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Old 11-14-2013, 12:13 PM   #21
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I was goign to say about the Clarkson suspension, that's pretty standard. There was no way to avoid that. As for during the season and it being subjective, since there is no real rhyme or reason for why some suspensions get handed out, I think this one will be a joke too. Maybe 1 game
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:44 PM   #22
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Not a fan of Kadri's antics this season. Give him 5 he has been a weasel for several games. Hand out 4 games, goalies are completely defensless they have to concentrate on the puck. Running a goalie in that aggressive manor is completely a hack play and Kadri's action should be punished with a multi game suspension. Not to mention a direct hit to the head.
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Not a fan of Kadri's antics this season. Give him 5 he has been a weasel for several games. Hand out 4 games, goalies are completely defensless they have to concentrate on the puck. Running a goalie in that aggressive manor is completely a hack play and Kadri's action should be punished with a multi game suspension. Not to mention a direct hit to the head.
Yep, that plus the league really should be looking at the Granlund hit as well. 5+ should be what he gets.
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:43 PM   #24
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So let me ask you this. Yeo has said the Wild is not built to play the rough game. Basically admitting they're not tough enough to get into that kind of game with the Leafs. IF you heard that from your coach, what would you think?

I'm torn. It goes against my fabric to say it's okay to let a guy run your goalie like that. But, if the Wild's as soft as Yeo evidently thinks, then I can see where he doesn't want them trying to be something they're not. And, of course, they did get even where it counts the most (even though the Buds got a point).

There is a pretty vocal subset of Wild fans that is deriding the team for being so soft, though.
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So let me ask you this. Yeo has said the Wild is not built to play the rough game. Basically admitting they're not tough enough to get into that kind of game with the Leafs. IF you heard that from your coach, what would you think?

I'm torn. It goes against my fabric to say it's okay to let a guy run your goalie like that. But, if the Wild's as soft as Yeo evidently thinks, then I can see where he doesn't want them trying to be something they're not. And, of course, they did get even where it counts the most (even though the Buds got a point).

There is a pretty vocal subset of Wild fans that is deriding the team for being so soft, though.
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So let me ask you this. Yeo has said the Wild is not built to play the rough game. Basically admitting they're not tough enough to get into that kind of game with the Leafs. IF you heard that from your coach, what would you think?

I'm torn. It goes against my fabric to say it's okay to let a guy run your goalie like that. But, if the Wild's as soft as Yeo evidently thinks, then I can see where he doesn't want them trying to be something they're not. And, of course, they did get even where it counts the most (even though the Buds got a point).

There is a pretty vocal subset of Wild fans that is deriding the team for being so soft, though.
This has been Detroit's playbook for years. If the opposing team takes liberties punish them on the powerplay. With one of the best powerplays in the league it's a system that could work for Minnesota. I'm not a fan of it personally, but it's proven to be successful for some teams in the past.
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So let me ask you this. Yeo has said the Wild is not built to play the rough game. Basically admitting they're not tough enough to get into that kind of game with the Leafs. IF you heard that from your coach, what would you think?

I'm torn. It goes against my fabric to say it's okay to let a guy run your goalie like that. But, if the Wild's as soft as Yeo evidently thinks, then I can see where he doesn't want them trying to be something they're not. And, of course, they did get even where it counts the most (even though the Buds got a point).

There is a pretty vocal subset of Wild fans that is deriding the team for being so soft, though.
He's right that the most important thing is not to allow yourself to be provoked into losing the game. Positive is that they kept their composure because they were the better team on the ice.

However, when he says that if they respond to Kadri after he runs over the goalie it will create a cycle where they can't keep responding, he's probably wrong. He said that they'll go after someone else if you respond and so on. But you just can't be scared about that. Plainly you can't be afraid what will happen if you defend your teammates. And Kadri felt free to go after Granlund later, so you can equally say that not responding will embolden the opposition to try more stuff like that.

Yeo looked a little flustered when responding to these questions. I don't think the lineup is particularly soft in the forward position but the defense is pretty mild. They might want to add something there before playoffs.
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This has been Detroit's playbook for years. If the opposing team takes liberties punish them on the powerplay. With one of the best powerplays in the league it's a system that could work for Minnesota. I'm not a fan of it personally, but it's proven to be successful for some teams in the past.
The Wild is tied for 4th best PP in the league, so...okay. But they went oh-fer last night, including the 5 minute major (one shot on that one, are you kidding me?). It was just a frustrating night to be a Wild fan. Like I said, the lizard brain part of my brain wanted to see someone F Kadri up, but the intellectual part of my brain understood why they didn't. But I thought the Wild was timid and not-sharp the rest of the game and, if that's attributable to them knowing they're not tough enough to play that game then they've got a problem because now every other team that is willing to play them tough has a book on how to play them. The Wild barely squeaked out that game. That won't happen every time.
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This has been Detroit's playbook for years. If the opposing team takes liberties punish them on the powerplay.
Pretty much what Pommenville said after the game. Ít´s easy to be physical if you take penalties and that he doesn´t think it even counts as being physical if it ends up costing you penalties.

Only reason that game wasn´t a blow-out was because Minny´s PP sucked pretty hard and they couldn´t capitalize. They completely dominated Toronto again.
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He's right that the most important thing is not to allow yourself to be provoked into losing the game. Positive is that they kept their composure because they were the better team on the ice.

However, when he says that if they respond to Kadri after he runs over the goalie it will create a cycle where they can't keep responding, he's probably wrong. He said that they'll go after someone else if you respond and so on. But you just can't be scared about that. Plainly you can't be afraid what will happen if you defend your teammates. And Kadri felt free to go after Granlund later, so you can equally say that not responding will embolden the opposition to try more stuff like that.

Yeo looked a little flustered when responding to these questions. I don't think the lineup is particularly soft in the forward position but the defense is pretty mild. They might want to add something there before playoffs.
Great points, and I agree.
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I'm torn. It goes against my fabric to say it's okay to let a guy run your goalie like that. But, if the Wild's as soft as Yeo evidently thinks, then I can see where he doesn't want them trying to be something they're not.
Why does standing up for your tendy mean trying to play a rough style of game? Zenon Konopka is right there, not to mention half a dozen other guys who could knock Kadri on his ass. Hell, Matt Cooke plays for them, and born-again saint or not, he's perfectly capable of exacting a little retribution. I think if a guy takes that shot and one of your players runs him or instigates a fight, everyone on the ice knows why it happened.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:07 PM   #33
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Only reason that game wasn´t a blow-out was because Minny´s PP sucked pretty hard and they couldn´t capitalize. They completely dominated Toronto again.
I'd have to say Bernier was another reason why it wasn't a blow out. He was very good last night.
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Why does standing up for your tendy mean trying to play a rough style of game? Zenon Konopka is right there, not to mention half a dozen other guys who could knock Kadri on his ass. Hell, Matt Cooke plays for them, and born-again saint or not, he's perfectly capable of exacting a little retribution. I think if a guy takes that shot and one of your players runs him or instigates a fight, everyone on the ice knows why it happened.
Okay, that's a fair point, too.
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Pretty much what Pommenville said after the game. Ít´s easy to be physical if you take penalties and that he doesn´t think it even counts as being physical if it ends up costing you penalties.

Only reason that game wasn´t a blow-out was because Minny´s PP sucked pretty hard and they couldn´t capitalize. They completely dominated Toronto again.
But you are right, the Wild PP was not a factor at all. Terrible.
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3 games suspension as per TSN news headline and story.

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He's a Leaf. 1 game, tops.
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As a Leaf fan, I don't mind this punishment at all. It was definitely a dirty hit on Backstrom.
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I'm shocked Minnesota's coach didn't get fined for playing his goalie in that situation.
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