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Old 11-06-2013, 12:25 AM   #21
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Too bad... He was getting his game back with stajan back in the line up. I think backlund should take a shot at the left wing in place of glencross... Might allow him to get his offense going. Put baertschi back in and maybe call up knight or Reinhart to centre the 4th line
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:25 AM   #22
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I agree with everything you said except that he did change one facet of his game - his physicality. He used to hit much more and skate much more. He seems to not be moving as much out there, and seems to play a way less physical of a game than he used to. Offensively and play-wise - definitely agree. Inconsistency is what makes him a bargain player. If he was consistent, he would be a high-salaried player. That is who he is.
What people need to realize is that not many of your "goal scorers" play 3 zones. If you consistently waste 25 seconds of your 45 second shift to get back (where there is 4 of your guys back there that couldn't score 25 goals if they dreamt of it) there is nothing left.

If he gets his shots, he's going to score a lot. He's been fighting it so far this year and his pace is still amazing. Once he hits stride, he's going to be a threat game in and game out.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:04 AM   #23
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I hear ya Chris, but the problem is that Glencross has been the player who makes those soft backhand passes which leads to goals, I mean, it would be okay if he didn't make those stupid moves which hurts the DEFENSIVE side of the game (Because he doesn't help the D at all), then I'd be OK with him, but that's not the case.
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I was fairly certain it was a middle body injury; heart.
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Meh. Hope he gets better soon, but the way he plays some nights it would be nice to see some youth to take his place. If Glencross is supposed to be a leader on this team why doesnt he play like one. Nuff said.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:29 AM   #26
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I want Glencross to get better soon and come back mad. He'll either be mad and score a bunch of goals and play well (because the only time he really seems to play inspired is when he gets a fire lit under his arse) or he'll come back mad and ask to be traded. Either way, win win.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:00 AM   #27
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If Curtis turns into that two-way energy player again and holds onto the offense too, I'll be the first one to be beyond happy for it.
I wouldn't hold my breath. The guy will turn 31 in a month...he is not going to get back his youthful energy. This is as good as it gets...streaky goal-scorer who gets you points when he's on, and disappears when he's off. Love it or leave it.

That's the primary reason why I think the Flames should do whatever they can to make him waive that NTC, and get something for him while they can (and while other teams still want him). No matter how many goals he gets, he doesn't have much of a long-term future with this team at his age. We're just watching a good asset waste away.
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Nah, he really hasn't. He still makes lazy plays. He stupid soft backhand clear lead directly to a goal and he did the exact same thing a couple shifts later that thankfully didn't cost us a goal against again.

Guy just doesn't have the punch in his game he used to.
He's one of those guys that drive a coach insane. You can see how good he is. But then he chooses to be a passenger. I understand that guys have off nights. But when you're in the position he is in on this team he cannot afford to be lazy. Or make poor decisions. He does both with alarming regularity.
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He's one of those guys that drive a coach insane. You can see how good he is. But then he chooses to be a passenger. I understand that guys have off nights. But when you're in the position he is in on this team he cannot afford to be lazy. Or make poor decisions. He does both with alarming regularity.
Obviously not Hartley as through his disinterested play he has not missed a game, a shift or even pp time.

He is the 2013 Rene Bork. If we can ship him out we do it, and hope that the other GMs are only looking at the stat line and not watching the actual game.
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What people need to realize is that not many of your "goal scorers" play 3 zones. If you consistently waste 25 seconds of your 45 second shift to get back (where there is 4 of your guys back there that couldn't score 25 goals if they dreamt of it) there is nothing left.

If he gets his shots, he's going to score a lot. He's been fighting it so far this year and his pace is still amazing. Once he hits stride, he's going to be a threat game in and game out.
In what world is that in line with reality? He's not a "goal scorer," he can put some pucks in the next every season but he's not some offensive power that can afford to lack intensity in the defensive and neutral zone. You're making ridiculous excuses for a player that has not ever had success when he was playing a fiery 3-zone game.

What's scoring a lot to you? 25 goals? 30? If he can hit either of those, great, but he's simply not worth keeping around if he doesn't bring any other intangibles. 25 goal scoters aren't some magical unicorn that we can't easily replace through trade, and if the ONLY thing he brings is 25 goals? No big efforts, no fire, no defensive prowess... then he deserves every ounce of criticism he gets on this board.

I mean really, "his pace is still amazing"... in what world man? I want to live in a place where the standard for amazing is most people's standard for average.
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Any chance we can keep the debates about his play to the threads that exist to debate about his play so that this thread can be about his injury?

So no other news yet to report? Leaving the team isn't a good thing - probably safe to say that he is out for at least the two remaining road games?

Hope it isn't serious - the injuries are starting to mount
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If he was injured enough to leave mid way through the road trip, I doubt he'll be back for it since there are only 2 games left on it. Even if they cleared him for practice, why would he leave hom just to practice?
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Any chance we can keep the debates about his play to the threads that exist to debate about his play so that this thread can be about his injury?

So no other news yet to report? Leaving the team isn't a good thing - probably safe to say that he is out for at least the two remaining road games?

Hope it isn't serious - the injuries are starting to mount
Says the guy who is currently discussing the different types of fans in different cities and countries in a thread about a player getting scratched.

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Just when Glencross was starting to show some life. This has been a terrible first 15 games for Glencross. JMO he has only played well in 4 of them. Looked like he got his knee knocked along the boards. He still needs to be a candidate for being traded this season at some point.
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No injury update today?
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He's one of those guys that drive a coach insane. You can see how good he is. But then he chooses to be a passenger. I understand that guys have off nights. But when you're in the position he is in on this team he cannot afford to be lazy. Or make poor decisions. He does both with alarming regularity.
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In what world is that in line with reality? He's not a "goal scorer," he can put some pucks in the next every season but he's not some offensive power that can afford to lack intensity in the defensive and neutral zone. You're making ridiculous excuses for a player that has not ever had success when he was playing a fiery 3-zone game.

What's scoring a lot to you? 25 goals? 30? If he can hit either of those, great, but he's simply not worth keeping around if he doesn't bring any other intangibles. 25 goal scoters aren't some magical unicorn that we can't easily replace through trade, and if the ONLY thing he brings is 25 goals? No big efforts, no fire, no defensive prowess... then he deserves every ounce of criticism he gets on this board.

I mean really, "his pace is still amazing"... in what world man? I want to live in a place where the standard for amazing is most people's standard for average.
In watching the games, you can see that he isn't on his game as of yet, most will go a lot further and say he's actually quite far from his "A" game. He is a pure goal scorer who in past years wasn't asked to be a 1st line threat, but always showed promise and scoring prowess.

He has 2 GWG's thus far, his contract is of Super Value Menu 'lore and he's a local boy - don't understand the hate. Especially when there is endless patience for players on this team who dream of 25 goals a career, never mind a season?
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In watching the games, you can see that he isn't on his game as of yet, most will go a lot further and say he's actually quite far from his "A" game. He is a pure goal scorer who in past years wasn't asked to be a 1st line threat, but always showed promise and scoring prowess.

He has 2 GWG's thus far, his contract is of Super Value Menu 'lore and he's a local boy - don't understand the hate. Especially when there is endless patience for players on this team who dream of 25 goals a career, never mind a season?

I'm sorry, but the only year the Glencross was a "pure goal scorer" was 2001-02 with the Brooks Bandits.

The reason for all the hate is because if he's not scoring, he doesn't bring any other intangibles to the game. He doesn't back check, hardly finished his checks, and routinely makes lazy plays that either break up the offensive rush or fail to exit the defensive zone.

To say that he's a goal scorer and is just off his game is complete and utter sh&t! Now I"m not comparing him to the likes of Zetterberg or Datsyuk, but if you look at other players whom Glencross is of similar talent level (Kesler, Brown, Benn, Marchand), what Glencross differentiates is his desire to compete.

I'm sorry but watching Glencross out there, he almost seems content with losing. Which is just unacceptable.
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I'm sorry, but the only year the Glencross was a "pure goal scorer" was 2001-02 with the Brooks Bandits.

The reason for all the hate is because if he's not scoring, he doesn't bring any other intangibles to the game. He doesn't back check, hardly finished his checks, and routinely makes lazy plays that either break up the offensive rush or fail to exit the defensive zone.

To say that he's a goal scorer and is just off his game is complete and utter sh&t! Now I"m not comparing him to the likes of Zetterberg or Datsyuk, but if you look at other players whom Glencross is of similar talent level (Kesler, Brown, Benn, Marchand), what Glencross differentiates is his desire to compete.

I'm sorry but watching Glencross out there, he almost seems content with losing. Which is just unacceptable.
This isn't about Glencross for him, it's about Backlund, always was, always will be, no matter the thread. Read his last sentence.

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