[News] Sportsnet signs 12 year $5.2 billion for NHL CDN Broadcast rights. - Page 22 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

TurnedTheCorner · 11-26-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Rogers just paid 5.2 billion. They're going to find a way to extract their pound of flesh from you.

Yep. These deals for sports all over North America are so lucrative because they keep people paying for cable and satellite subscriptions, *and* because people watch sports live which means less ads are skipped. Chances are to see all of this great SN NHL coverage on any mobile device or online, you will need to be a cable/satellite subscriber or Rogers wireless customer. Though perhaps for mobile they will let other providers carry NHL for a fee, as I expect.

Nsd1 · 11-26-2013, 11:04 AM

As long as I can watch more hockey, I'm happy. Hopefully Sportsnet will stream some or all of their games on the internet like CBC does. Guessing guys are already jumping off the CBC/TSN ship. Maybe we will get to see a McLean vs. Maclean segment.

heep223 · 11-26-2013, 11:05 AM

I don't see the big issue here. CBC HNIC remains. Sportsnet's content and production will be dragged UP by this deal and they'll be recruiting better talent. I was sick of TSN (Toronto Sports Network) and their panels and dartboard monkeys, they didn't know #### about the Flames or really any western team. Sportsnet can poach the best talent and that should spill over into regionals.

TurnedTheCorner · 11-26-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nsd1

As long as I can watch more hockey, I'm happy. Hopefully Sportsnet will stream some or all of their games on the internet like CBC does.

I think it's almost a guarantee you will see SN national broadcasts streamed online.

codynw · 11-26-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Great if you live out of market for your favorite team, or you want to watch NHL hockey every night. Not worth it otherwise IMO. As things stand currently.

I live in Alberta, so Flames games would not be why I get it. I would just like to be able to watch games whenever I want, not just when they're on TV. I'll have to think about it, I especially want to be able to watch Boston games.

Tinordi · 11-26-2013, 11:11 AM

There's a reason cablecos are forking over huge cash to lock down sports rights.

Julio · 11-26-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Yes, regional blackouts for regional broadcasts would still apply. A Tuesday night Flames game on SN-W could not be viewed outside the SN-W region, for example.

The national games for Canadian teams on Wed, Sat, and Sun will not be blacked out and can be watched by anyone coast to coast.

You have seen more of the coverage than I have TTC, but a bullet point I got was

"The agreement guarantees that there will be no further regionalization of games or local blackouts"

I would assume this means that whenever regional contracts are up (TSN for Jets for example) it would revert to the national Rogers agreement. Given that, one would think it would be up to Rogers if they want to have the properties they currently have on a regional feed (such as Flames on Snet West) go national, or be blacked out.

TurnedTheCorner · 11-26-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

I live in Alberta, so Flames games would not be why I get it. I would just like to be able to watch games whenever I want, not just when they're on TV. I'll have to think about it, I especially want to be able to watch Boston games.

I assume you mean you would like to do this without a cable/satellite subscription, right? Because otherwise every Flames game is on TV in the Flames region.

codynw · 11-26-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

I assume you mean you would like to do this without a cable/satellite subscription, right? Because otherwise every Flames game is on TV in the Flames region.

I said Flames games would not be why I get it. I have cable and can watch Flames games. I want to watch other teams.

TurnedTheCorner · 11-26-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio

You have seen more of the coverage than I have TTC, but a bullet point I got was

"The agreement guarantees that there will be no further regionalization of games or local blackouts"

I would assume this means that whenever regional contracts are up (TSN for Jets for example) it would revert to the national Rogers agreement. Given that, one would think it would be up to Rogers if they want to have the properties they currently have on a regional feed (such as Flames on Snet West) go national, or be blacked out.

All of the quotes are in the context of the national broadcast games though. This deal is for national broadcast rights. Regional broadcast rights, or per team broadcast rights, are still a thing.

In your example, once the Jets regional contract expires (8 more years I believe), the Jets could then sell their regional contract rights to whomever. Same as when the Flames/Oilers regional rights expire in 2020.

When the quotes talk about "No more regionalization of games or local blackouts, they're talking about HNIC "national" broadcast scenarios where (depending on the schedule) Canadiens fans would see the Habs/Bruins on CBC, english East of Manitoba would see the Leafs/Sens, and fans Manitoba and West would see Flames/Jets in the early slot. while CBC coast to coast would show the Oilers/Canucks game.

Under this new agreement, for the early games, french of Habs/Bruins would be on TVA. English of Habs/Bruins might be on CBC. English of Leafs/Sens might be on Sportsnet One SN-Ont. Flames/Jets might be on SN-E, SN-W, and SN-P. Late game for Oilers/Canucks would be on CBC.

For all of those games on Saturday night, viewers could pick the channel for the game they want to watch and watch it, regardless of their location. All broadcasts on the designated nights (Wed, Sat, Sun) will be truly national. The only catch could be if the viewers TV subscription carries all of the necessary TV channels.

Does that clear it up?

lazypucker · 11-26-2013, 11:23 AM

I don't care if HNIC is still on CBC, as long as Andi Petrillo is retained

TurnedTheCorner · 11-26-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

I said Flames games would not be why I get it. I have cable and can watch Flames games. I want to watch other teams.

Sorry, my misunderstanding.

You should have much more selection of national broadcasts three nights a week, primarily featuring Canadian teams but also showing some US only matchups once this deal takes effect next year.

Since1984 · 11-26-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

I said Flames games would not be why I get it. I have cable and can watch Flames games. I want to watch other teams.

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GirlySports · 11-26-2013, 11:24 AM

A game on CityTV is nice, everyone has that right?

SebC · 11-26-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GGG

Great News that a Government Funded company isn't competing with private networks to make it more costly.

If CBC were to just bid up the price and ultimately lose, I agree. However, the current situation (where HNIC is a money-generator for CBC) is better than the situation will be under the new deal from a taxpayer perspective.

Currently, the gap between the broadcast rights value and what CBC is paying is captured by taxpayers. Under the new deal, the gap has shrunk (NHL has recaptured value) and any part that might be left gets captured by Rogers.

Vinny01 · 11-26-2013, 11:30 AM

So now all the regional games will be on so all Canucks, Leafs, Sens games will be free here? English Habs and Jets still regional on TSN?

Once SN poaches all that TSN talent the FAN will have much better analysts to call in to talk hockey.

TSN is going to be based on the CFL with Rogers controlling the Jays TSN is a sinking ship

lazypucker · 11-26-2013, 11:34 AM

I guess what's left for TSN is CFL, NBA and Sunday / Monday NFL. They can always pick up more soccer, but I guess Sportsnet got a strong hold on that as well

opendoor · 11-26-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

So now all the regional games will be on so all Canucks, Leafs, Sens games will be free here? English Habs and Jets still regional on TSN?

I don't think so. All the regional Sportsnet agreements were already in place prior to this so I assume there'll still be blackouts for those games.

TurnedTheCorner · 11-26-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

So now all the regional games will be on so all Canucks, Leafs, Sens games will be free here? English Habs and Jets still regional on TSN?

Once SN poaches all that TSN talent the FAN will have much better analysts to call in to talk hockey.

TSN is going to be based on the CFL with Rogers controlling the Jays TSN is a sinking ship

No, the regional games will not be on here. Regional games will still be blacked out outside the broadcast region.

This doesn't change the regional deals. This is a new deal for national broadcast rights.

HelloHockeyFans · 11-26-2013, 11:39 AM

Yah, if Sportsnet stayed at its current production quality, this would be horrible news, but that's not likely to happen.

They'll also poach the best people from TSN with large offers who will leave to be able to do what they do best at their competitor. Loyalty takes a back-seat when you're highly desired in the industry and you're presented with a good opportunity.

Big loss for TSN, but if they can re-tool and focus on NFL / NBA, they'll be okay.