game 32:
NYR - The Flames jump out to the third period lead but again are having the growing pains of a young, rebuilding team. A surrendered 3 period lead ends up in a point for the Flames in this shoot-out loss.
That's 17 points we have lost in games where we could have won if they had stuck to their game and played out a full 60 minutes and 9 of those points were surrendered with a lead in the 3rd. This team is just learning how to finish and as we continue to bring in young promising talent and the team begins to take on that bigger brand of hockey Burke is expressing interest in I think we will start to see a team that will be a true hard-to-play-against Western Conference team. I think the hockey I have seen from the Flames this year has been quite refreshing and I am looking forward to seeing how this year and the off-season play out. GOFLAMESGO!!
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For fun if you add those 17 points to the Flames totals this year it puts us in a three way tie at 48 points with LA and St.louis but sitting 3rd overall with 2 more wins than each, 2 points ahead of the might Sharks. If you add just the 9 points we have given up while leading in the 3rd it puts us at 40 points just 3 points out of 8th overall and fighting for a playoff spot. This team isn't far from being a playoff bubble team and a not as far away from being a contender as we might expect/think.
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12-17-2013, 08:27 PM
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#27
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good game by the flames all in all. Only issue was that there were just too many "flames get it to the line but not out" type plays all game.
Byron was awesome, had multiple good scoring chances. Bouma was a beast, had 2 penalties, but were both due to over aggression on the forecheck, which is better than the hooking/tripping/holding crap. Berra also looked good.
Bruins are the best team in the East, so no shame in the L.
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12-17-2013, 08:32 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
If the Flames score in those first 10 minutes, especially Big Ern's chance, this is a different PGT. I love this team though they never stop trying to give a full 60 minute effort through mistakes and all they always play the next shift with effort. I truly did believe that when Stajan said as much after the Buffalo game. The growing pains of a 1st year rebuild team in management transition and a identity overhaul isn't so bad after all. I mean if you look at it the Flames have had brief moments of malfunctioning and some bad third and second periods during games they should/could have won:
Game 1:
Washington - We had a 3 goal lead twice in this game. We ended up salvaging a point after collapsing in the third.
Game 3:
Vancouver - We had a 3-1 lead heading into the third before surrendering 3 goals in the first 10 minutes. They hacked out a point in the OT loss.
Game 9:
Phoenix - The Flames tied it up early in the third, but lack of focus and a few bad shifts after gaining momentum saw the Flames give up the winning goal just 2:47 seconds later.
Game 10:
Dallas - 3 goals in under a minute in a close 1-1 battle prior to was the difference in a game the Flames were in up until the meltdown.
Game 12:
Toronto - A bad play with seconds left in the first, on the PP to boot is ultimately the true deciding factor in this game though it was not the winning goal. An empty net late puts it away in a game the Flames outshot the Leafs 43 to 22.
Game 20:
Edmonton - A 2-0 lead going into the third evaporates before their eyes, lack of intensity here sees the Flames play away two points.
Game 24:
Chicago - A 2-0 lead with 10 minutes left at home disappears right before the Flames eyes as they find themselves playing complacent and not to their game. Two more points lost in a overall good effort.
Game 28:
Colorado - The flames were handling the game quite nicely until 2 goals in 54 seconds late in the 2nd put them behind the 8 ball going into the third. An early goal in the third finished the Flames off though it ended up being a game winner with a late push from Calgary. 54 seconds a major reason why the Flames loss out on points this game.
Game 30:
Boston - Again, a great game going late into third with lack of ability to net some insurance the Flames once again surrender the 1-0 lead with 2 goals 1 and a half minutes apart late in the third. Playing complacent and not to their style once again bites the flames and they give another 2 points away.
Game 32:
NYR - The Flames jump out to the third period lead but again are have the growing pains of a young, rebuilding team. A surrendered 3 period lead ends up in a point for the Flames in this shoot-out loss.
That's 17 points we have lost in games where we could have won if they had stuck to their game and played out a full 60 minutes and 9 of those points were surrendered with a lead in the 3rd. This team is just learning how to finish and as we continue to bring in young promising talent and the team begins to take on that bigger brand of hockey Burke is expressing interested in I think we will start to see a team that will be a true hard-to-play-against Western Conference team. I think the hockey I have seen from the Flames this year has been quite refreshing and I am looking forward to seeing how this year and the off-season play out. GOFLAMESGO!!
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Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Not that I disagree with any of it, and it's always nice to see/hear some optimism on CP, but this is the difference between good teams and bad teams. Good teams would've found a way to win those games and pick up those 17 extra points. All things considered, with this roster (on paper), it is to be commended how many games they have been competitive in and have had barely any blowouts. I think Hartley has done a good job getting solid efforts from MOST of the team (looking at you Glencross) but a better team finds ways to win those close ones. An above average goalie, one more top 4 D-man and 1 or 2 top 6 forwards and we're a playoff team. Nice thing is, all 4 of those things can (and hopefully will) be solved in house over the next few seasons.
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12-17-2013, 08:42 PM
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#29
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^^^ And that was my overall point of the post. This is a first year rebuild team and it really isn't that far off. 9 points in 3rd period leads is the difference between this team being what we had the past 4 seasons in terms of standings and I feel that the hockey has been better. I am enjoying the rebuild quite a bit and know that those coulda, woulda, shoulda's are going to turn into can wins sooner rather than later. I think this team could be contending for a 6-8 spot next season which is remarkable.
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12-17-2013, 08:57 PM
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#30
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That was an okay loss, if there is such a thing.
Glencross doesn't look great; it seems like he's going through the motions. I'm sure it's tough for him when the games don't matter.
Colborne has had a few offensive chances go completely awry for him. It would be nice to see him start scoring when he and the goalie aren't the only two on the ice.
I think the Flames should stick to a 1/2 goalie system and ride one guy for the rest of the season. Berra has been outplayed. Not by much, but Ramo has clearly been better positionally and technically and should be getting most of the starts.
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12-17-2013, 09:01 PM
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#31
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Look at it this way: Butler is even.
Next time they're in Boston, he'll be +7 by linear extrapolation
I eagerly look forward to that game.
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12-17-2013, 09:04 PM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by kirant
Look at it this way: Butler is even.
Next time they're in Boston, he'll be +7 by linear extrapolation
I eagerly look forward to that game.
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He better not be a Flame the next time they play in Boston.
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12-17-2013, 09:05 PM
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#33
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#1 Goaltender
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this has got to be the sleepiest PGT in a long time. not looking forward to those cold January/February doldrums this season and the next.
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12-17-2013, 09:08 PM
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#34
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Can next season come faster?
I want Gaudreau, Poirier, Sieloff and Dal Colle now.
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would be ecstatic
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12-17-2013, 09:14 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Oof, missed this game, but it seems like I didn't miss much.
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12-17-2013, 09:25 PM
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#36
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damn onions
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
Glencross doesn't look great; it seems like he's going through the motions. I'm sure it's tough for him when the games don't matter.
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thats actually exactly my problem with the coaching staff's double standards... if the games don't matter to him you make them matter to him.
You go up to him and say hey jackass, do you want this to be your last NHL game? No? Then get going.
Done. And then if he doesn't, you healthy scratch his floating malcontent not-give-a-rats-ass ass.
He needs to be sat. Until he works.
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12-17-2013, 09:26 PM
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#37
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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger
Oof, missed this game, but it seems like I didn't miss much.
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You didn't. Good first period and decent effort throughout but Boston outclassed our team. Meh, pretty dull game.
Players were probably worried about the impending snowstorm.
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12-17-2013, 09:29 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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12-17-2013, 09:31 PM
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#39
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Gio should'e let Colborne take the honorary draw.
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12-17-2013, 09:40 PM
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#40
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If this is what the 'bad games' look like this year, I can live with that.
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