View Poll Results: What are you buying?
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Xbox One
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PS4
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Changed from Xbox One to PS4
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1.87% |
Changed from PS4 to Xbox One
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Getting both (eventually)
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Waiting for more info
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Not getting either
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11-20-2013, 11:21 AM
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#1262
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Lifetime Suspension
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"At Launch, Xbox One has a games advantage"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthi...mes-advantage/
Summary:
Article continues to say that the PS4 was a lackluster launch and Xbox One is a pleasant surprise. PS4 says that its a pure gaming machine but Xbox One is better out of the gate.
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11-20-2013, 12:00 PM
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#1263
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robaur
"At Launch, Xbox One has a games advantage"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthi...mes-advantage/
Summary:
Article continues to say that the PS4 was a lackluster launch and Xbox One is a pleasant surprise. PS4 says that its a pure gaming machine but Xbox One is better out of the gate.
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Uh oh and that's not Polygon. Microsoft must have paid off forbes as well.
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11-20-2013, 12:04 PM
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#1264
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Franchise Player
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These articles comparing the launch line ups are getting silly. So, the Xbox One has 3 average-above average games while PS4 has 2. Whoop de doo. Neither platform has a really exciting launch line-up or a must-have title. PS3 had a boring launch and ended up having the most awesome exclusive games. PS2 had an awful launch and had probably the most robust line-up of games on any console ever.
Everyone is just so desperate to find a winner/loser right away but we won't be able to say anything one way or the other for at LEAST a year. It's like how everyone wants to pick NHL draft winners and losers the day after the draft.
Both are cool pieces of hardware with lots of potential and some average games to kick them off. The end.
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11-20-2013, 12:36 PM
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#1266
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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I'm a little disappinted by the initial reviews of the Xbox One's kinect, voice control, and tv input features. Sounds like there are a lot of hiccups and almost more trouble than its worth at this point. MS better get that stuff working and working well very soon if it wants people to pay $100 more than its competitor for the console. I know its early days, but this was the Xbox's big selling point being the central hub of your living room -- it needs to work properly. Maybe MS is overreaching with this concept, and Sony was smarter to take the games focused approach.
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11-20-2013, 12:36 PM
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#1267
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Franchise Player
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Last edited by chemgear; 11-20-2013 at 12:42 PM.
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11-20-2013, 12:38 PM
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#1268
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
These articles comparing the launch line ups are getting silly. So, the Xbox One has 3 average-above average games while PS4 has 2. Whoop de doo. Neither platform has a really exciting launch line-up or a must-have title. PS3 had a boring launch and ended up having the most awesome exclusive games. PS2 had an awful launch and had probably the most robust line-up of games on any console ever.
Everyone is just so desperate to find a winner/loser right away but we won't be able to say anything one way or the other for at LEAST a year. It's like how everyone wants to pick NHL draft winners and losers the day after the draft.
Both are cool pieces of hardware with lots of potential and some average games to kick them off. The end.
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Forza 5 says VROOOOOOOOOOOOM.
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11-20-2013, 12:40 PM
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#1269
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
These articles comparing the launch line ups are getting silly. So, the Xbox One has 3 average-above average games while PS4 has 2. Whoop de doo. Neither platform has a really exciting launch line-up or a must-have title. PS3 had a boring launch and ended up having the most awesome exclusive games. PS2 had an awful launch and had probably the most robust line-up of games on any console ever.
Everyone is just so desperate to find a winner/loser right away but we won't be able to say anything one way or the other for at LEAST a year. It's like how everyone wants to pick NHL draft winners and losers the day after the draft.
Both are cool pieces of hardware with lots of potential and some average games to kick them off. The end.
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Funny you mention this after so many Sony fanboys declared Sony the winner at E3 and the war essentially over. So you can only declare a loser when it suits your favorite console?  It's here just go back to the beginning of the thread.
Now you are seeing things the way I originally said months ago in that it's a marathon not a sprint.
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11-20-2013, 12:41 PM
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#1270
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igottago
I'm a little disappinted by the initial reviews of the Xbox One's kinect, voice control, and tv input features. Sounds like there are a lot of hiccups and almost more trouble than its worth at this point. MS better get that stuff working and working well very soon if it wants people to pay $100 more than its competitor for the console. I know its early days, but this was the Xbox's big selling point being the central hub of your living room -- it needs to work properly. Maybe MS is overreaching with this concept, and Sony was smarter to take the games focused approach.
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Strange....As every review I read says that it works pretty well..but it has its hiccups but which voice-input device doesnt? On a majority...it works...
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11-20-2013, 12:43 PM
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#1271
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by robaur
Forza 5 says VROOOOOOOOOOOOM.
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I don't think anyone can argue now the XB1 has a superior lineup as most sites have all said much the same heck even the best looking launch game is an XB1 game in Ryse (not sure about the quality of the game though). Forza is getting 9's all around the internet today and is without a doubt the most polished, best launch game to date for the consoles. That said racing games aren't for everyone fortunately Dead Rising 3 by all accounts is extremely fun despite some technical issues with review versions.
That said a year from now is when things are really going to heat up for both consoles.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 11-20-2013 at 12:47 PM.
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11-20-2013, 12:43 PM
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#1272
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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I find it funny because if the situation were reversed with the PS4 getting the slightly better reviews there are certain users on here that would be boasting about how "right" they were all along.
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11-20-2013, 12:49 PM
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#1274
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by cDnStealth
I find it funny because if the situation were reversed with the PS4 getting the slightly better reviews there are certain users on here that would be boasting about how "right" they were all along.
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Absolutely like I said before just look at the start of this thread. Although I expect the PS4 to outsell the XB1 this holiday season. Long term I expect things to change as I feel the XB1 offers more to casual gamers and will pick up a lot of that demographic that purchased Wii's.
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11-20-2013, 12:51 PM
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#1275
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2012
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I pre ordered my Xbox One in-store with EB Games here in Calgary back in early September. I haven't heard from them yet, do you guys think there is any chance of getting it on Friday from them? Anybody have insight on EB games pre order availability?
I traded up my Wii U for it, they were doing a promo if you traded it towards a next gen. I thought Wii U was supposed to be next gen lol.
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11-20-2013, 12:55 PM
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#1276
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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I love racing games so I'm pumped for Forza. It's too bad they had to rush it out for launch because there aren't as many cars or tracks as the previous version. That's better than porting over lo-res models like GT5 did though.
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11-20-2013, 12:57 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I don't think anyone can argue now the XB1 has a superior lineup as most sites have all said much the same heck even the best looking launch game is an XB1 game in Ryse (not sure about the quality of the game though). Forza is getting 9's all around the internet today and is without a doubt the most polished, best launch game to date for the consoles. That said racing games aren't for everyone fortunately Dead Rising 3 by all accounts is extremely fun despite some technical issues with review versions.
That said a year from now is when things are really going to heat up for both consoles.
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Where are you seeing this 9s for Forza 5? I took a look at Joystiq, Eurogamer and IGN and it got 7-8. The biggest complaint was the that there didn't seem to be too much content.
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11-20-2013, 01:00 PM
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Franchise Player
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Here is Anandtech's take on things - he's focusing more on technical performance and quite detailed as he is does. It's a long read with multiple pages via drop down selection (I think there was confusion about that a while back  ).
http://anandtech.com/show/7528/the-x...dware-analysis
Highlights via Neogaf (Bold format by OP):
COD:Ghosts
This is the big one. We’ve already established that the PS4 has more GPU performance under the hood, but how does that delta manifest in games? My guess is we’re going to see two different situations. The first being what we have here today. For the most part I haven’t noticed huge differences in frame rate between Xbox One and PS4 versions of the same game, but I have noticed appreciable differences in resolution/AA. This could very well be the One’s ROP limitations coming into play. Quality per pixel seems roughly equivalent across consoles, the PS4 just has an easier time delivering more of those pixels.
NBA2K14
NBA 2K14 is one cross platform title where I swear I could sense slight frame rate differences between the two consoles (during high quality replays) but it’s not something I managed to capture on video. Once again we find ourselves in a situation where there is a difference in resolution and/or AA levels between the Xbox One and PS4 versions of the game.
BF4
I grabbed a couple of scenes from early on in Battlefield 4. Once again the differences here are almost entirely limited to the amount of aliasing in the scene as far as I can tell. The Xbox One version is definitely more distracting. In practice I notice the difference in resolution, but it’s never enough to force me to pick one platform over another. I’m personally more comfortable with the Xbox One’s controller than the PS4’s, which makes for an interesting set of tradeoffs.
Performance
Typically AMD’s GPU targeting 1080p come with 32 ROPs, which is where the PS4 is, but the Xbox One ships with half that. The difference in raw shader performance (12 CUs vs 18 CUs) can definitely creep up in games that run more complex lighting routines and other long shader programs on each pixel, but all of the more recent reports of resolution differences between Xbox One and PS4 games at launch are likely the result of being ROP bound on the One.
Apps limited to cores?
Power consumption while running these CPU workloads is interesting. The marginal increase in system power consumption while running both tests on the Xbox One indicates one of two things: we’re either only taxing 1 - 2 cores here and/or Microsoft isn’t power gating unused CPU cores. I suspect it’s the former, since IE on the Xbox technically falls under the Windows kernel’s jurisdiction and I don’t believe it has more than 1 - 2 cores allocated for its needs.
The PS4 on the other hand shows a far bigger increase in power consumption during these workloads. For one we’re talking about higher levels of performance, but it’s also possible that Sony is allowing apps access to more CPU cores.
Conclusion
If all you play are cross-platform games, then the PS4 will give you better looking titles at a lower console cost. For those of you that are particularly bothered by aliasing, the PS4 will definitely reduce (not eliminate) that. However I would argue that if all you play are cross-platform games then you might want to look into buying/building a PC instead. I’m also unsure about how much cross shopping actually happens between these two platforms. I can understand for first time gamers (e.g. parents buying the first console for their kids), but otherwise I feel like your friend group and prior experience is going to ultimately determine whether you end up with a Xbox One or PS4.
Jaggies
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11-20-2013, 01:01 PM
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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What exclusives are there to tempt people to Xbox One? Forza 5 and Killer Instinct I can definitely see, but Dead Rising 3 looks like an unfinished mess and by all accounts Ryse is nothing more than a glorified tech demo. In the future you have a new Halo (a franchise past it's time now that Bungie isn't making it), Titanfall (which will have the better version on PC), and a bunch of games that we don't know much about yet
For the PS4 exclusives you get a generic-but-pretty FPS in Killzone at launch, so it's definitely lacking there. But in the future is a new Gran Turismo, Tekken, and Infamous, 3 big name franchises. Past that all of the most highly anticipated games are muti-platform (Watch Dogs, The Division, MGS V), which the PS4 wins because of better hardware
So unless you absolutely need a great racing or fighting game right now or are a diehard Halo fan, there doesn't seem to be much to get excited about with the Xbox One. I'm going to wait and see how their living room component comes along before deciding if I'll get one, as that's the only thing that really interests me about the console
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11-20-2013, 01:02 PM
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#1280
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meelapo
Where are you seeing this 9s for Forza 5? I took a look at Joystiq, Eurogamer and IGN and it got 7-8. The biggest complaint was the that there didn't seem to be too much content.
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8.8 from IGN and 9 from Gamespot who are the heavyweights. I personally have always found Gamespot the most reliable as they usually grade games harder than IGN and some other sites although I dislike what they have done to their site as it's a chore to navigate.
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