11-03-2013, 07:14 PM
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#421
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First Line Centre
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I probably got permanently barred from Edm for writing this article back in Jan. '13:
Case For Trading Nail Yakupov
A day later Dave Staples of Edm Journal wrote this rebuttal:
Trade Nail Yakupov? Not if you want to win a Stanley Cup.
Not trying to do a "i told you so", but interesting to reflect back.
Last edited by cral12; 11-03-2013 at 07:18 PM.
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11-03-2013, 07:32 PM
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#422
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cral12
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Haha
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4. The Oilers don’t have any glaring needs. With Schultz, Ladi Smid and Jeff Petry, the Oilers have three outstanding-to-solid young d-men to build around, so the notion of trading for expensive Dion Phaneuf or less proven Jake Gardiner isn’t enticing. In Montreal, P.K. Subban is going to have a large price tag, too, and I know this will mark me as an Oilers fan, but I don’t love Subban’s game more than Petry’s game, certainly not when you factor in Petry’s low contract.
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11-03-2013, 07:56 PM
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#423
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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^^ That Subban/Petry quote.... Good Lord.
How does that guy have a job as a journalist?
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11-03-2013, 08:36 PM
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#424
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In the Sin Bin
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Easy. He's paid to blow sunshine up Oiler fans' butts.
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11-03-2013, 08:54 PM
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#425
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The students at Eakins' daughter's Elementary school can do a better critical analysis of the Oilers than anyone working in the media in Edmonton.
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11-03-2013, 09:43 PM
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#426
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I would rather the Oilers have Petry than Subban as well.
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11-04-2013, 07:31 AM
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#427
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In the Sin Bin
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Staples was indirectly right about one thing. After they drafted him, there was no point trading Yakupov. He's like a new car. Loses half its value as soon as you take it off the lot. Nail's highest value in trade was before he was drafted. He's been a depreciating asset ever since.
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11-04-2013, 08:34 AM
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#428
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As soon as Jones fell to Nashville at the draft, I suggested it was probably time for the Oil to make their splash - Yakupov-plus for that pick.
Oilers fans - "you don't trade a 1st overall for a 4th overall!"
Yikes.
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11-04-2013, 11:56 AM
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#429
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Staples was indirectly right about one thing. After they drafted him, there was no point trading Yakupov. He's like a new car. Loses half its value as soon as you take it off the lot. Nail's highest value in trade was before he was drafted. He's been a depreciating asset ever since.
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Agreed. And not only that, but when you buy a new car and try to sell it 1 month later, any prospective buyer is going to be skeptical of what's going on. At this point you would almost have to take a discount to his value in order to trade him.
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11-04-2013, 12:06 PM
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#430
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the Yakupov should get more increased ice time especially on the PK. 
Lowe and Catface should both let it be known in a held press conference the Yakupov is available for trade. That always works out well.
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11-04-2013, 12:13 PM
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#431
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Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
Agreed. And not only that, but when you buy a new car and try to sell it 1 month later, any prospective buyer is going to be skeptical of what's going on. At this point you would almost have to take a discount to his value in order to trade him.
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11-04-2013, 12:32 PM
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#432
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Staples was indirectly right about one thing. After they drafted him, there was no point trading Yakupov. He's like a new car. Loses half its value as soon as you take it off the lot. Nail's highest value in trade was before he was drafted. He's been a depreciating asset ever since.
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Any draft pick works this way. As soon as a pick is made, the player picked is worth less than the draft pick value is, until they have proven themselves in the league.
The Oilers still value him as a first overall pick. However, no other team in the league values him like that at this point.
Think of it this way, let's look at Bärtschi. He was drafted 13th, and you might argue he would have gone a little higher had the draft been done again now. How many of you think that the Flames would get an 8th overall pick (or so) straight up for Bärtschi? I don't, despite Bärtschi being several years closer to fullfilling his potential than he was at the time of the draft. If somehow such a deal was on the table (Bärtschi for the 8th overall pick in 2014), fans and likely management on both sides would look at the deal and say "no way!"
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11-04-2013, 12:44 PM
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#433
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Originally Posted by The Fonz
^^ That Subban/Petry quote.... Good Lord.
How does that guy have a job as a journalist?
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Yeah. Wow. No kidding.
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11-04-2013, 12:48 PM
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#434
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Norm!
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Yeah, I don't get it, Petry is ok, but he seems to get massively over rated for some reason.
Maybe because he's the only Oiler skater that can find his own end without a GPS
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11-04-2013, 12:52 PM
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#435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
^^ That Subban/Petry quote.... Good Lord.
How does that guy have a job as a journalist?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the media up there gets preferential treatment and favours if they overhype Oilers talent to keep a haze around the team that keeps the average fan from seeing the reality of the situation. There is no way that building should be more than half full if the fans actually realized what was going on with the organization as the only way to elicit change and get Lowe & Friends sent packing is with their wallets choosing not to pay for tickets. However filling the building every game for the worst product in the NHL pretty well gives Katz a free pass to ham it up with his childhood heroes.
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11-04-2013, 12:56 PM
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#436
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Norm!
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I imagine Edmonton Journalists have to take a educational course on the Oilers before they're allowed to report on them
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11-04-2013, 01:11 PM
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#437
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Yakupov has skills. He needs proper development and coaching. If he had been drafted onto a team that didn't desperately need him to produce, things might have worked out differently. Still too soon to give up on him.
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11-04-2013, 01:20 PM
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#438
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Steve Bozek
Yakupov has skills. He needs proper development and coaching. If he had been drafted onto a team that didn't desperately need him to produce, things might have worked out differently. Still too soon to give up on him.
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Great. Having skills is one thing, but hes shown no willingness to actually work.
He just wants to show up, score his goals and go home. Thats not particularly helpful to the team.
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11-04-2013, 01:25 PM
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#439
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Locke
Great. Having skills is one thing, but hes shown no willingness to actually work.
He just wants to show up, score his goals and go home. Thats not particularly helpful to the team.
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I agree with you, but there are few coaches around who might be able to knock some sense into him
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11-04-2013, 01:30 PM
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#440
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Originally Posted by Steve Bozek
I agree with you, but there are few coaches around who might be able to knock some sense into him
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I think you're right, I just dont think the stars are going to align for him.
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