12-12-2013, 11:19 AM
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#21
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by wooohooo
Kane for Sven + Backlund + Draft picks?
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Again, if Kane doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, he doesn't want to be in Calgary.
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12-12-2013, 11:19 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wooohooo
Kane for Sven + Backlund + Draft picks?
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I wouldn't be shocked if the Flames went after Kane
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12-12-2013, 11:21 AM
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#23
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Again, if Kane doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, he doesn't want to be in Calgary.
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He's rumored to have disputes with the coaching team. Do you have information I don't?
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12-12-2013, 11:24 AM
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#24
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In the Sin Bin
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Read OP. Kane's problems appear to run far, far deeper than the coach. Also, it's pretty much been rumoured since the Thrashers relocated that Kane was not a good fit for a city like Winnipeg. Calgary, like it or not, is not much better in the NHL context.
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12-12-2013, 11:31 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Brian Burke wants to make a trade for Evander Kane Feaster and Weisbrod disaggreed with him in what it would cost to bring him to Calgary so he fired both of them.Kane to Calgary for 2 1sts just like Kessel to Toronto
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12-12-2013, 11:32 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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Iggy 2.0, get him for a 2016 first rd pick
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12-12-2013, 11:33 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Read OP. Kane's problems appear to run far, far deeper than the coach. Also, it's pretty much been rumoured since the Thrashers relocated that Kane was not a good fit for a city like Winnipeg. Calgary, like it or not, is not much better in the NHL context.
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There have been tons of rumors that Kane has left local restaurants, without paying his bills. He also stated publicly that he was being benched by Noel and the coaching staff, when Noel had just finished telling the media he was not cleared by team doctors to play. I've also seen heated arguments been Noel and Kane on the bench on at least a couple of occasions.
The fact that Ladd, the team captain, appeared to single out Kane for not being a team player, speaks volumes.
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12-12-2013, 11:33 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare
Brian Burke wants to make a trade for Evander Kane Feaster and Weisbrod disaggreed with him in what it would cost to bring him to Calgary so he fired both of them.Kane to Calgary for 2 1sts just like Kessel to Toronto
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If that was/is true... that would be sad. Kessel is far superior to Kane.
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12-12-2013, 11:38 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wooohooo
Kane for Sven + Backlund + Draft picks?
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Kane for Sven, Backlund and a "9th round pick". If Burke got involved and worked his magic it would be
Kane and a 2nd for Backlund and Butler
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12-12-2013, 11:38 AM
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Realtor®
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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E Kane has many similarities to P Kane - I would gladly take him, Hartley/Burke are more than capable of giving him a adjustment.
I like Sven but if we could trade this years first + Sven - take it!
As for "If Evander doesnt want to be in the peg he doesnt want to be in Calgary". I disagree... have you been to the peg? A young kid would love it in this city. The real test is if management can keep him on the right path between partying and playing on the ice.
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12-12-2013, 11:51 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Realtor 1
As for "If Evander doesnt want to be in the peg he doesnt want to be in Calgary". I disagree... have you been to the peg? A young kid would love it in this city. The real test is if management can keep him on the right path between partying and playing on the ice.
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I agree.
Winnipeg is home, but Calgary is the best city in the world. anyone not willing to play here is insane. Edmonton, on the other hand, is depressing and bland, and who wants to play for a team that management has driven into the ground?
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12-12-2013, 11:51 AM
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#32
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Realtor 1
E Kane has many similarities to P Kane - I would gladly take him, Hartley/Burke are more than capable of giving him a adjustment.
I like Sven but if we could trade this years first + Sven - take it!
As for "If Evander doesnt want to be in the peg he doesnt want to be in Calgary". I disagree... have you been to the peg? A young kid would love it in this city. The real test is if management can keep him on the right path between partying and playing on the ice.
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Calgary is boring he's better off going to Van or Montréal if he's looking to party.
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12-12-2013, 12:01 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Psytic
Calgary is boring he's better off going to Van or Montréal if he's looking to party.
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Unfortunately I agree with this.
We all think Calgary is great, but if you really want a 'city' experience with great nightlife and for that 'big city' culture.... you go to New York / Los Angeles / Toronto / Montreal / Vancouver / Chicago / Boston / Dallas first.
We're pretty far down the list if you aren't from Calgary or southern Alberta. It sucks, but it's the truth.
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12-12-2013, 12:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
Calgary is boring he's better off going to Van or Montréal if he's looking to party.
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Vancouver? To party?! Vancouver isn't even in the same conversation as Montreal with respect to nightlife (albeit neither is Calgary of course.)
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12-12-2013, 12:05 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
Unfortunately I agree with this.
We all think Calgary is great, but if you really want a 'city' experience with great nightlife and for that 'big city' culture.... you go to New York / Los Angeles / Toronto / Montreal / Vancouver / Chicago / Boston / Dallas first.
We're pretty far down the list if you aren't from Calgary or southern Alberta. It sucks, but it's the truth.
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Two of these things are not like the others...
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12-12-2013, 12:08 PM
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#36
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In the Sin Bin
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Dallas is actually one of the markets that makes the most sense. Kane strikes me as the type of player who would prefer a low pressure market. Plus, it's a short hop to Vegas from Dallas.
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12-12-2013, 12:14 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Makarov
Two of these things are not like the others...
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Both are very cosmopolitan and as large metropolitan centres, are both really fun to be in.
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12-12-2013, 12:25 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
Both are very cosmopolitan and as large metropolitan centres, are both really fun to be in.
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I'm not sure how one measures "cosmopolitanism", but by at least one measure, Calgary is more cosmopolitan than Dallas:
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In addition, recent data showed that 26.5% of Dallas' population and 17% of residents in the Metroplex as a whole were foreign-born.[127][128]
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SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas#Demographics
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The foreign-born population made up almost one-quarter (23.6%) of Calgary's population in 2006, up from 20.9% in 2001.
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SOURCE: http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-re...57/p28-eng.cfm
NOTE: That data is nearly ten years old, and a conservative estimate would likely put Calgary at closer to 27-28% foreign-born residents now.
With respect to "large metropolitan centres", I'm not sure how Vancouver qualifies. Vancouver is 23rd largest in North America, grouped with Tampa, Denver, and Minneapolis.
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12-12-2013, 12:38 PM
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#39
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
Calgary is boring he's better off going to Van or Montréal if he's looking to party.
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Having lived in both cities Calgary is more fun than Vancouver to party in. Vancouver sucks at night. Whistler's fun if you can avoid catching the clap.
To be fair it might be a different story if you have millions of dollars.
EDIT: I have never been to Dallas but have several good friends in Houston (real shocker in this city), all of whom say that Dallas sucks and that Austin is the place to be.
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12-12-2013, 12:44 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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To be realistic about the trade, what does Winnipeg actually want back? They have Little for 5 years, so that's one top 6 centre (ideally the #2 guy). They have Mark Scheifle, who you'd have to assume they expect to be a top 6 centre within that 5 year period as well. So if they're trading for a #1C, one of those guys has to either go with Kane or go somewhere else.
Realistically they need a tendy and perhaps a good defensive D, but those aren't really pieces you should be trading Kane for.
Unless it's Kane + for an offensive upgrade for the #1 line, dealing him makes little sense to me.
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