Rob Ford Transgressions Thread

[FlamesAddiction]

They need to release crackin' (video).

If he is not going to hold himself accountable and do the honorable thing, then it's time to let the public in on the evidence.

[Bertuzzied]

So there is no way council can remove Ford as mayor? I guess the only way he can be gone is if he gets arrested?

[Boblobla]

I want a Rob Ford bobblehead.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Maybe next council meeting they should set up an intervention instead. Would be entertaining as hell.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by MattyC

As long as they haven't while being an elected official, I'm not sure how that's relavent.

If Ford wasn't the mayor of a city, no one would give a crap if he smoked crack. But he is and has WHILE IN OFFICE. I just don't understand how the Ford's can't see the difference.

"I've made mistakes just like everyone, blah blah blah" Everyone's not the elected mayor of one the world largest cities you idiot. You want to smoke crack? Pot? Drink excessivily? Great, don't be a mayor.

For me, that's not even the worst part. It's the constant lies and deceptions.

I never did (a)...
But I'm sorry and I'll never do it again.
Ok, I did (a), but I never did (b)...
But I'm sorry and I'll never do it again.
Ok, I did (b), but I never did (c)...
But I'm sorry and I'll never do it again.

I just goes on and on. You can't believe a word out of his mouth. Which you kinda need out of your elected officials.

The other part that bugs me is he thinks an apology is sufficient. Sometimes it is, but not always. Often, you have to make amends, you need to fix your mistakes. Even kids know this.

He seems to think that doesn't apply to him.

Lastly, it's very obvious he has a substance abuse problem. Possibly just with alcohol, but it's affecting his job. Even taking out right and wrong, and justice and punishment, it's obviously affecting his job and his decision making.

[oilyfan]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

So there is no way council can remove Ford as mayor? I guess the only way he can be gone is if he gets arrested?

Even then no, he basically has to be convicted and sent to prison for him to be removed. There is really no mechanism in place

[GGG]

Well the other way to remove him is if he doesn't show up for work for x number of days without notice. So what city council needs to do is instead of attacking him throw him a Rob Ford is the best Mayor Party. A 3 or 4 day bender with all the fixins. You just need councilors to keep him drunk enough not to go work until the time is up and he is removed as mayor. Someone on council needs to take one for the team and party it up Rob Ford style.

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

I want a Rob Ford bobblehead.

Same.

[pylon]

This is what I don't get. All he needs to do, is negotiate the rights to his autobiography and film rights, and he will be set for life, and can step down. He is clinging to this job like he desperately needs the money or something. Anyone with any dignity would stepped down.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by pylon

This is what I don't get. All he needs to do, is negotiate the rights to his autobiography and film rights, and he will be set for life, and can step down. He is clinging to this job like he desperately needs the money or something. Anyone with any dignity would stepped down.

He's already set for life, his family is rich. He truly wants to be mayor.

I do believe he truly thinks he is doing what is best for the city. However, I'm not letting him off the hook morally with that, he's ego is obviously in control and he has an inflated sense of worth. He sees it as a battle of right vs wrong and he is entrenched on the 'right' side vs all those who would take him down, and ruin the city in doing so.

I don't know if if it's personality style, or the fact he's been in a position of wealth and power most of his life or what, but it's obviously he has a skewed sense of what is going on, what his actions have done, and just what he needs to do to help the city.

As you said, someone with dignity would step aside. More to that, I would say, even someone with a modicum of perspective, would still take the leave of absence, work on their issues (however serious they think they are) and give the city some time to heal and the process sometime to sort it all out. Then they can come back and continue 'saving this city every dime, and working for the people'. But even in thinking they were 'right', they'd still see that leaving for the time being is best for the city. They would suck it up, take their lumps, and come back later. For the city.

He's not doing that.

He thinks he's doing what is best for the city, but most people can see he is not. It's only his ego that convinces him of this.

[sureLoss]

Judge released more findings

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/13...-investigation

TORONTO - Rob Ford’s staffers told Toronto Police shocking details about booze, drugs and even a suspected prostitute in the mayor’s City Hall office, according to a media lawyer who has seen the redacted sections that have been ordered unsealed.

The bombshell information is contained in police interviews that will be released to the public after Justice Ian Nordheimer ruled Wednesday that some blacked-out portions of the information to obtain a search warrant into the affairs of Ford’s friend Alexander Lisi can be made available.

Among the redacted information to be released are interviews with former Ford staffers Mark Towhey, David Price and George Christopoulos, according to media lawyer Iain MacKinnon.p

[You Need a Thneed]

This is going to get significantly worse yet, for Ford, before it gets better for him, IMO.

[Senator Clay Davis]

According to the documents, MacKinnon said, two staffers expressed concern to Christopoulos about Ford’s use of alcohol, including drinking and driving. Mayor’s staff said they figured Ford had an issue with alcohol and/or prescription drugs and needed to straighten himself out, the documents say. Towhey was fired because he tried to give Ford advice that the mayor didn’t want to hear: He’s in denial. Christopoulos said he resigned because Ford is incapable of taking direction and doesn’t trust anyone.

Some of the most startling allegations concern the night of March 17, 2012.

Former special assistant of communications Isaac Ransom told police, according to MacKinnon, that he was summoned to City Hall about 9 p.m. on St. Patrick’s Day in 2012 and found Ford there with a few people including a woman he believed may be an escort. He said Ford had drank half of a 40 oz bottle of vodka and was talking about getting hammered and getting laid that night.

His staff tried unsuccessfully to convince him not to go to Bier Markt, according to Ransom. He said he did manage to stop Ford from smoking pot in his office before he left. He said he’s never seen him do cocaine.

MacKinnon said that according to the documents, a waiter at the Bier Markt told investigators that he believed Ford had snorted cocaine in a private room that night.

The waiter said he saw Ford and a woman with their heads down, trying to hide what they were doing, and then heard “two sniffs,” according to the documents. He was told by a Ford staffer not to tell anyone what he had seen - which he said confirmed for him that he had seen the mayor do coke.

From the SureLoss article. I mean how much more incredible is this story going to get? Hotboxing the mayors office? Drinking and driving? Coke and getting laid? What a story.

[malcolmk14]

Yeah that article is pretty damning. What a disaster, it sounds like he's an alcoholic and he needs serious help.

[jschick88]

@ddale8 As the Star has reported, looks like the police information to be released this afternoon will contain more bombshells.

[Cole436]

This is amazing.

[octothorp]

Sounds like another Ford speech coming in the council meeting!

http://www.rogerstv.com/page.aspx?li...1030&lve=39538

[octothorp]

Heh, Ford moves that all council-members undergo drug testing by December 1, with Ford paying for it. The chamber erupts in laughter.

[troutman]

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/13...-investigation

Some of the most startling allegations concern the night of March 17, 2012.

Former special assistant of communications Isaac Ransom told police, according to MacKinnon, that he was summoned to City Hall about 9 p.m. on St. Patrick’s Day in 2012 and found Ford there with a few people including a woman he believed may be an escort. He said Ford had drank half of a 40 oz bottle of vodka and was talking about getting hammered and getting laid that night.

His staff tried unsuccessfully to convince him not to go to Bier Markt, according to Ransom. He said he did manage to stop Ford from smoking pot in his office before he left. He said he’s never seen him do cocaine.

MacKinnon said that according to the documents, a waiter at the Bier Markt told investigators that he believed Ford had snorted cocaine in a private room that night.

The waiter said he saw Ford and a woman with their heads down, trying to hide what they were doing, and then heard “two sniffs,” according to the documents. He was told by a Ford staffer not to tell anyone what he had seen - which he said confirmed for him that he had seen the mayor do coke.

[Daradon]

A lot of allegations, which I'm sure many saw coming (I know I did), and believe, just from what we've seen so far, but unfortunately that's all they are. Allegations. Nothing that can be proven. And nothing that will force Ford to resign, or admit to anything. At least, it doesn't look like it. He'll just deny deny deny.