11-19-2013, 10:16 PM
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#221
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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its wrong IMO for a public official to go after a private citizen like that for political gain no matter what you think of them
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So he can't disagree with lobbyists? Journalists? Canadian Pacific when they shut down Deerfoot? I'd go so far as to say that when private citizens attack what he perceives as the city's interest, it is his job to rebuff them.
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
putrid i would sooner raise money for several charity's over raising money for any politician that over stepped their boundaries.
I remember it like yesterday Nenshi making comments, "shadowy dark meeting", words like "secretive and clandestine", "my office has obtained footage of this meeting".
Really it just showed up one sunny day with a neat little bow on it, is that what Nenshi is saying, intelligent people are suppose to buy that story.
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I'm not sure what you're implying, but you sound like a Rob Ford denialist and anyone who wanted to has seen the Wenzel video.
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11-19-2013, 10:52 PM
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#222
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by getbak
This shows all contributions over $2,000 received by all winning Alderman candidates as well as McIver, Higgins, and Nenshi for the 2010 election: http://globalnews.ca/news/504875/cam...il-candidates/
Shane Homes gave $6,000 to Jim Stevenson, which appears to be violation of the Elections Act.
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The limit is $5,000/year. It may have been donated over a number of years, some sitting aldermen have fundraisers every year.
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11-20-2013, 08:33 AM
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#223
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Smartcar
The limit is $5,000/year. It may have been donated over a number of years, some sitting aldermen have fundraisers every year.
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Yeah, it doesn't break it down, which is why I said it appears to violate the Act.
Here is the link to every candidate's full disclosure statements: http://www.calgary.ca/CA/city-clerks...-Finances.aspx
I haven't looked at them all, but McIver is the only one I've seen who has his broken down by date. He actually has multiple donations from some contributors that exceed $5000 in total, but because they're dated, they all seem to fall within the acceptable time frames. For example, McIver has three separate donations from Carma that exceed $2000, plus a few smaller contributions from Carma, but because they're spread across the three years of the election cycle, they're okay.
The Elections Act doesn't require the disclosure statement to break down the contributions by year, only to show the total received from any one entity over the cycle. If Shane gave Stevenson the $6,000 spread over the three years such that it didn't exceed $5,000 in any one year, that would be fine.
As far as I know, neither Stevenson nor Shane were fined for violating the Elections Act, so it must have been acceptable.
Here's the transcript from the video of what Wenzel said regarding Druh Farrell, which appears to be the part where he is "admitting that he broke the law":
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Uh, I had 13 trucks out, uh, last election delivering signs and assembling them and I got called by, uh, Druh and the elections, uh, because they said I’d given 5000 in cash, so therefore my trucks that were out delivering put me over the 5000 and they were gonna take us to court so, obviously, Druh and I don’t see eye-to-eye
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This is in regards to Kevin Taylor's campaign against Farrell.
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11-20-2013, 09:00 AM
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#224
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Obviously Wenzel is embarrassed about being caught on video. He has a billion+ dollars so 5M wont make any difference. I initially thought it was about trying to find out who took the video as the story would become very juicy if it happened to be someone with ties to Nenshi. Now I think its about what can be learned from discovery or whatever the legal process is called and trying to kill Nenshi's future either Provincially or Federally.
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No way Wenzel is a billionaire.
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11-20-2013, 09:17 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
No way Wenzel is a billionaire.
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Exactly. Not even close.
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11-20-2013, 03:40 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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While scumbag Cal is busy suing the mayor for $6 million, the owner of Jayman homes is busy donating $5 million to the UofC.
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11-20-2013, 03:42 PM
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#227
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
While scumbag Cal is busy suing the mayor for $6 million, the owner of Jayman homes is busy donating $5 million to the UofC.
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A perfect example of the concept of "Opportunity Cost." A shrewd PR move indeed.
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11-20-2013, 03:56 PM
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#228
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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When Stelmach was trying to change Royalties and win Public Support, did he name and personally call out the CEO of Enbridge, Encana, Suncor, etc and vilify them for lobbying to keep royalties low?
hmmmm
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11-20-2013, 04:02 PM
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#229
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
While scumbag Cal is busy suing the mayor for $6 million, the owner of Jayman homes is busy donating $5 million to the UofC.
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Wenzel has said he will donate all of the money to charity if the suit was successful. Does that change things? Theoretically it would be $6M to charity....so that makes him a good guy again?
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11-20-2013, 04:11 PM
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#230
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Slava
Wenzel has said he will donate all of the money to charity if the suit was successful. Does that change things? Theoretically it would be $6M to charity....so that makes him a good guy again?
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While theoretically, personally bankrupting the leader of the city he supposedly cares about. Again, this guy is an absolute idiot.
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11-20-2013, 04:14 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Tyler
While theoretically, personally bankrupting the leader of the city he supposedly cares about. Again, this guy is an absolute idiot.
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Well the donation has nothing to do with this, that's all my point is.
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11-20-2013, 04:19 PM
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Originally Posted by Slava
Wenzel has said he will donate all of the money to charity if the suit was successful. Does that change things? Theoretically it would be $6M to charity....so that makes him a good guy again?
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I notice a lot of people have been doing that recently when they are trying to hard to prove they are a good guy while making outlandish impossible to verify claims. It's so Donald Trump.
Kinda makes me like Wenzel even less.
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11-20-2013, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
While scumbag Cal is busy suing the mayor for $6 million, the owner of Jayman homes is busy donating $5 million to the UofC.
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Makes me appreciate my Jayman home even more. I would not buy a Shane home.
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11-20-2013, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Slava
Wenzel has said he will donate all of the money to charity if the suit was successful. Does that change things? Theoretically it would be $6M to charity....so that makes him a good guy again?
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Absolutely not. He was holding meetings to give the whole city the finger for his own company's gain. He only cares about his business and his bank account. Which is fine for him since any business owner would do the same thing but what he was trying to do wasn't best for Calgary so I'm not about to agree with him.
So why would I consider him a good guy? He's just mad he can't push around the mayor like him and his other home building buddies have been doing for quite some time. Finally someone stood up to their BS and is putting Calgary first instead of being held hostage by them.
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11-20-2013, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by Tyler
While theoretically, personally bankrupting the leader of the city he supposedly cares about. Again, this guy is an absolute idiot.
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Nenshi is a billionaire!...
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11-20-2013, 05:36 PM
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#236
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by northcrunk
Makes me appreciate my Jayman home even more. I would not buy a Shane home.
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LOL. Jay Westman and Cal Wenzel are best friends. They've done tremendous amount of work together, both business and charitable.
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11-20-2013, 06:10 PM
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#237
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Slava
Wenzel has said he will donate all of the money to charity if the suit was successful. Does that change things? Theoretically it would be $6M to charity....so that makes him a good guy again?
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Nope. He's trying to splash perfume all over the giant turd that is his behaviour throughout this has been. That said, it does indicate that he realizes he has a great deal of work ahead rehabilitating the public's impression of him.
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11-20-2013, 06:23 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by fotze
They must smoke cigars together. Please tell me they do that.
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Jayman does have a really nice Scotch & Cigar room at their building, I've heard.
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11-20-2013, 06:26 PM
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#239
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by fotze
They should call it the 'subsidy room o dreams' to piss off SebC.
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In Chandler's voice: "Can he BE any more pissed off?"
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11-20-2013, 06:29 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by fotze
They must smoke cigars together. Please tell me they do that.
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Which they light with $100 bills, I'm sure (which isn't as classy anymore now that we have plastic money that melts when you burn it).
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