10-20-2013, 04:09 PM
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First Line Centre
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October 20- 3 Games
Vancouver at Columbus (underway)
S-Net Van; Fs-O
Van: 5-3-1; Col: 2-5-0
Nashville at Winnipeg (6pm)
TSN-Jets
Nas: 4-3-1; Win:4-4-0
Dallas at Anaheim (6PM)
Dal:3-4-0; Ana:6-1-0
Last edited by krynski; 10-20-2013 at 04:13 PM.
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10-20-2013, 04:17 PM
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First Line Centre
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If Winnipeg and/or Dallas win, they surpass the Flames in the WC standings. A win from Nashville puts them 3 points out of reach of CGY. A win from Vancouver would put them 5 points ahead of Calgary.
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10-20-2013, 04:23 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Gaborik scores, 1-0 for CBJ
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10-20-2013, 06:00 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Curtis McElhinney is having a great game for the Jackets. Good to see.
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10-20-2013, 06:19 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Ducks up 1-0. Selanne scores, 3rd game in a row. It started in the Flames game.
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10-20-2013, 06:38 PM
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First Line Centre
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Columbus beats Vancouver.
The canucks overload one side of the ice and just play way too aggressive on that side. Teams are starting to realize they can look up and deliver breakouts up the middle or cross-ice instead of banking it up the wall and have instant odd-man rushes.
Winning goal tonight came on that exact play.
Also, hope canucks fans are enjoying Chris Higgins. Guy has absolute hands of stone.
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10-20-2013, 06:39 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by morgin
Curtis McElhinney is having a great game for the Jackets. Good to see.
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Jackets beat Canucks 3-1 which is great but I have mixed feelings about McElhinney considering our goalie situation isn't great and we could use him.
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10-20-2013, 06:42 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red John
Columbus beats Vancouver.
The canucks overload one side of the ice and just play way too aggressive on that side. Teams are starting to realize they can look up and deliver breakouts up the middle or cross-ice instead of banking it up the wall and have instant odd-man rushes.
Winning goal tonight came on that exact play.
Also, hope canucks fans are enjoying Chris Higgins. Guy has absolute hands of stone.
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its not overloading one side, it's aggressive D pinches and they have done it under AV from time to time in the past to great success
Detroit, Boston, Chicago off the top of my head do it and a few others as well and if you have the right personnel (mobile D) it works quite well
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10-20-2013, 06:49 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
its not overloading one side, it's aggressive D pinches and they have done it under AV from time to time in the past to great success
Detroit, Boston, Chicago off the top of my head do it and a few others as well and if you have the right personnel (mobile D) it works quite well
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I guess that must be the secret to Vancouver's red-hot 5-4-1 start... ?
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10-20-2013, 06:50 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
its not overloading one side, it's aggressive D pinches and they have done it under AV from time to time in the past to great success
Detroit, Boston, Chicago off the top of my head do it and a few others as well and if you have the right personnel (mobile D) it works quite well
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They do overload one side though on the forecheck - whatever side the Dman with the puck is on.
It works great against less skilled teams who insist on trying to use the wall on every breakout. Thing is it requires fast forwards who are adept at getting initial pressure and disrupting the rhythm of the breakout. Also it relies on hoping the other team sticks to set plays instead of using the net D on breakouts and making smart outlets.
AV's style was more about owning the neutral zone and disrupting zone entries setting up massive counterattacks with a weak side D trailer coming in back door.
The 3 teams you mentioned, plus AV's canucks, were all much faster and more skilled up front to be able to pull off that system.
This year's canucks already look exactly like Tortorella's Rangers did - a grinding team that generates a lot of low-percentage shots that will win some games but never be elite.
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10-20-2013, 06:52 PM
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Franchise Player
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Bluejackets have a real interesting roster. Some really nice size and speed throughout the lineup. One exception is Cam Atkinson, a small highly skilled player who comes in at 5'8, 174 pounds. That's only five pounds heavier than Johnny Gaudreau. Ironically, Atkinson is a Boston College alum and was also a high scorer. He left BC the year before Gaudreau joined the Eagles.
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10-20-2013, 07:15 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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The boy from Bonavista, Newfoundland is making his first start for the Jets.
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10-20-2013, 07:17 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
The boy from Bonavista, Newfoundland is making his first start for the Jets.
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Who's that? I don't think i've heard that phrase ever before.
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10-20-2013, 07:20 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by krynski
Who's that? I don't think i've heard that phrase ever before.
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Once you hear it, you never get tired of hearing it again and again.
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10-20-2013, 07:20 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red John
They do overload one side though on the forecheck - whatever side the Dman with the puck is on.
It works great against less skilled teams who insist on trying to use the wall on every breakout. Thing is it requires fast forwards who are adept at getting initial pressure and disrupting the rhythm of the breakout. Also it relies on hoping the other team sticks to set plays instead of using the net D on breakouts and making smart outlets.
AV's style was more about owning the neutral zone and disrupting zone entries setting up massive counterattacks with a weak side D trailer coming in back door.
The 3 teams you mentioned, plus AV's canucks, were all much faster and more skilled up front to be able to pull off that system.
This year's canucks already look exactly like Tortorella's Rangers did - a grinding team that generates a lot of low-percentage shots that will win some games but never be elite.
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Agree with your analysis except that I think that's a result of lacking top 6 forward depth.
The Sedins look as good as they ever have, but unfortunately the Canucks are playing and paying David Booth in a top 6 role. If they'd been able to buy him out or trade him this summer and moved Schneider for top 6 depth, they'd be a much better club.
Kesler to me look like Jokinen, a guy who is better suited to playing the wing. Big, Fast, Skilled, but he's a shooter who creates his own offense, not a playmaker. If Vancouver got a strong second line centre to move Kesler to the wing, they'd have something similar to what San Jose has with Burns on the wing. As it stands, they have 1.5 lines of offense, with the defense making up that other .5.
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10-20-2013, 07:33 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sweden
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I see that Blue Jackets won. Good day!
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10-20-2013, 07:55 PM
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I think Nashville is a very under rated team... Probably because they don't have any superstar forwards. Yet they have what might be the best defence in the NHL with guys like weber, jones, Josi, Ellis and Klein. Plus one of the best goalies in the world in with Rinne. They really are built from the net out,
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10-20-2013, 08:13 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Thank you Curtis McElhinney! 
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10-20-2013, 08:26 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Those Dallas jerseys will forever bug me. The green is just wrong for them, and they should have kept the gold.
 
Gross ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Awesome
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10-20-2013, 08:40 PM
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First Line Centre
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I actually really like them now having seen them in person and on the ice.
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