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Old 12-15-2013, 12:46 PM   #241
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Wes Gilbertson takes a look at the names he has been hearing on the rumor mill:
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/12/14...e-in-gm-search

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Jim Benning, Boston Bruins

Paul Fenton, Nashville Predators

Michael Futa, Los Angeles Kings

Claude Loiselle, Toronto Maple Leafs

Brad Treliving, Phoenix Coyotes
Read the article for more info on each one.
Really, really like that list.

My least favourite would be Loiselle, but any other would be a huge win for the organization IMO.

Adding Burke, then Fenton, Benning, or Futa, would be a HUGE boost for the Flames' legitimacy, depth, and hockey acumen.
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Old 12-16-2013, 05:34 PM   #242
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Good bet it's Paul Fenton.
Burke hunting Fenton?

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Old 12-16-2013, 05:46 PM   #243
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I'm not sure Darcy Regier is a bad idea. I know people don't want re-treads and all but he makes some excellent trades, might be too patient for Burke though.
I dunno.. a ton of small players have come through Buffalo - Byron, Gerbe and Ennis are three of the smallest players in the league and all came up with Buffalo.
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I think Regier seemed to change his stance on building a small and skilled team. Ever since that notorious Lucic incident, he seemed intent on building a more bruising team, and now look at Buffalo's defensive prospects.

I would think Regier perfect fits with Burke's vision. Not saying he is the best candidate, but considering the friendship and vision...
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I dunno.. a ton of small players have come through Buffalo - Byron, Gerbe and Ennis are three of the smallest players in the league and all came up with Buffalo.
looking at the Sabres' last 3 drafts, there weren't a lot of small choices though. The only really small player was this year's 7th round pick Eric Locke, and taking a chance on a small guy at that point in the draft isn't a huge risk. Some others like Hurley, Armia and Nelson have filling out to do and Compher and Possler aren't exactly huge, but overall I don't see a lot of small players.

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D Rasmus Ristolainen - Height 6.04 -- Weight 219
D Nikita Zadorov - Height 6.05 -- Weight 221
F J.T. Compher - Height 5.11 -- Weight 184
F Connor Hurley - Height 6.01 -- Weight 174
F Justin Bailey - Height 6.03 -- Weight 186
F Nick Baptiste - Height 6.01 -- Weight 189
G Cal Petersen - Height 6.01 -- Weight 175
F Gustav Possler - Height 5.11 -- Weight 167
D Anthony Florentino - Height 6.00 -- Weight 209
F Sean Malone - Height 5.11 -- Weight 183
F Eric Locke - Height 5.08 -- Weight 182

2012
F Mikhail Grigorenko - Height 6.03 -- Weight 200
F Zemgus Girgensons - Height 6.02 -- Weight 194
D Jake McCabe - Height 6.01 -- Weight 205
F Justin Kea - Height 6.04 -- Weight 201
F Logan Nelson - Height 6.01 -- Weight 178
G Linus Ullmark - Height 6.03 -- Weight 198
D Brady Austin - Height 6.04 -- Weight 225
F Judd Peterson - Height 6.00 -- Weight 184

2011
F Joel Armia - Height 6.03 -- Weight 187
F Daniel Catenacci - Height 5.10 -- Weight 191
F Colin Jacobs - Height 6.01 -- Weight 215
D Alex Lepkowski - Height 6.04 -- Weight 204
G Nathan Lieuwen - Height 6.05 -- Weight 192
F Brad Navin - Height 6.03 -- Weight 200
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5 first round picks in the last three years and all of them are European.

Not trying to be a Euro-hater, but ALL of them?

That's not how you build a team IMO. And it isn't how you acquire truculence either.
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true. Three of them were already playing in NA at the time of the draft though, so I doubt the Sabres thought too much about it
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well they should have
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via Reddit

I'm sure someone has posted this already but wth, you don't see a Flames article in main stream sports blogs very often.

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http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2013/12...dates-for.html
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I'm sure someone has posted this already but wth, you don't see a Flames article in main stream sports blogs very often.

enjoy

http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2013/12...dates-for.html
Fan-fricking-tastic. Thank you.

My favourite:

"Burke: And you couldn't just follow the giant "exit" signs painted in the hallways because…

Feaster: I'm not very good at reading the writing on the wall.

Burke: Apparently not."

Also love the Oilers' reset!
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Jim Benning please. Comes from a great hockey family.
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5 first round picks in the last three years and all of them are European.

Not trying to be a Euro-hater, but ALL of them?

That's not how you build a team IMO. And it isn't how you acquire truculence either.
Zadorov can lay some guys out. He is truculent. Ristolainen doesn't play a soft game either.

I think Burke would be in favour of grabbing defensemen like those. I think he'd be pretty happy with the Sabres draft last year.

Your stereotype about Euro's might be appropriate if these guys were the smaller, skilled, soft type of player that fits the stereotype. But Zadorov in particular plays a very hard, mean game that is very North American like. Ristolainen is big and can play physical as well.

Personally I really liked the Sabres draft. We needed a centre last year. But imagine us having an upcoming draft like the Sabres just did. Adding two potential top four defensemen with massive size while still having skill and mobility. That would really fill some holes for us.

Gonna be interesting to see what type of players are available this year. We still need top 4 defensemen with size and strength. We still need powerforwards. We'll take any elite centres even.
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I don't disagree with any of those players individually.

I disagree with spending 5 consecutive 1st round picks on Euros. You have to be conscious of your own relative situation.
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Zadorov can lay some guys out. He is truculent. Ristolainen doesn't play a soft game either.

I think Burke would be in favour of grabbing defensemen like those. I think he'd be pretty happy with the Sabres draft last year.

Your stereotype about Euro's might be appropriate if these guys were the smaller, skilled, soft type of player that fits the stereotype. But Zadorov in particular plays a very hard, mean game that is very North American like. Ristolainen is big and can play physical as well.

Personally I really liked the Sabres draft. We needed a centre last year. But imagine us having an upcoming draft like the Sabres just did. Adding two potential top four defensemen with massive size while still having skill and mobility. That would really fill some holes for us.

Gonna be interesting to see what type of players are available this year. We still need top 4 defensemen with size and strength. We still need powerforwards. We'll take any elite centres even.

Nick Ritchie may be available where we pick, and seems like the type of player that's being looked for. Jake Virtanen too. Fleury is a good size with some offensive upside. Jack Glover too.
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I don't disagree with any of those players individually.

I disagree with spending 5 consecutive 1st round picks on Euros. You have to be conscious of your own relative situation.
God I wish there was a MoscowPuck where they talk about the NHL flight risk, why you shouldn't draft 5 Canadians consecutively in 1st round picks and how Jokerit has to overpay UFAs because it's too cold. BPA is BPA regardless of where they are from, and worst case Ontario, even if they all do turn out to be the same type of player (unlikely) they still have value to another team who does not possess such a player.

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I don't disagree with any of those players individually.

I disagree with spending 5 consecutive 1st round picks on Euros. You have to be conscious of your own relative situation.
What is their relative situation that they shouldn't be picking Europeans? Just because they drafted 5 in the first round doesn't mean the whole team is going to be European. I seem to recall several teams that won the cup with 5+ Europeans.
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God I wish there was a MoscowPuck where they talk about the NHL flight risk, why you shouldn't draft 5 Canadians consecutively in 1st round picks and how Jokerit has to overpay UFAs because it's too cold. BPA is BPA regardless of where they are from, and worst case Ontario, even if they all do turn out to be the same type of player (unlikely) they still have value to another team who does not possess such a player.

1) there isn't an NHL flight risk for Canadians, and
2) BPA is BPA but to build a cup winner, I want at least 15 NAs.

If you feel differently, that is your opinion and that is fine
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What is their relative situation that they shouldn't be picking Europeans? Just because they drafted 5 in the first round doesn't mean the whole team is going to be European. I seem to recall several teams that won the cup with 5+ Europeans.
Their situation is that they are in a rebuild and have a bunch of high-quality first round picks. They are essentially drafting their new core.

If I were GM, I wouldn't be doing that with all Europeans.

Teams have won the cup with 5+ Europeans, but the only team ever to win the cup with a largely European core was the Red Wings. And no team is ever going to be able to acquire half of the Red Army team, all at once, ever again.
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BPA is BPA but to build a cup winner, I want something else than BPA.
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