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Old 12-06-2013, 12:28 PM   #1621
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I don't really care who wins the World Cup as Long as it's not korea
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:33 PM   #1622
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I don't really care who wins the World Cup as Long as it's not korea
........?

That would require a miracle.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:37 PM   #1623
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As expected with the usual shadiness and string pulling from certain factions within FIFA, France avoids the tougher draw that they should've had if FIFA followed its own rules and precedent.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:46 PM   #1624
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As expected with the usual shadiness and string pulling from certain factions within FIFA, France avoids the tougher draw that they should've had if FIFA followed its own rules and precedent.
I dont know, thats reaching a bit, I mean, France barely, barely qualified.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:55 PM   #1625
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I don't expect France to advance out of that group, and its a weak group.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:01 PM   #1626
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As expected with the usual shadiness and string pulling from certain factions within FIFA, France avoids the tougher draw that they should've had if FIFA followed its own rules and precedent.
Wait, what?!
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:37 PM   #1627
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Wait what?

None of those teams are miles ahead of Germany? What are you smoking?

Anyways, these groups are pretty dumb. Seems like most of the good teams got grouped together and most of the minnows are together.
As Locke pointed out I meant the quality of the group

in the other two groups a team that is considered in the top 16 in the world is going to miss out. Two of England, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Chile, Uruguay wont make the knockout stages

In Group G, Germany and Portugal would be considered there, the US and Ghana would not

US and Ghana not making the KO stages won't be big news, it would be in the 6 I listed above
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Historically, European sides and especially Northern European sides don't do well outside of Europe because of the weather. I think some African sides might suprise us because they deal better with the heat and humidity.

I think Uraguay could go a long way with a Suarez in his prime and so would Argentina and Brazil. 2002 in Asia, the European players complained a lot about the heat and there were a lot of upsets that WC. This WC might be full of suprises as well which will be fun to watch.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:14 PM   #1629
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Historically, European sides and especially Northern European sides don't do well outside of Europe because of the weather. I think some African sides might suprise us because they deal better with the heat and humidity.

I think Uraguay could go a long way with a Suarez in his prime and so would Argentina and Brazil. 2002 in Asia, the European players complained a lot about the heat and there were a lot of upsets that WC. This WC might be full of suprises as well which will be fun to watch.
People know the score in Brazil. And in South America its usually the humidity and the altitude that affect most players. But they also know that going in.

As for Uruguay, they have been godawful, but if they get their crap together they can be a dangerous team.

I would love to see Suarez, Forlan and Cavani carve up England's back 4 like a Christmas ham.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #1630
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Really? I thought Brazil and the teams in group A were guaranteed to have the worst travel?
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:30 PM   #1631
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Okay....correct me if I'm wrong but shouldnt all teams in Group G have effectively the same travel schedule?

I'm not trying to take anything away from the US, they got a raw deal.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:12 PM   #1632
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Okay....correct me if I'm wrong but shouldnt all teams in Group G have effectively the same travel schedule?

I'm not trying to take anything away from the US, they got a raw deal.
for the most part no

if you look at the map here



US goes North East to NW back to NE (Natal-Manaus-Recife)
Germany plays all their games within the 4 eastern cities (Salvador-Foraleza-Recife)
Portugal is close to the same as the US, lots of travel (Salvador-Manaus-Brasilia)
Ghana really only has one travel (Natal-Foraleza-Brasilia)
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Games in Manaus - that is nuts. Is there mosquito netting around that stadium?
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:32 PM   #1634
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UEFA is all ready in talks with FIFA to switch match times with England/Italy and Uruguay/Costa Rica because as it stands right now the England game would be on at 2am BST and 3am CET

They want to move it back to the other time and have it be at 8pm BST
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #1635
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Brazil is only 5 hours ahead of us. This time around we don't need to or wake up in the small hours to watch games.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:49 PM   #1636
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Maybe only 3-4 hours difference?

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Old 12-06-2013, 03:54 PM   #1637
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Maybe only 3-4 hours difference?
You're right. Right now Brazil is 5 hours ahead of us. But with the ending of daylight saving time in spring, we spring forward and they actually fall back and cut 2 hours off of it. It could be only 3 hour time difference in the summer between Calgary and Rio.
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UEFA is all ready in talks with FIFA to switch match times with England/Italy and Uruguay/Costa Rica because as it stands right now the England game would be on at 2am BST and 3am CET

They want to move it back to the other time and have it be at 8pm BST
Does uefa really want an afternoon game in the heat?
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:46 PM   #1639
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Does uefa really want an afternoon game in the heat?
UEFA doesn't care about the heat, they care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and the ad revenue in basically primetime vs at 2 or 3am is massive
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Wait, what?!
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifa...ance-1.2449327

As for the travel, meh. These guys aren't having to shuffle onto domestic airlines, they'll have their own luxury aircraft. Rio to Manaus is a 4h flight.
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