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View Poll Results: What are you buying?
Xbox One 66 15.46%
PS4 189 44.26%
Changed from Xbox One to PS4 8 1.87%
Changed from PS4 to Xbox One 6 1.41%
Getting both (eventually) 30 7.03%
Waiting for more info 60 14.05%
Not getting either 68 15.93%
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:21 PM   #1121
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Has the PS4 been dubbed with a nickname by the Xbox fanboys? I nominate Pisspoor
PoS4 maybe?
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:21 PM   #1122
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I don't get the brand loyalty to be honest.
Yep, for me it's all about the games and I love being able to have the best of both worlds.

I went with the PS4 for now because the only Xbox One game I have any interest in playing right now is Dead Rising 3 and I think it's stupid that Microsoft is forcing people to pay an extra $100 for something I will never use.
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:42 PM   #1123
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Xbone unboxing - past 10 min is just ads I think though.
My gosh, that power brick is huuuuuuuuge!
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:51 PM   #1124
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As gamers, we really should want both/more consoles to do well. The more competition the better it will be for all of us in the Thunderdome.

Joking aside, it is great to see the large console sales for the PS4 NOT because it somehow craps all over Microsoft. It is good to see because it refutes the whole "the console industry is dying" belief that some were seeing from the poor Wii U sales. It is good to see a healthy industry and an informed customer base.

We've only seen more about the PS4 so far because it launched first. Next week is all Xbone with the embargos coming up and here is to hoping that it sells a lot as well - we need viable consoles pushing each other for better and better services/games/performance.
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:58 PM   #1125
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Fixed.
It's the same post with my PSN name instead.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:13 PM   #1126
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I find it funny that analysts were calling the console market dieing/doom and gloom and the PS4 has a monstrous launch. And the Xbox One, even if it doesn't beat it, will be very big as well. If it doesn't top PS4 it'll at least be the second biggest console launch.
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I want both systems but I've been thinking about getting a gaming computer. I can play all my games on it, but I have not the slightest idea what I will need for a gaming computer.

What good is a gaming computer if you have to buy a new $300 graphics chip every year?
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:36 PM   #1128
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I want both systems but I've been thinking about getting a gaming computer. I can play all my games on it, but I have not the slightest idea what I will need for a gaming computer.

What good is a gaming computer if you have to buy a new $300 graphics chip every year?
You don't. I get tired of seeing this. If you went out and bought a graphics card that is equal or superior to that in either of the PS4 or One then you could very easily keep that card for the length of the new console generation and have equal or better graphics the entire time. It's not like your card stops working after a year and console graphics cards don't magically become better over a period of 7 years.
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You don't. I get tired of seeing this. If you went out and bought a graphics card that is equal or superior to that in either of the PS4 or One then you could very easily keep that card for the length of the new console generation and have equal or better graphics the entire time. It's not like your card stops working after a year and console graphics cards don't magically become better over a period of 7 years.
I knew it wouldn't stop working, but I read all the stuff about BF4 on here and how all the nerd speak about how they don't have enough power to play the game.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:55 PM   #1130
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You don't. I get tired of seeing this. If you went out and bought a graphics card that is equal or superior to that in either of the PS4 or One then you could very easily keep that card for the length of the new console generation and have equal or better graphics the entire time.
This is not accurate. Because console hardware is locked in and fixed, it benefits from coding refinements over it's lifetime much more so than your PC GPU. Also the console API's (the low level language that talks to the hardware) are much more efficient than what we run on Windows. Having said that, this generation the PS4/Xbone are running Radeon based graphics (GCN architecture), so the coding efficiencies will transfer over to PC side (at least if you are running AMD hardware) more readily than in the past.

AMD does have an API called Mantle that promises to bring the console efficiencies to the PC side, will be interesting to see how that shakes out.
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Gametrailers Round Table discussion on Xbone today.

http://www.gametrailers.com/full-epi...ox-s-money-war
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IMO if you are hard up for cash you may want to hold off on a PS4. It sounds like there are a lot of bricked PS4's. A lot. We will probably start to hear next week but on amazon it's crazy how many have been reported as bricked and supposedly no replacements until February.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-...DateDescending
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Interesting that you posted a link sorted to show only 1 star reviews.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:36 PM   #1134
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Interesting that you posted a link sorted to show only 1 star reviews.
I think that was his point. He was showing the reviews where people were having trouble on purpose, not sneakily.
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Would be better to just post the link, and let people sort reviews as they see fit, as per usual.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:43 PM   #1136
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Would be better to just post the link, and let people sort reviews as they see fit, as per usual.
You make is sound like you can't sort the link yourself or something.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:52 PM   #1137
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BTW did anyone that got their PS4's shipped by Best Buy find that their packing was pretty underwhelming? Mine came in the same oversized cardboard box as everyone else's but you could totally shake around the console and it had one measly piece if packing paper inside. My PS4 box had a bent corner but the console it pretty tight inside but I didn't like the idea of how it could just jump around in the box during transport with no packing.

I have my XB1 from them as well and I hope they do a better job packing the console.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:00 PM   #1138
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I knew it wouldn't stop working, but I read all the stuff about BF4 on here and how all the nerd speak about how they don't have enough power to play the game at the highest settings.
Fixed that for you. You can run BF4 flawlessly on High detail settings on very modest hardware, it's only when you bump it to Ultra that it starts demanding a more modern GPU. And even on the High setting it still looks equal or better to the PS4 version
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IMO if you are hard up for cash you may want to hold off on a PS4. It sounds like there are a lot of bricked PS4's. A lot. We will probably start to hear next week but on amazon it's crazy how many have been reported as bricked and supposedly no replacements until February.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-...DateDescending
It's always been like this for first generation technology, consoles in particular. It's only a shame that there's as much exposure/failure as there is now.
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