11-26-2013, 03:20 PM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
So what's in it for CBC? They must be paid something. Or at least keep commercial revenue...
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As other people have said, not losing money is enough to be make it worthwhile for CBC.
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11-26-2013, 03:22 PM
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#542
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Originally Posted by nik-
I'm wondering what's in it for CBC too. They get to keep an institution, which is obviously huge, but they were using that institution to push all of their other offerings. Unless they get to keep doing that (which I assume they won't) CBC will be paying Rogers to advertise on their own feed.
It seems odd.
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Re: CBC - they get free programming and can promote their shows during it. Anything else they would air during that time would cost money and get less viewers.
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I'm wondering how this works out too. Is Rogers selling adspace on HNIC now? And if it is, is CBC paying Rogers to advertise CBC shows during HNIC? I can't imagine it workng that way from CBC's POV. But other than not paying a bunch of money and still showing games, I don't know what CBC gets.
It must be something like PeteMoss is saying.
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11-26-2013, 03:23 PM
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#543
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by SebC
As other people have said, not losing money is enough to be make it worthwhile for CBC.
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Why HNiC and not reruns of some old CBC show then?
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11-26-2013, 03:25 PM
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#544
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
So what's in it for CBC? They must be paid something. Or at least keep commercial revenue...
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They still get to promote their programming to the HNiC audience. CBC gets no revenue, but they also have no expenses related to HNiC.
In order to remain at the table with HNiC in its current form, CBC would have likely needed to at least double what they're paying the NHL for rights, and at that point, it's likely no longer a profit generator for the network.
Also, depending on how Rogers will use the CBC's staff (both on camera and off), this may allow them to save some jobs and keep CBC Sports alive for other programming. Losing HNiC outright, would likely have meant the total shutdown of CBC Sports.
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11-26-2013, 03:26 PM
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#546
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Why HNiC and not reruns of some old CBC show then?
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They can put up a graphic that says 'Murdock Mysteries' - Tuesday at 8pm. Or something of that nature. If they put on some re-run that no one watches it just fires up the CBC is irrelevant and no one watches it debate.
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11-26-2013, 03:38 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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What hockey broadcasts? The WJHC?
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11-26-2013, 03:39 PM
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#548
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Maybe TSN can setup a CFL arena league in the winter.
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11-26-2013, 03:40 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
What hockey broadcasts? The WJHC?
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They still have the regional rights for the Winnipeg Jets and apparently the regional rights for the Canadiens is up for negotiation.
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11-26-2013, 03:41 PM
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So CBC is paying Rogers to broadcast HNIC, and CBC also got to advertise their crap shows during the game for free. In turn Rogers will use that money to pay CBC to advertise during the broadcast. So at the end of the day there will be no real money changing hands, and both can get free advertisements
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11-26-2013, 03:42 PM
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#551
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
What hockey broadcasts? The WJHC?
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Sounds like TSN still has some regional Leafs games as well as the Jets games through 2021 also looks like CBC will be impacted considerably much like TSN;
http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ster-deal.html
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11-26-2013, 03:45 PM
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#552
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by getbak
They still get to promote their programming to the HNiC audience. CBC gets no revenue, but they also have no expenses related to HNiC.
In order to remain at the table with HNiC in its current form, CBC would have likely needed to at least double what they're paying the NHL for rights, and at that point, it's likely no longer a profit generator for the network.
Also, depending on how Rogers will use the CBC's staff (both on camera and off), this may allow them to save some jobs and keep CBC Sports alive for other programming. Losing HNiC outright, would likely have meant the total shutdown of CBC Sports.
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It also depends on what CBC's mandate is. Are they supposed to be making money, or are they supposed to be promoting Canadian content? If it's the latter, then I'd argue they get to achieve that with this deal without actually spending any money, which in turn means it's probably worthwhile to CBC and to Canadian taxpayers.
Last edited by The Yen Man; 11-26-2013 at 03:47 PM.
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11-26-2013, 03:49 PM
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#553
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
Maybe TSN can setup a CFL arena league in the winter.
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Ha! I wonder if that would actually work? I doubt it. Has anyone seen an Arena Football game live? It looks pretty stupid on TV, but maybe it's better in person.
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11-26-2013, 03:51 PM
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#554
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Perth Australia
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So TSN is done?
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11-26-2013, 03:54 PM
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#555
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Coke Zero Moment - Bob McKenzie laid-off.
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11-26-2013, 03:55 PM
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#556
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Originally Posted by SebC
Or, Sportsnet quality could stay Sportsnet quality (or at least not rise to CBC/TSN quality), and then our Wednesday and Saturday broadcasts have taken a hit.
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HNIC no longer generates revenue for CBC: loss.
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You don't spend $5.2 billion to provide Rob Kerr and Charlie Simmer with a bigger stage. The quality of the broadcasts will go up.
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11-26-2013, 03:55 PM
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#557
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner
This product would work the same as existing ones, in that you could use it to watch out of market games. I don't think anyone said the online product could be used to replace the national and regional broadcasts?
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The initial post suggested that the primary purpose would be to lift all of the regional blackouts, and even mentioned Game Centre. Online games are currently blacked out regionally if you live in the region, so I assumed (probably wrongly) that this meant that Flames games, for example, would no longer be blacked out online within the Flames region.
So yeah - I saw Game Centre, lifting of regional blackouts, and got all excited. It probably won't happen, but that's how I arrived at it.
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11-26-2013, 03:57 PM
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#558
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
So CBC is paying Rogers to broadcast HNIC, and CBC also got to advertise their crap shows during the game for free. In turn Rogers will use that money to pay CBC to advertise during the broadcast. So at the end of the day there will be no real money changing hands, and both can get free advertisements
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No, CBC is not paying Rogers to broadcast HNIC.
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11-26-2013, 03:57 PM
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#559
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
You don't spend $5.2 billion to provide Rob Kerr and Charlie Simmer with a bigger stage. The quality of the broadcasts will go up.
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Alternatively, you don't spend $5.2 billion and have alot of money left lying around.
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11-26-2013, 04:01 PM
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#560
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Alternatively, you don't spend $5.2 billion and have alot of money left lying around.
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If they're going to spend that much money, what's another few hundred grand to get people who know what they're doing? I don't buy that argument for a second. The $5.2 billion was a starting point.
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