Latte Sipping, YOP Gobbling Urban Planning Megathread

[Violator]

If you click on explore the world you can see calgary from around the time of the 88 olympics Im actually surprised how little Calgary has grown.

[Bigtime]

Heard the deep NE described as the "Ethnoburbs" on Facebook today, I actually quite like it. It was used in a positive connotation too (while describing delicious eats at great prices).

[Magnum PEI]

[HOWITZER]

Originally Posted by Violator

If you click on explore the world you can see calgary from around the time of the 88 olympics Im actually surprised how little Calgary has grown.

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

I think you may be missing just how big a scale this is. You have to realize that every single large square that the city builds out there is one section of land. Each section being 640 acres. I don't know how many sections they've built in the last thirty years, but it's a lot.

[ranchlandsselling]

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

I think you may be missing just how big a scale this is. You have to realize that every single large square that the city builds out there is one section of land. Each section being 640 acres. I don't know how many sections they've built in the last thirty years, but it's a lot.

No kidding, just look at how easily nose hill was engulfed. Using that as a reference point think how many areas the size of nose hill have been developed.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

I think you may be missing just how big a scale this is. You have to realize that every single large square that the city builds out there is one section of land. Each section being 640 acres. I don't know how many sections they've built in the last thirty years, but it's a lot.

It looks to me like our population density has gone up dramatically though. Population in '88 was 657k, now its 1.15MM. That's a 75% increase in population, and it looks to me like the developed area has increased by dramatically less than that. If someone has some GIS skills I'd be interested to know the exact amount.

[Bigtime]

Look at Airdrie, it just explodes in size.

[HOWITZER]

I can't believe the growth in Red Deer personally.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

I can't believe the growth in Red Deer personally.

What is the time period between those two images

[HOWITZER]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

what is the time period between those two images

1984-2012

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Look at Airdrie, it just explodes in size.

Ever thought why?

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Ever thought why?

The 10 minute commute to downtown Calgary, clearly.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Ever thought why?

The amount of Yoplait on Airdrie grocery shelves must have reached critical mass just like an increase of oxygen in the atmosphere may have been a cause of the Cambrian Explosion of animal life.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

The 10 minute commute to downtown Calgary, clearly.

It's been the same distance all along. The reason satellite towns are exploding like yeast around Calgary is exactly the same reason homebuilders are getting involved in municipal politics. In addition to serviced lots becoming more and more expensive to buy, it has become almost impossible to buy them within Calgary city limits for independent homebuilding companies unless they are either owned by large developers or heavily investing with large developers.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Ever thought why?

When a host develops immunity to a parasite, the parasite must find a new host or it will die.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

It's been the same distance all along. The reason satellite towns are exploding like yeast around Calgary is exactly the same reason homebuilders are getting involved in municipal politics. In addition to serviced lots becoming more and more expensive to buy, it has become almost impossible to buy them within Calgary city limits for independent homebuilding companies unless they are either owned by large developers or heavily investing with large developers.

Than why did Calgary "explode" at pretty much the same rate, and FAR greater overall growth?

Also, why are all the communities in Airdrie developed by the same large developers?

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Than why did Calgary "explode" at pretty much the same rate, and FAR greater overall growth?

Also, why are all the communities in Airdrie developed by the same large developers?

Calgary is growing, because there are jobs and people want to move here. That's a good thing. Satellite towns are growing like crazy because housing is less expensive there.

Developers are in business of developing land into serviced lots. Why wouldn't they develop in Airdrie if there is demand?

To better illustrate my point, population growth in Edmonton has been as robust as it has been in Calgary in the last 10 years; but there is no service lot shortage there. Municipal policies are not growth prohibitive and the number of active developers there is substantially higher than in Calgary,

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Calgary is growing, because there are jobs and people want to move here. That's a good thing. Satellite towns are growing like crazy because housing is less expensive there.

Developers are in business of developing land into serviced lots. Why wouldn't they develop in Airdrie if there is demand?

To better illustrate my point, population growth in Edmonton has been as robust as it has been in Calgary in the last 10 years; but there is no service lot shortage there. Municipal policies are not growth prohibitive and the number of active developers there is substantially higher than in Calgary,

There's no serviced lot shortage here either.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

There's no serviced lot shortage here either.

You've got to be kidding!

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

You've got to be kidding!

http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/...home-builders/

There are currently 2,210 hectares (22 km2) of vacant serviced land, as defined in The City’s draft Suburban Growth Report 2013-2017, with an additional 420 hectares of serviced vacant land to be added by the end of 2014.