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JiriHrdina · 05-03-2006, 11:55 PM

Good distraction tonight after the heartbreak of the Flames game.

So did anyone else watch Lost? WTF? Two characters offed in the same eppy? What the hell is Michael doing? Is he now one of "the others"?

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 05-04-2006, 07:39 AM

I asked the same question. My wife thinks he's still working to get Walt back--but then why would he help Henry escape? Very confusing.

Sometimes, I think THE WRITERS don't even know what's going to happen...

ken0042 · 05-04-2006, 07:39 AM

I'm still about 3 weeks behind, but I saw at the begining of the episode a flashback with Ana-Lucia as a cop in LA. She was at the morgue looking at a body that had been shot. I had to record it off the Halifax feed because the 7:00 and 10:00 would conflict with the recording of the game. Was that the same new episode you are reffering to?

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 05-04-2006, 07:49 AM

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I'm still about 3 weeks behind, but I saw at the begining of the episode a flashback with Ana-Lucia as a cop in LA. She was at the morgue looking at a body that had been shot. I had to record it off the Halifax feed because the 7:00 and 10:00 would conflict with the recording of the game. Was that the same new episode you are reffering to?

Er... yes. And you may wish to plug your ears and shout "LALALA" while reading this thread, unless you like spoilers.

CrzyCanuck · 05-04-2006, 07:58 AM

Both Anna and Libby were arrested for DUI while shooting the show. This is an easy way to get rid of the problem.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 05-04-2006, 08:03 AM

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Both Anna and Libby were arrested for DUI while shooting the show. This is an easy way to get rid of the problem.

Do you have a link for this info?

Clarkey · 05-04-2006, 08:37 AM

Didn't Michael point the gun at his chest and shoot right at the end? It looked like he killed himself but then on the preview for next week it showed him alive.

FlamesAddiction · 05-04-2006, 08:40 AM

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Didn't Michael point the gun at his chest and shoot right at the end? It looked like he killed himself but then on the preview for next week it showed him alive.

I think he just shot himself to make it look like there was struggle.

I have a feeling that Libby will live. She was shot where she was holding a pillow. It wouldn't surprise me if something was underneath it.

As for the other girl, if you ever check out the Lost forums, someone said a while ago that the producers and some of the actors couldn't get along with her, and that they would kill her off as soon as the story allowed.

transplant99 · 05-04-2006, 09:21 AM

I DVR'd this thing, then go to watch it and it seems the episode was about 5 minutes longer than what was advertised. So i missed the final 5 minutes beginning when Michael was heading towards the vault with gun in hand...

So...anyone able to let me know how i can find that somewhere online and DL it?

PM if necessary.

JiriHrdina · 05-04-2006, 09:34 AM

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Do you have a link for this info?

I don't have a link but it is true. Michelle Rodriquez in fact took a plea for a few days in the clink instead of doing a bunch of community service.

Another interesting casting note. The actor that plays Walt has reached puberty and is apparently having a little growth spurt. This complicates things because the show's story is done in real time and the cast has only been "LOST" for a few months now. So how do you explain Walt's sudden change in appearance? Maybe the kid never makes it back.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 05-04-2006, 10:16 AM

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I don't have a link but it is true. Michelle Rodriquez in fact took a plea for a few days in the clink instead of doing a bunch of community service.

Another interesting casting note. The actor that plays Walt has reached puberty and is apparently having a little growth spurt. This complicates things because the show's story is done in real time and the cast has only been "LOST" for a few months now. So how do you explain Walt's sudden change in appearance? Maybe the kid never makes it back.

The "Others" gave him a secret dharma initiative growth hormone, perhaps?

I'm sure they can pull it off. It wouldn't even be the part of the show that makes the least sense.

What I'm wondering about is Henry's comment that "you're the killer, Ana Lucia." Are we supposed to start wondering if "The Others" are actually the good guys?

Mike Oxlong · 05-04-2006, 10:29 AM

I think Michael has been brainwashed/drugged by the others into either getting Henry back, or to set the survivors up for a trap.

I think he goes in there gets them all fired up for a little war, telling them they are all old and not well armed, and sets them up for a huge trap.

Someone said it earlier but I think Michael shot himself in the arm to try and blame things on Ana Lucia and Libby somehow.

Pretty good episode last night. Looking forward to next week's.

CaptainCrunch · 05-04-2006, 10:36 AM

After the Flames debacle last night, a friend and myself had an interesting discussion.

In a interesting way they're potraying the current group of castaways as good and the others as evil. However they have kidnapped children who are innocent, took cindy who was a good person, and the one they had locked up almost seems to be trying to recruit Locke.

If you look at all of the other members of the tribe, they've all committed fairly serious sins. What if the tribe is evil, and the others are good and offering redemption.

It goes back to the whole they're in pergetory theory and they have to be redeemed to get out.

It also explains Walt shooting Anna Lucia, since she has been fairly brutal throughout the whole time she's been there.

Or am I reaching

NuclearFart · 05-04-2006, 10:39 AM

I've only been able to watch the show in spurts when I have the time, but have "the others" actually killed anybody? Sure they've removed people, but who knows what they do with their captives, maybe they're doing nice things to them. And yeah in the previews, they showed Micheal running around with a cast on, so he probably just shot his arm to justify his gangster bang bang. I also think Libby is still alive or at least salvageable; why else focus on the pillow so much, when every other character who has been shot, you see blood and bullet holes in the chest.

And what ever happend to that crazy guy from the surgeons past (seen running stairs in the stadium) who was hanging out in the vault? He just kind of ran off into the bush with an AK47.
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NuclearFart · 05-04-2006, 10:51 AM

Captain crunch, you might be on to something. Children are typically viewed as innocent, so that would justify the others removing them. The current crop on the beach has and is also demonstrating alot of the seven deadly sins too - lust, envy, gluttony, greed, pride, anger. Not sure about sloth though, maybe it applies to Micheal being an absent father to Walter.

Something that goes against it though is Micheal shooting people for his chance at redemption, or at least getting Walter back. Or maybe this was a test, and he is failing miserably by succumbing to greed.
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Clarkey · 05-04-2006, 10:51 AM

Maybe that's why they want the children, because they are innocent and relatively free of evil intentions.

CaptainCrunch · 05-04-2006, 10:57 AM

On the killing thing, he shot Anna Lucia, and then accidentially shot Libby. There's nothing really out of the picture of good eliminating evil.

The only one that hasen't really sinned is Locke, and he kinda represents Christ coming off of the cross (Wheelchair) and walking in the land of sinners.

I also wouldn't be surprised if this others leader that they keep talking about who's so brilliant is the doctor from the mental ward that Hurley came from.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 05-04-2006, 11:15 AM

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I also wouldn't be surprised if this others leader that they keep talking about who's so brilliant is the doctor from the mental ward that Hurley came from.

Maybe--but I think we can all agree that of the shocking coincidences in this series, Hurley and Libby being in the same psych ward was the biggest stretch. I don't think Lost is ever going to "make sense"--we just have to go with the flow.

As for the Others killing people--they tried to kill Charlie, by hanging him; they blew up the raft that the escapees were on, and left them for dead. I'm not buying into the "they're good" theorem unless the series does some SERIOUS 'splainin.

cheung31 · 05-04-2006, 08:55 PM

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Do you have a link for this info?

http://www.tv.com/story/story.html&story_id=4395&q=lost

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Despite J.J. Abrams' assurances to the contrary, it appears drunk driving is enough to get you axed, or in this case shot, off of the show Lost. The characters Ana Lucia, played by Michelle Rodriguez, and Libby, played by Cynthia Watros, were both gunned down in the dramatic conclusion to last night's episode.

The shocking murders might not come as too much of a surprise to Losties. In December, the same two actresses were arrested by Hawaiian police for driving drunk. There were also rumors that Michelle Rodriguez was difficult to work with. The show had already killed off one actress, Maggie Grace, who was also rumored to be difficult.

Mike F · 05-04-2006, 10:32 PM

Despite what the story above states, this interview with two of the shows head honchos says everything was according to an original plan.

"Carlton: Then she got this DUI and Damon and I looked at each other and we were like, "Oh, great. Everybody is going to think we're killing her off because she got a DUI." But there really wasn't anything we could do about that. I mean, the story was set. We had made plans. With Lost, we think it out well ahead of when we actually shoot it. We thought about altering our plan, but [this] was in fact what was best for the show. The fact that she got a DUI would come and go and what would live on would be the show, and our plan was still the best plan for the character. Ironically, we actually thought about changing it the other way around once [the DUI] happened, but it really was the best story. We wanted to tell the best story"