Best place to return something withou a receipt

[Flames_Gimp]

probably less hassle to just kijiji it and get cash instead of a gift card.

[Voodooman]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Walmart loses nothing in this exchange as they give store credit. Who gets hurt?

Did you sleep through ECON 201 in university? Where does the stuff that he buys with the store credit come from, Narnia? Did Walmart not have to pay for those goods?

I'm sorry, but that comment is too much.

[undercoverbrother]

The OP really is a modern day Robin Hood

[BigNumbers]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

I did this with that shop.ca deal. Got the rebates, discounts, paypal money bought 4 games for around $100 and returned them all to Wal-Mart for store credit $260.

If they don't like it change your policy.

I wouldn't be surprised if the mods here ban people for admitting to theft and bragging about it ...

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Walmart loses nothing in this exchange as they give store credit. Who gets hurt?

You clearly have no clue how retail works.

Lets say the cost on the DVD set is $20 to both Amazon and Walmart.

OP buys them from Amazon for $40, and choses he doesn't want them. Amazon has made $20.

Walmart price on them is $50, and the OP lies that he bought them at Walmart (That is the only way they will take it back, and is a criminal act.) Walmart now gives him a $50 store credit. The OP has now stolen, $30 from Walmart. Walmart just paid $50 for something they can buy for $20 from the distributor.

Until the OP uses his store credit for an item that has a $30 profit margin in the Walmart, they will not break even. If the item bought with the credit has a $20 margin, they are still $10 in the hole. Regardless of if they do break even or not, you have still stolen $30 from them by lying, and neglected them of the $30 they would have made on the original purchase.

Love or hate Walmart, this is 100% fraud, and 100% criminal. There is no debating that. It is no different than you sticking your hand in the till when the cashier turns her back, and taking $30. If you are OK committing crimes to make a piddly $20 or $30 bucks, fill you boots. I pity someone if they have to resort to tactics like that to make ends meet... it is truly pathetic. But no matter how you might internally justify it, in your mind, you are no different than a petty shoplifter, or someone stealing car stereos at 3 am.

Again, I find a ton of irony in your statements, no different than the guy who called out puckluck2 for being an insurance fraudster... this community rallied behind and offered assistance to you when you were being robbed, yet you think it is perfectly OK to do the robbing, as long as the victim is a big corporate bad guy with bottomless pockets.

Theft is theft, and thieves are thieves.

[Brannigans Law]

I guess no one here has downloaded an mp3? I don't think what the OP did was tremendously cool... but the outrage here is somewhat laughable. Did the OP kill someone in a DUI or did he scam a company that makes so much profit they wouldn't notice it if he did it a thousand times a year? Good lord some folks here need to drink less coffee.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

I guess no one here has downloaded an mp3? I don't think what the OP did was tremendously cool... but the outrage here is somewhat laughable. Did the OP kill someone in a DUI or did he scam a company that makes so much profit they wouldn't notice it if he did it a thousand times a year? Good lord some folks here need to drink less coffee.

What difference does this make? It is a reflection of character. If you'll rip off Walmart, you'll rip off anyone. And it isn't outrage on my part, it is pity, and second hand shame I feel for someone that will go to criminal lengths to save a buck.

If Bill Gates was walking down the street, is it ok to pick pocket his wallet that has $50 in it? He's not gonna miss 50 bucks.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Voodooman

I totally disagree on the mom&pop vs. big box argument. How does the size of the store make this right?

It's not mom&pop vs. big box. It's mom&pop vs. Walmart.

They are unethical, they rip people off and break the law themselves. If a crook is gonna rob the crooks, too bad.

[Flames_Gimp]

lol comparing this to a b&e, and stealing car stereos? laughable

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

lol comparing this to a b&e, and stealing car stereos? laughable

No matter how hard you try and justify it, it is still stealing.

[Voodooman]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

It's not mom&pop vs. big box. It's mom&pop vs. Walmart.

They are unethical, they rip people off and break the law themselves. If a crook is gonna rob the crooks, too bad.

So stealing is OK, so long as you don't like the victim?

Your statement is ill informed, and unbelievably stupid. They're the world's largest retailer, some people swear by them, others hate them, but unethical and criminal? Better dial back the rhetoric there son. I'm certainly no fan of Walmart, so I choose not to shop there. I don't "get even" by committing fraudulent, borderline criminal, activities.

I really need to get out of this thread. I feel like I'm getting close to that old line about arguing with idiots who'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Voodooman

So stealing is OK, so long as you don't like the victim?

Your statement is ill informed, and unbelievably stupid. They're the world's largest retailer, some people swear by them, others hate them, but unethical and criminal? Better dial back the rhetoric there son. I'm certainly no fan of Walmart, so I choose not to shop there. I don't "get even" by committing fraudulent, borderline criminal, activities.

I really need to get out of this thread. I feel like I'm getting close to that old line about arguing with idiots who'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Dial back the rhetoric, son? Dial up the google, dad.

In the last year they've been fined 82 million bucks for environmental crimes, and they are currently being investigated for corruption, bribery, and labor infractions.

None of this is unethical or criminal, I guess.

We're not all as smart as you, I'll admit that. It takes a special kind of genius to miss this stuff.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by pylon

this community rallied behind and offered assistance to you when you were being robbed, yet you think it is perfectly OK to do the robbing, as long as the victim is a big corporate bad guy with bottomless pockets.

low blow comparing my B&E situation to a guy making a return at walmart imo.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

low blow comparing my B&E situation to a guy making a return at walmart imo.

I would be interested to know Raekwon's position on insurance fraud

[Mr.Coffee]

the argument that because Walmart may be unethical and criminal in their own right somehow validates theft and / or unethical behaviour in their stores seems weird to me.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Dial back the rhetoric, son? Dial up the google, dad.

In the last year they've been fined 82 million bucks for environmental crimes, and they are currently being investigated for corruption, bribery, and labor infractions.

None of this is unethical or criminal, I guess.

We're not all as smart as you, I'll admit that. It takes a special kind of genius to miss this stuff.

So that still justifies ripping them off?

I need to get gas tonight. I am sure Shell has damaged the environment too. I just gonna gas and dash. Thanks for easing my conscience.

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

lol comparing this to a b&e, and stealing car stereos? laughable

Originally Posted by pylon

No matter how hard you try and justify it, it is still stealing.

you cant possibly be serious? you dont see a difference between making an unethical return to walmart and lying about where you bought it and smashing innto someones car and stealing their deck? i like your posts pylon i really do, but you really need to dial down the intensity here. your position isn't reasonable or logical. context is important and yes, shades of gray exist here.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

you cant possibly be serious? you dont see a difference between making an unethical return to walmart and lying about where you bought it and smashing innto someones car and stealing their deck? i like your posts pylon i really do, but you really need to dial down the intensity here. your position isn't reasonable or logical. context is important and yes, shades of gray exist here.

Dislike of theft and thieves is extremely reasonable, unless you are a thief.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

you cant possibly be serious? you dont see a difference between making an unethical return to walmart and lying about where you bought it and smashing innto someones car and stealing their deck? i like your posts pylon i really do, but you really need to dial down the intensity here. your position isn't reasonable or logical. context is important and yes, shades of gray exist here.

Both crimes will result in a criminal record if caught. Both crimes are morally wrong. And both crimes have a victim.

If you were caught for either, it is going to look just as bad on your record.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

I guess no one here has downloaded an mp3? I don't think what the OP did was tremendously cool... but the outrage here is somewhat laughable. Did the OP kill someone in a DUI or did he scam a company that makes so much profit they wouldn't notice it if he did it a thousand times a year? Good lord some folks here need to drink less coffee.

I absolutely hate when people use mp3s as a way to justify stealing. I also hate when they use an absolute extreme case like a DUI to justify something totally unrelated.

Doesn't matter where it lands on the moral scale, it is still wrong