Jay Feaster History

[return to the red]

traded Robyn Regehr, Ales Kotalik and a 2012 2nd Round Pick (#44, Jake McCabe) in exchange for Chris Butler and Paul Byron

#### me, I had put this one into the darkest part of my memory because it was THAT bad

[saillias]

I remember a Feaster quote rationalizing the returns he got on trades... something to the effect of,

"It's not about ripping the other guy off. It's about both sides getting something they want." Dear lord it was a lame excuse.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Not even close to the worst GM...Darryl Sutter was hands down the worst GM in Flames history.

Bull####. We're talking about a team that didn't make the playoffs 7 years prior to Sutter becoming GM. He almost immediately trades for a franchise player at the cost of a 2nd round pick and goes to the Cup finals (where they should have won) his first year. It wasn't until 7 years after becoming GM that the Flames missed the playoffs under Sutter. In no shape or form would that be consider the worst GM of any team much less the Calgary Flames.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Not really.

One of the defining characteristics of the Jay Feaster regime is that he really had a difficult time understanding the value of assets. Frequently assets were held on for too long, signed to questionable extensions or they were misused.

This was an example of an asset he was forced to deal, but would not have made the deal under optimal circumstances.

Disagree. Nobody (including Feaster) would have made that deal under optimal circumstances. At the time, Erixon was considered a draft pick that had blossomed into a blue-chip prospect that many teams covetted. If he went back into the draft he probably would have gone to another team in the first round. But Feaster got very good return for an asset that, through no fault of his own, he was going to lose within a day or two with zero return.

[vilzeh]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Para-phrasing

"The Jankowski pick will be looked back upon in 10 years as the best pick of this draft"
"We just acquired the 2 best goalies who are not currently in the NHL"
"We managed to draft 3 guys who we had in our top 13"

That's absurd. He flat out lied to everyone. I can think of many better goaltenders than Rämö & Berra from Europe.

[Joborule]

His legacy to me will be the Regehr trade, Iggy trade (the drama around it), his clamour about finding the "best players outside NHL," and most importantly, the ROR fiasco. That last one was the nail in the coffin. He almost screwed the Flames royally with that inexcusable blunder.

He did do some good though in bringing more focus to NCAA scouting and getting some prospects within our system. So with the bad, was some good, but not enough to justify him being a GM for franchise trying to be back into the competitive realm.

[Rifleman]

Every time I see Chris Butler's name up on that summary, it makes me want to punch a baby.

[Stanley]

Yea, when you look at the Regehr trade, the way the Iggy trade went down (not to mention the return), even the Bouwmeester trade, and of course the ROR fiasco and Jankowski pick, I'm glad this move was done. Feaster was a likeable guy and he unloaded bad contracts and got us cap flexibility, but I agree with Burke; we need much better return on our trades, we need to hit a home run in our drafting, and we need to get bigger and tougher.

And man I like his direct no-nonsense approach, it's so refreshing compared to the lawyer jargon from Feaster.

Finally we can get some credibility around the league...

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Not really.

One of the defining characteristics of the Jay Feaster regime is that he really had a difficult time understanding the value of assets. Frequently assets were held on for too long, signed to questionable extensions or they were misused.

This was an example of an asset he was forced to deal, but would not have made the deal under optimal circumstances.

So, he made the deal when he was forced to, but if not forced he wouldn't have made the deal.

This sounds quite reasonable to me, what's your issue with it? Would you have wanted him making the deal if he didn't have to?

[moon]

Way too much gets made of the situation he was left with and the ownership meddling.

Also, when the best moves that he can be credited with are bringing in 4th liners and bottom pairing defensemen I think it shows what kind of GM he was.

The Cammy for Bourque deal was meh grump for meh grump with the other pieces looking at best equal at worst we got hosed in the 2nd for Ramo part.

The Tanguay deal we give up the two best players and get back two stiffs. Tanguay being a malcontent or not that is not a good deal at all.

I think one of the most annoying things about Feaster was all the bluster that he created by making way too many statements/promises/catch phrases. The intellectual honesty, best player not in the NHL, fool me once etc. Feaster was the master of over promising underdelivering and when you are a crappy GM that makes things look much, much worse.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Not even close to the worst GM...Darryl Sutter was hands down the worst GM in Flames history.

Bringing in Kipper puts him ahead of Feaster, Risebrough and Button all on its own.

Throw in his other moves and he is close to the top, likely number 2 behind Fletcher.

[moon]

Originally Posted by the2bears

So, he made the deal when he was forced to, but if not forced he wouldn't have made the deal.

This sounds quite reasonable to me, what's your issue with it? Would you have wanted him making the deal if he didn't have to?

I assume the issue was that it wasn't that Feaster evaluated the situation and figured out a way to improve the team. He was forced to make a deal with a specific team and threw some crap against the wall hoping it would stick.

[Yoho]

Glad he's gone, but he was painted into a corner to start his tenure by a wide margin. This team was a mess with contract, term, NTC, and veterans.

[GGG]

To me the ROR deal is not a black mark because there was no way the NHL was going to make pass through waivers.

I think Feasters record was acceptable, Given his mandate to compete at all costs. However he certainly didnt instill confidence in the future. Overall though he is not even close to the worst. Pretty much middle of the pack

[Phanuthier]

I'd say Feaster is the worst GM in Flames history, slightly below Craig Button. Darryl might have handicapped us with the Dion/Olli trades (Hagman and Kotalik contracts; wasted assets) but Feaster also handicapped us with Babchuk (NTC), Wideman (NMC), Tanguay (modified NTC, then asks for trade), Sarich (NTC to 2014)...... and for all of that, Darryl got us 7 playoff apperances and one Stanley Cup finals....

Prospects/drafting...... I'll see it when I believe it. The 3 home grown prospects/players that are performing right now are Brodie (Darryl pick), Giordano (Darryl signing), Monohan (Feaster pick).

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Not really.

One of the defining characteristics of the Jay Feaster regime is that he really had a difficult time understanding the value of assets. Frequently assets were held on for too long, signed to questionable extensions or they were misused.

This was an example of an asset he was forced to deal, but would not have made the deal under optimal circumstances.

This is ridiculous. This trade had nothing to do with understanding the value of assets.

The Flames organization tried very hard to sign Erixon. He led them on and then screwed them (yes them, as it wasn't just Feaster - he inherited the problem).

Erixon screwed them and Feaster made the most of the situation.

Not a huge trade in the grand scheme of things, but by no means a black mark on his record in any way, shape or form.

To attempt to criticize Feaster for the Erixon situation simply ignores the facts and screams of bias.

[Tinordi]

Sutter drove this team into the ground. He caught lightning in a bottle with Kiprusoff, good move but also very lucky and inherited the best player in the league at the time. Since the high water mark of his first season each team successively was worse than the year before it. By the time Sutter was finally put down all that was left was a smoldering pile of embers. Incredibly overrated GM by Flames fans.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by GGG

To me the ROR deal is not a black mark because there was no way the NHL was going to make pass through waivers.

Disagree, I believe the player would have been subject to Waivers. Then the Flames would most likely challenge the rule and it would have been nasty.

This is a black mark as the Flames miss understood the Contract.

[Tinordi]

The ROR thing also had the whiff of King's involvement as well and the desperation to get Iginla and friends back into the playoffs.

[Badgers Nose]

We basically gave Fucale for Ramo?

Fucale was/is a pretty highly touted prospect was/is he not?

That trade hurts now. How the heck did MTL get a pick form us considering the PITA Cammi was for them?