F-this snow. I want to buy a truck!

[Hevishot]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

+1 on the Tacoma

You can get it in a manual transmission and you could add a TRD supercharger to crank up the awesomness

My buddy has the TRD Supercharger on his Tacoma (purchased new from the dealer). He gets approx 350-400km to a tank and under warranty he has had 3 replaced (1 every year due to failure) If you go yoda dont go the supercharger way or F150 Supercrew has more than enough rear seat space for kids and kid accessories.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by -TC-

I have noticed my AWD is more sure footed than my FWDs were...both on snows, same brand, similar model.

No doubt, I am in no way implying that FWD is better than AWD in the snow. But it's served me just fine through 5 Alberta winters so far and I've never had any problems. Good winter tires and common sense have gone a long way. I'll soon be able to afford one of the AWD cars I actually want (G37X or A5)

[RedMileDJ]

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Here is my input from when I was looking at trucks and still do.

Tacoma - nice truck but felt to crammed in it. I'm not overly tall but I was constantly hitting my head and the overall room wasn't great. I wasn't a fan because I was looking for more room and the Tacoma just didn't feel like it.

F-150 - Love this truck, plenty of room, great options BUT I have a buddy who has had numerous problems (could be a built on Friday truck or something)

Sierra/Silverado - I have an '08 Sierra and I love it, probably drive it until it dies. Only major downfall is the space in the back seat with a crew cab and car seat. The new ones have a couple inches more, which makes all the difference in the world, in terms of fitting car seats.

If my truck died and had to get something new I would go with the F-150 but as it is I'm happy with what I have now.

Titans - Garbage, gas guzzling pig. I'm a big fan of other Nissan products but they do not build a good truck I think

Just my opinions

[RedMileDJ]

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[RedMileDJ]

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[habernac]

Originally Posted by 4X4

First thing I did was buy new tires. My Taco was fast, or maybe my foot was heavy. But I've been a truck guy since I was 20, so I don't have a convertible mustang in my garage to compare my trucks to. It was definitely the quickest and most nimble truck I ever owned, compared to my half tons and my SUVs and my beloved first car, a Ford Tempo.

Ugh, I drove a Topaz. It would stall if you left it in gear, so you had to be in neutral when you were at a light (it was an automatic). the body looked great on that old piece of crap, though. Just couldn't stand the motor.

[FlamesKickAss]

I love my 2012 F150. Wouldn't trade it for anything! Ecoboost is fricken awesome! Mine is the FX4 version

[EYE_Overstand]

4 of my friends have F150s 2011, 2-2012s, 2013 ... All of them absolutely love them! No complaints at all. One has a Harley Davidson edition, ones a standard and 2 are upgraded... If I didn't live/work/play in DT, I'd get one... The are so fun to be a passenger in.

I'm an SUV guy my self, so that's where I recommend a Toyota 4runner... Never ever had an issue with the 2 I have owned (2000,2004)... I'm in an ML now and i really do NOT like it.

Good luck

[Sliver]

With the Tacoma, I think 4x4 (the poster; not the feature in the truck) was smarter than me by replacing the stock tires (on the standard truck; not sure how they are on the TRD). That would have solved my ride and traction issues, I'm sure.

As for it not being fun to drive, it probably comes down to expectations more than anything. Compared to every other truck, it drives more car like. The Tacoma has a comfortable ride, and that can be appealing. I know I liked it a lot better compared to the Frontier when I test drove them back to back.

Striving for a car-like ride in a truck is a difficult thing for a manufacturer to pull off. If you succeed, you may have a nice-riding truck relative to other trucks, but if you compare it to the ride in cars you're trying to emulate, you end up with the worst-driving car known to man. So with the Tacoma you end up with a vehicle that drives like a Tauras in the straights, feels like an Accord when you slow down, has the exhaust note of an Altima, but handles like a Bronco II in the corners. It just kills the fun for me. Which probably takes us back to the crappy tires that come standard on the vehicle.

As for my opinion that it is slow. An '11 Tacoma's 0-60 is 7.3 seconds and an '11 F-150 ecoboost is 6.1 seconds. Because the Tacoma feels so car like in the straights, that 7.3 feels extra slow (and it kind of is, TBH). The F-150, conversely, feels like a rocket. It's a big, high truck and 6.1 seconds feels awesome in it.

Bang for buck, though, F-150 annihilates the Tacoma. I leased both mine for ~$30K. The F-150 came with a tow package, sync (bluetooth, aux, ipod, satellite, voice control, etc.), traction control, stability control, and an actual usable backseat (the backseat in the extended cab Tacoma isn't usable for anybody). Tacoma didn't have any of the above (although hopefully that would be different on a '14 because not having traction and stability control is inexcusable on a modern $30,000 vehicle).

As others have said, though, Chev and Dodge are great trucks, too. Just watch the value on the Tacoma...it's really not there, man.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

I'd 'thank' this, but I'm all out of 'thanks'!

In all my life I never thought I would consider a Ford vehicle...but here I am, anxiously waiting to test drive one.

You should change the thread title to F-150 this snow.

[Hockeyguy15]

I'm not sure why everyone is comparing Tacoma to F-150 as they aren't the same category, F-150 and Tundra would be what you want to compare.

[StrykerSteve]

Tundra, all day, every day.

[Righteous1]

Just buy a Bobcat and a bag of weed

[Kybosh]

Nobody believes me when I say it, but my 2012 Silverado 5.3L is better on gas than the 2008 4.0L Ranger I had previously. The new engine technologies are really cool. Like I said in that other thread, I settled on the GM/Chev product because I could get everything I wanted but for about $5k less than the comparable ecoboost F-150.

Now if only I could figure out how to stop getting hit by rocks in and around Red Deer for work....

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I'm not sure why everyone is comparing Tacoma to F-150 as they aren't the same category, F-150 and Tundra would be what you want to compare.

Good point, but from certain perspectives they are comparable. You can compare them to each other at the exact same price point. You can also load up an F-150 and then it becomes more comparable to Tundra. At my company we leased a Ranger for four years, then went to a Tacoma for four years, then realized we can get a lot more truck for the same money in an F-150, which is what we did.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Nobody believes me when I say it, but my 2012 Silverado 5.3L is better on gas than the 2008 4.0L Ranger I had previously. The new engine technologies are really cool. Like I said in that other thread, I settled on the GM/Chev product because I could get everything I wanted but for about $5k less than the comparable ecoboost F-150.

Now if only I could figure out how to stop getting hit by rocks in and around Red Deer for work....

Yep, my Ranger and Tacoma were both worse on gas than my F-150. Plus the 140 litre (I think) tank in the F-150 lasts all month. And I love that feature where there isn't a gas cap - you just open the door and shove the nozzle in. Kind of crazy they aren't like that on every vehicle.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yep, my Ranger and Tacoma were both worse on gas than my F-150. Plus the 140 litre (I think) tank in the F-150 lasts all month. And I love that feature where there isn't a gas cap - you just open the door and shove the nozzle in. Kind of crazy they aren't like that on every vehicle.

This is why the small truck market is disappearing. The full size trucks are better on gas and can do a heck of a lot more. The Ranger especially was a hog on gas. I don't think the engine or transmission pairing had changed significantly since 1996.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Good point, but from certain perspectives they are comparable. You can compare them to each other at the exact same price point. You can also load up an F-150 and then it becomes more comparable to Tundra. At my company we leased a Ranger for four years, then went to a Tacoma for four years, then realized we can get a lot more truck for the same money in an F-150, which is what we did.

Yeah I was looking at it strictly from the fact that a Tacoma is not a real truck.

Test drive F-150, Tundra, Silverado, Sierra, Ram 1500. I have a Tundra and love it, my buddy has a F-150 ecoboost and loves it (had a Silverado and likes the Ford better), father in law has a Sierra and loves it. No one has had any problems with any of those so far (knock on wood).

Oddly enough no one I know has a Ram.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

This is why the small truck market is disappearing. The full size trucks are better on gas and can do a heck of a lot more. The Ranger especially was a hog on gas. I don't think the engine or transmission pairing had changed significantly since 1996.

Yeah I always made fun of people for buying a brand new 1996 Ranger in like 2009.

Not a word of a lie, my business partner took our Ranger back to the dealership like five times to complain about something wrong with the vehicle that was causing atrocious fuel economy. Nope, it just sucks on gas.