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Old 12-12-2013, 12:25 PM   #701
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Sources say Dallas has granted Calgary permission to speak with Joe Nieuwendyk. #TSN
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Interesting to see some of the speculation coming out, even against what Burke just said. Is there anyway that someone can sticky the quotes from Burke on the Fan after the presser, because it might quiet some of the weird speculation.

That being said, I don't a 100% believe what Burke says is what he's going to do, but from what he said I don't think there's reason to worry about Sven or Gadureau being traded anytime soon. I think Backlund may be heading out, but at the same time after a rough start Backlund seems to be turning it around into the mold that Burke is looking for.

I think you can all but guarantee that Stajan, Cammalerri, Butler, Bouma and one of Ramo/Berra is gone by the end of the season. I can see Knight and Ferland up with the big club much sooner.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:26 PM   #703
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Let's get real here for a second. Do you think franchise players like Iginla grow on trees? Franchise players aren't always found in the top 3 picks. Some of the best players in the league have been drafted 45+ overall. Tanking for picks isn't the answer (Edmonton says hi). Drafting intelligently is more important than getting 1st overalls.
Yeah but but NHL 14 . . .
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Why are people making a big deal over the holiday freeze thing. Players are different than a GM/coach. The Players have to go to another city, find housing, make the decision to move the family now or later or never or whatever. Tough thing to do at holiday time.

GMs/coaches get to go home, kick their feet up, crack open a cold beer and collect their pay cheques while they contemplate what went wrong and what the next steps are for them. It is a completely different situation.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:26 PM   #705
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Fan 960 guys Peter, Roger, etc talking about what they heard over the league that he wasn't thought of highly. Sounds like they heard a lot of stuff over the time and kept it quiet and now he's gone are letting some of the information out. They just said after the 2012 draft he was given less influence on the 2013 draft.

I said earlier that I thought he was a smoke and mirrors guy that talked big but didn't follow through with his words.

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Old 12-12-2013, 12:26 PM   #706
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I think the Mark Jankowski pick might be the dumbest draft pick the Flames ever make.

Looking at this progress this year (points) he is on pace to match last years production.
Yes. Right now, at this moment, is the exact moment we will know Jankowski's true potential.
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Sounds like Wisebrod was not well liked around the league.
Yeah, that was interesting from Millions. Too bad it was cryptic.
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Why are people making a big deal over the holiday freeze thing. Players are different than a GM/coach. The Players have to go to another city, find housing, make the decision to move the family now or later or never or whatever. Tough thing to do at holiday time.

GMs/coaches get to go home, kick their feet up, crack open a cold beer and collect their pay cheques while they contemplate what went wrong and what the next steps are for them. It is a completely different situation.
no kidding, fired coaches/GMs have more time with the family and can go wherever the heck they want
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:28 PM   #709
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Molberg saying 2013 draft more Button's draft, "a whole lot less say" from Weisbrod compared to the 2012 draft.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:29 PM   #710
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Burke tells the Big Show "Klimchuk's going to play, and Poirier's going to play." #Flames

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Burke mentions he went to the effort of reaching out to John Gaudreau today to let him know the team is still high on him. #Flames
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As for John Weisbrod: mysterious. Hardly saw him, rarely spoke to him. Hard to evaluate his work given we never knew for certain what he did
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Molberg saying 2013 draft more Button's draft, "a whole lot less say" from Weisbrod compared to the 2012 draft.
Looks like owners or other management didn't like the Jankowski pick.
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Millions just said Nieuwendyk is not happening in Calgary.
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Molberg saying 2013 draft more Button's draft, "a whole lot less say" from Weisbrod compared to the 2012 draft.
Molberg isn't on, that was Leslie.

edit: oh weird, Leslie said it on the radio as Molberg was tweeting it.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #715
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This is what I take:

1) Jankowski isn't the diamond in the rough that has been trumpeted.
2) The team wants to pull the trigger on some moves that are out there from teams up against the cap, but Feaster is waiting.
3) The return on Boumeester was insufficient
4) The handling of the Iginla trade was improper
5) The team is too soft and he doesn't like it

I'm still in shock with this.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

When ever you bring in someone from outside the organization to "oversee" an existing person in your organization, it can't go well.

I am pretty sure Burke will bring in his guy. Probably someone like Nonis who has the same philosophical views as Burke.

He turned Vancouver around, he turned Anaheim into champions (yes, Murray had a big hand too..), and he turned the Maple Leafs around.

He will do the same here in Calgary.

This team will get bigger, stronger, and harder to play against.

Oh, and Jonas Hill will be a Flame on July 1st.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #716
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Sure, let's go all old boys club on this.
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Yes. Right now, at this moment, is the exact moment we will know Jankowski's true potential.
What I am saying is that tactically, many teams alluded to the fact he was projected to go late in the 2nd round or even 3rd round.
The chances of him being around for the Flames 2nd pick were probable.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #718
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Looks like owners or other management didn't like the Jankowski pick.
In fairness, it's really hard for anyone to like that pick at this point.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:31 PM   #719
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Molberg isn't on, that was Leslie.

edit: oh weird, Leslie said it on the radio as Molberg was tweeting it.
Maybe i'm taking crazy pills, but that's Molberg talking right now about Paul Fenton isn't it?
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:32 PM   #720
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Fan 960 guys Peter, Roger, etc talking about what they heard over the league that he wasn't thought of highly. Sounds like they heard a lot of stuff over the time and kept it quiet and now he's gone are letting some of the information out. They just said after the 2012 draft he was given less influence on the 2013 draft.

I said earlier that I thought he was a smoke and mirrors guy that talked big but didn't follow through with his words.
Sure Jankowski maybe have been the reach but 2012 has netted us Gilles who could arguably be a franchise goalie with a 3rd round pick.
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