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Poe969 · 10-21-2013, 08:24 AM

he's pouting about not being captain. I hope that helps him realize why he isn't the captain.

Erick Estrada · 10-21-2013, 08:28 AM

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There were definitely some interesting comments this morning from Rhett Warrener about Glencross' current attitude. He mentioned he thinks that Glencross is stung from not being selected captain and is trying to get over it.

I like his cap hit. I don't like his attitude. I like when he's playing how he should be playing, but with all that said, I would have no problem giving his "A" to someone else. I doubt it happens, so hopefully his attitude gets adjusted soon.

That was just a theory of Rhett's. I have a hard time believing that not being named captain would affect his effort and if that is the case then maybe he should wave his NMC.

Glencross has always been an up and down player and IMO he's started the season on a down note but he has spent the majority of the season with Street centering him which essentially turned that line into a 3rd 4th line. He needs to play with better players to be effective offensively. Just have to be patient and see if he can get out of this funk.

Ashasx · 10-21-2013, 08:30 AM

Lol Rhett Warrener again. His attitude since retiring has completely changed my view of him as a player.

strombad · 10-21-2013, 08:41 AM

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Lol Rhett Warrener again. His attitude since retiring has completely changed my view of him as a player.

You mean his consistent honesty and his valuable insight into the game?

Or him liking the drink and hating work?

Anduril · 10-21-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That was just a theory of Rhett's. I have a hard time believing that not being named captain would affect his effort and if that is the case then maybe he should wave his NMC.

Glencross has always been an up and down player and IMO he's started the season on a down note but he has spent the majority of the season with Street centering him which essentially turned that line into a 3rd 4th line. He needs to play with better players to be effective offensively. Just have to be patient and see if he can get out of this funk.

Even with Street he should be able play a 200 ft game with speed and grittiness. We've not really seen either. Stempniak had also been centered by Street yet all we see from Stempniak is 120% every night all over the ice.
Scoring in bunches is what the average 2nd liner does but taking mental breaks is not what you want from anybody.

kyuss275 · 10-21-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mango

There were definitely some interesting comments this morning from Rhett Warrener about Glencross' current attitude. He mentioned he thinks that Glencross is stung from not being selected captain and is trying to get over it.

I like his cap hit. I don't like his attitude. I like when he's playing how he should be playing, but with all that said, I would have no problem giving his "A" to someone else. I doubt it happens, so hopefully his attitude gets adjusted soon.

Bad theory by Rhett's. Pretty much everybody knew that Gio would be captain after last season. Didn't Feaster even hint that all the dressing room guys voted for Gio as next captain in the end of year exit interviews? I can't see Glencross sulking all summer over this.

My theory is that he is still playing like a top 6 veteran of the last couple of years. A veteran that did not want to play a 200' game and take off shifts at a time. Now with a new group that is buying into a 200' game, a player that is not into 100% effort all the time sticks out like a sore thumb. He will get it together.

Buff · 10-21-2013, 09:10 AM

The current team is not a good fit for Glencross. He is most effective when he isn't an on-ice leader or expected to be the best player on his line. He is putting too much pressure on himself to be this team's go-to guy and 1st line left winger.

BigFlameDog · 10-21-2013, 09:20 AM

IMO a lot of you have it wrong....I think he cares a ton and is trying his arse off. We all know a guy like that....when he puts too much pressure on himself everything flips on it's head. Gripping the stick, playing out of the comfort zone trying to make things happen, trying things out of the skill set.

Then he gets pissed at himself and wears his emotions on his sleeve so everyone thinks he's pouting.

Just my opinion but that's the way I see it...maybe its just because I have seen it happen to a couple amazing guys over the years...hell it even happens with 9 to fivers.

FlamesAddiction · 10-21-2013, 09:20 AM

I don't see anything from Glencross that we haven't seen in past seasons. He has always been streaky in production and effort, and he has always seemed to have a bit of a grumpy attitude when things aren't going well for him.

I think it was easily looked past when we were all expecting him to be a 3rd/4th liner, but now that we are expecting more, these flaws stand out.

Tinordi · 10-21-2013, 09:21 AM

Players like Glencross are so maddening because they try to play outside of what makes them successful. Glencross cemented himself in this league as a grinding smash mouth forward with decent hands. Note he's trying to play the role of skilled winger with out the skill. Unfortunately for him, hr needs to go back to what he's good at to find success but that takes considerably more physical effort. For a guy who's cashed in with good money and an NMC does he really have the incentive to do that?

EVERLAST · 10-21-2013, 09:29 AM

Glen x has more and more made me think of Rene Bork.
Play when I wanna
Skate when I wanna
All the tools.....no drive and very selfish and sulky.

Stempniak is doing a much better job showing rookies what needs to happen more consistently....and even he has his spells but the effort is there.

Glencross needs to go and soon.
Nobody will want him soon enough.

Yes....he is this years whipping boy

Poe969 · 10-21-2013, 09:33 AM

Quick question for everyone.... If Glencross was a free agent, do you think teams would give him more then he's getting now? People talk about his contract like it's the best in the league, it was good when he played well but if he keeps this up do you think he'll be worth more then what he's getting? There are lots of players who play like him who could be signed in July so I think if we can cash in on him soon we should.

kyuss275 · 10-21-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Poe969

Quick question for everyone.... If Glencross was a free agent, do you think teams would give him more then he's getting now? People talk about his contract like it's the best in the league, it was good when he played well but if he keeps this up do you think he'll be worth more then what he's getting? There are lots of players who play like him who could be signed in July so I think if we can cash in on him soon we should.

If and when he becomes UFA he will get a hell of a lot more.

Poe969 · 10-21-2013, 09:51 AM

what makes you think he will? Just asking. Teams aren't going to pay a hell of a lot more if he keeps playing the way he's been playing. Not a lot of teams will over pay him because he played well a couple of years ago

BigFlameDog · 10-21-2013, 09:59 AM

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what makes you think he will? Just asking. Teams aren't going to pay a hell of a lot more if he keeps playing the way he's been playing. Not a lot of teams will over pay him because he played well a couple of years ago

Scouts and GM's are generally smarter than fans when it comes to hockey....I know it sounds ridiculous, most don't make decisions based on being pissed at a player on their home team.

So yeah some GM is out there thinking they would pay a lot more to put Glencross on a second line with no pressure and no 'A'....just go play kid, do what you do.

This dude is putting too much pressure on himself....he needs to crack a couple Pilsners before the game and try to relax.

Poe969 · 10-21-2013, 10:04 AM

See, I don't think a successful team is going to put him on a second line. He's a third line player who's played like he's a second line player at times. Good teams aren't going to put him on the second line.

Enoch Root · 10-21-2013, 10:07 AM

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what makes you think he will? Just asking. Teams aren't going to pay a hell of a lot more if he keeps playing the way he's been playing. Not a lot of teams will over pay him because he played well a couple of years ago

What?

Last year he was on a 30 goal pace, after 24 an 26 the prior 2 years

I haven't looked, but I would bet that there are less than 50 guys who have scored more goals than Glencross in the last 3 years - probably way less (I would guess 30 - 35).

He would get at least $4m per as a free agent today.

Think of some of the guys that have recently gotten $5m

Enoch Root · 10-21-2013, 10:08 AM

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See, I don't think a successful team is going to put him on a second line. He's a third line player who's played like he's a second line player at times. Good teams aren't going to put him on the second line.

Not only are the numbers I posted 2nd line numbers they are good 2nd line numbers.

neo45 · 10-21-2013, 10:12 AM

It goes to show how fair-weather this site is that Stempniak has become the model for consistency that Glencross should aspire to because he happens to be playing well right now.

Is there a streakier player in the league than Stempniak? Seriously? He is going to get his own thread like this one by the end of the year and everybody will be praising Glencross in it for turning his season around

These are hot/cold players people, there is a reason they aren't earning 5 million per season.

Ashasx · 10-21-2013, 10:13 AM

Look at what Clarkson got this summer. Glencross could probably get double his current cap hit on the open market.