[News] Semyon Varlamov Arrested on Domestic Violence Charge - Page 6 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

strombad · 10-31-2013, 03:56 PM

Just on the note of crossing the border, I don't actually think it's going to have any effect even if he is guilty now that I think of it. That stuff hasn't affected too many guys over time, the most recent example being Chris Brown who plead guilty to felony assault and toured very shortly after.

They might have to suspend him for a couple months for things to be worked out, unless he is given permission to travel to Canada, but I don't think that it affects him long term.

Pointman · 10-31-2013, 04:00 PM

For what it worth, I found an old russian interview by Varlamov where he says, that during the seasons he only eats what his dietologist tells him to eat. Which reinforces the claim that he's not drinking during the season. And the overall feel of several of his interviews is that he is very professional and disciplined guy.

KootenayFlamesFan · 10-31-2013, 04:35 PM

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For what it worth, I found an old russian interview by Varlamov where he says, that during the seasons he only eats what his dietologist tells him to eat. Which reinforces the claim that he's not drinking during the season. And the overall feel of several of his interviews is that he is very professional and disciplined guy.

That sounds good, but all he had to do is drink one time and do something stupid one time. You can't say that he didn't do it in the past so that means he never, ever, will. None of us know for sure, we'll find out eventually when more info comes out.

blankall · 10-31-2013, 04:52 PM

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$5000 bail bond? Probably not as severe as it originally sounded.

Probably low flight risk though. If he doesn't show up for games, he doesn't get paid. His massive salary is acting as its own bond.

Miniac · 10-31-2013, 05:53 PM

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She is gonna get ####ing paid.

####, come beat me up Varmy, you can do it for 500k.

Wow get some help.

FlamesFanStrandedInEDM · 10-31-2013, 08:04 PM

Its times like these we remember NHL players are still pro-athletes.

chockfullofgoodness · 10-31-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by strombad

Just on the note of crossing the border, I don't actually think it's going to have any effect even if he is guilty now that I think of it. That stuff hasn't affected too many guys over time, the most recent example being Chris Brown who plead guilty to felony assault and toured very shortly after.

They might have to suspend him for a couple months for things to be worked out, unless he is given permission to travel to Canada, but I don't think that it affects him long term.

Bob Probert had some problems with crossing the border back in the day, but it got worked out. So, who knows, Varlamov might be able to do the same before he goes to trial.

Resolute 14 · 10-31-2013, 08:28 PM

Probert's problem was different though. He was a Canadian citizen, and his worry was that upon leaving the US, American authorities would never let him back in.

chockfullofgoodness · 10-31-2013, 08:40 PM

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Probert's problem was different though. He was a Canadian citizen, and his worry was that upon leaving the US, American authorities would never let him back in.

Yeah, that's right. I remember him not travelling with the Wings into Canada and it made the news.

sureLoss · 10-31-2013, 09:15 PM

The girlfriend gave a press conference, video here:
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...-laughed-while

indes · 10-31-2013, 09:24 PM

So 2 days after this vicious traumatic experience she agrees to do a press conference??

I don't want to proclaim his innocence but this doesn't scream victim to me.

Pointman · 10-31-2013, 09:37 PM

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That sounds good, but all he had to do is drink one time and do something stupid one time. You can't say that he didn't do it in the past so that means he never, ever, will. None of us know for sure, we'll find out eventually when more info comes out.

She claimed that he beat her several times in the past and had alcohol problems. Which doesn't go along with what others are saying and what was known about him before.

KootenayFlamesFan · 10-31-2013, 09:52 PM

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She claimed that he beat her several times in the past and had alcohol problems. Which doesn't go along with what others are saying and what was known about him before.

Nobody knows what happened except the two of them. His friends can all say he wouldn't do something like what he has been accused of, but they weren't there for it, either. And an 'alcohol problem' to her may just means that he doesn't drink often, but when he does he gets out of control.

I don't know......I'm not taking either side. I just think that for now it's her word versus his, and it doesn't matter what his friends or family has said about his character in the past it doesn't mean he is perfect. Definitely too early in all of this to say who is guilty or innocent.

Pointman · 10-31-2013, 09:56 PM

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The girlfriend gave a press conference, video here:
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...-laughed-while

"It happened many times back in Yaroslavl during lockout. He was drinking a lot. There were a lot of witnesses. I called police several times, but they did nothing. Once we had a fight on Maldives. And now this. All in all, it happened five times."

Doesn't sound truth to me. Can she produce russian witnesses or some russian police reports on that.

Pointman · 10-31-2013, 10:00 PM

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Nobody knows what happened except the two of them. His friends can all say he wouldn't do something like what he has been accused of, but they weren't there for it, either. And an 'alcohol problem' to her may just means that he doesn't drink often, but when he does he gets out of control.

I don't know......I'm not taking either side. I just think that for now it's her word versus his, and it doesn't matter what his friends or family has said about his character in the past it doesn't mean he is perfect. Definitely too early in all of this to say who is guilty or innocent.

I would be taking the same side, if his friends were saying that he's "nice guy" and "kind person" and such. I wouldn't buy it. However, they say precisely that he's not drinking during the seasons. It's way more factual - as long, as it is true, of course. It can be checked out and I think they should question Roy and Avs teammates. You can not question Roy on whether Varlamov is "nice guy" or not. However, you can question him and teammates whether he was drinking or not. And she said precisely that he was drinking "a lot and often". This is factual thing that can and should be checked out.

KootenayFlamesFan · 10-31-2013, 10:08 PM

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It's way more factual - as long, as it is true, of course.

It's opinion, not factual.

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And she said precisely that he was drinking "a lot and often". This is factual thing that can and should be checked out.

The only two people that know what happened between the two of them are.........the two of them.

Listen, I hope she's wrong. I hope what he's being accused of is false. At the same time, I'm not going to buy the whole 'he told me he never drank so that means he never drank, and that's a fact.'

We don't know.

Pointman · 10-31-2013, 10:19 PM

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It's opinion, not factual.

The only two people that know what happened between the two of them are.........the two of them.

Listen, I hope she's wrong. I hope what he's being accused of is false. At the same time, I'm not going to buy the whole 'he told me he never drank so that means he never drank, and that's a fact.'

We don't know.

By factual I meant that it is a claim about a fact, that can be proven right or wrong. I am not claiming that he is not drinking, because I do not know. However, since nobody knows what happened and it can not be proven one way or another, we and the judge will have to see whether his and her stories are consistent and make sense. If he is drinking a lot, he should have been seen in local bars. Question them. Question local beer shops. The reason why his drinking habits are important is that it seems like the only part that can be convincenly proven one way or another. As a girlfriend of a drinking man, she should have no problem naming few bars and few beer shops where he was regular. And I am not saying he is innocent I do not know yet. If she would not be able to name his fave bars and shops though - it will be clear as day that she is lying.

KootenayFlamesFan · 10-31-2013, 10:27 PM

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If he is drinking a lot, he should have been seen in local bars. Question them. Question local beer shops.

You can drink without having to be in a local pub. Like I said earlier, maybe he doesn't drink very often, but when he does he gets a little crazy.

The only ones that know are him and her. And if it just comes down to his word versus hers then he probably won't be punished.

But it is still far too early. We do not know all the details yet.

Pointman · 10-31-2013, 10:50 PM

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You can drink without having to be in a local pub. Like I said earlier, maybe he doesn't drink very often, but when he does he gets a little crazy.

The only ones that know are him and her. And if it just comes down to his word versus hers then he probably won't be punished.

But it is still far too early. We do not know all the details yet.

We obviously do not know details this far. However, his drinking habits can be proven. And she did say that he drinks a lot and often. She also said that that night he was drinking from 2pm till 6am. That's a lot of alcohol. Where did he buy it? They live together for a year, she should know where he is buying. Ask their sale people. Do they know a star as big, as Varlamov has bought so much alcohol from them? Check out accounting record. Did they ship so much alcohol to one person? Being his girlfriend she should have no problem saying where and when he bought that much alcohol and then it is easy task to prove it true or false.

Cleveland Steam Whistle · 10-31-2013, 11:16 PM

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We obviously do not know details this far. However, his drinking habits can be proven. And she did say that he drinks a lot and often. She also said that that night he was drinking from 2pm till 6am. That's a lot of alcohol. Where did he buy it? They live together for a year, she should know where he is buying. Ask their sale people. Do they know a star as big, as Varlamov has bought so much alcohol from them? Check out accounting record. Did they ship so much alcohol to one person? Being his girlfriend she should have no problem saying where and when he bought that much alcohol and then it is easy task to prove it true or false.

Are you suggesting she should be researching these details at this point. Not her job to know where her husband is buying his alcohol (if he is) that is making him #### faced (if he was). You really think she should be running around trying to solve these issues, I'm sure it's the las thing on his mind if she can see he is tanked.

Also, I'm willing to wager next to no one in Denver recognizes who he is. Your average hockey players not named Joe or Patrick likely have little recognition on the street there, especially the goalie who's face is always covered.