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10-11-2013, 12:04 PM
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RealtorŪ
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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10-11-2013, 12:09 PM
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good article...thanks for sharing.
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10-11-2013, 12:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Estonia
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Thanks for posting, I guess you won't mind if I just copy and paste the text here.
The Calgary Flames are burning a little brighter than most people expected them to in the early goings of this NHL season. At last year’s trade deadline, the organization finally signaled the beginning of a rebuild with the trade of team captain and franchise cornerstone Jarome Iginla, and the hockey world was quickly crowded with bleak forecasts of this year’s “long season in Calgary” from pundits, experts, and armchair general managers across the sport. Such predictions continued right up until the start of the season. Yet now those same critics are speaking in tones of surprise about a Calgary squad that has thus far displayed an admirable work ethic, dressed a roster of impressive youngsters, and enjoyed widely unexpected success.
The Flames finished the preseason with a respectable 4-2-1 record, highlighted by the unprecedented scoring talents of 23-year-old Lance Bouma. Bouma’s four goals in four straight games earned him a spot on the opening-night roster for the start of his fourth season with the Flames, one in which he’ll be aiming play all 82 games for the first time in his NHL career. But preseason results are generally taken with a grain of salt, a trend that was, in the Flames’ case, exacerbated by the mixed results from the goaltending carousel of returner Joey Macdonald, KHL stand-out Karri Ramo, and Swiss-leaguer Reto Berra; no netminder was particularly impressive on a consistent basis. Nevertheless, when the Flames announced their opening roster, the starter’s reins were given to Ramo, leaving Berra as the odd man out with MacDonald set to back up Ramo.
Ramo welcomed his new assignment with a 35-save performance in Calgary’s season debut, a showing that was unfortunately overshadowed by the Flames surrender of multiple three-goal leads in a 4-3 shootout loss to Washington. In spite of the disappointing result, the game was one of positives for the youthful Flames, who played a determined game, driving the net and outskating opponents with commendable regularity. Although the Capitals dynamic offence exposed the inexperience inherent of a young roster, the Flames were successful in their goal of establishing an identifiable and respectable resolve, and showed that they are a team that has no intention of writing the season off in the name of a rebuild. What’s more is that the team brought that determination to each of its subsequent three games, and was rewarded with at least one point in each contest. These last three games must have been reassuring for head coach Bob Hartley; since Ramo’s impressive opener in Washington, the Flames are 2-0-1, and Hartley started MacDonald in net for every one of those contests. If MacDonald and Ramo continue to compete in this manner for the duration of Hartley’s search for a distinguished number-one goaltender, the storyline in Calgary’s crease could become extremely intriguing.
With only four of 82 games in the books, to say that the Flames’ accomplishments thus far mark any sort of trend would be foolish. Their start to this season is merely a demonstration of what this team is capable of, provided that it is developed in the correct manner. But Calgary’s play in the infancy of this season is also empirical evidence for the case against the derision with which Calgary’s prospect pool has long been regarded.
Sean Monahan has been stellar; with five points in as many games, including a team-leading three goals, the sixth pick of the 2013 NHL draft is tied with veteran Jiri Hudler for the team lead in points heading into Friday night, when the Flames host the New Jersey Devils. Sharing a line with Monahan, 2011 first-round pick Sven Baertschi heads into Friday with a goal and an assist on the year already. Baertschi has impressed in flashes, scoring three goals during a five-game emergency call-up two seasons ago, and recording nine points in the final seven games of his injury-shortened 2012-2013 campaign. These two youngsters are already showing exciting chemistry, both with each other and with veteran line-mate Lee Stempniak. Bouma has also shown that he is eager to continue contributing, with one goal through four games, while TJ Brodie continues to showing improving levels of maturity on the blueline.
Perhaps most gratifyingly for Flames fans, Mikael Backlund is off to an excellent start, with one goal, two assists, and a plus-two rating prior to the Flames’ tilt with New Jersey. It was hoped that the 24-year-old Backlund, selected by the Flames in the first round of the 2007 NHL draft, would quickly developed into a top-line center for Calgary. Instead, Backlund spent the majority of his first five NHL seasons mired in underachievement and underproduction. Last season, however, Backlund made promising progress, scoring eight goals and 16 points in 32 games, earning himself an off-season contract extension worth three million dollars over two years.
Are the Calgary Flames Stanley Cup contenders? To call it highly unlikely is generous. Are they playoff contenders? Most likely not, especially given the make-up of their new Pacific division. But that does not mean that they are a team doomed to wallow in insurmountable failure for the entirety of the season. The Flames will play an 82-game regular season, as will 29 other NHL teams, and all 30 organizations will experience the highs and lows that inevitably disperse themselves over the course of a season. Yes, the Flames are rebuilding, and yes, it can be a painful process. But if Calgary’s players can mature as individuals, develop as a team, and grow an identity for themselves, they will be able to consider the 2013-2014 campaign a success. And they just might surprise a few people along the way.
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10-11-2013, 12:25 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Lol KevanGuy... Well now I don't need to click on their link... oh wait, that's what you intended?
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10-11-2013, 12:43 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KevanGuy
Thanks for posting, I guess you won't mind if I just copy and paste the text here.
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I don't mind.
We're just getting started, and I won't post every link here obviously, but I thought that it might be helpful for people to know we exist.
By copying the text, people know it exists, and can judge the quality for themselves. If they want to read more like it, the articles will be coming soon... so thanks for helping.
Our goal isn't a one time click, but to be quality worth reading and checking out on a regular basis....
Last edited by Commandant; 10-11-2013 at 12:47 PM.
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10-11-2013, 01:01 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Commandant
We're just getting started, and I won't post every link here obviously, but I thought that it might be helpful for people to know we exist.
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Helpful to who? You? What about where you're posting the links?
You don't think it's a bit rude to try and get help from other people without even asking them if it's ok to exploit a resource they've spent a decade building for your own gain?
More quality Flames content is a good thing, but it doesn't hurt to have some respect for other people and ask before putting your sign on their lawn.
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10-11-2013, 01:07 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Remove the link in his signature too for good measure.
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10-11-2013, 01:09 PM
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Franchise Player
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I enjoyed the read.
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10-11-2013, 01:16 PM
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GOAT!
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Am I missing something here?
The site in question is a sports site with articles, features, etc. This site is a hockey-related message board. Where's the conflict?
If someone posts an entire article from another site, they're advised not to do it and their post is replaced with just a link to the article, so the site that it's from gets credit and clicks... but if the guy that wrote the article posts the link to it, he gets shunned and has his link removed and his entire article posted here instead by a Mod?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a dick and I have no idea what kind of back story there is or isn't here, but this is all just seeming a bit over the top, no?
(For the record, I haven't read the article, nor do I know or have any connection to whomever wrote it.)
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10-11-2013, 01:31 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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There's no "conflict", it's the act of trying to get free advertising from someone else that's done all the work ahead of time.
If I make a poster for my endeavour and put it up at a McDonald's drive through without asking for permissions or (more likely) paying for the ability, they would rightly ask that I stop and at least ask permission first. Just because the drive through will get more people seeing it than putting it on my lawn doesn't make it ok.
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10-11-2013, 01:34 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I don't see the issue with Commandant posting this here. Especially because it is not like this is his first contribution to the forum.
He was providing us with updates for draft eligible players in the prospects thread all off-season but now this article is an issue?
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10-11-2013, 01:36 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by photon
Helpful to who? You? What about where you're posting the links?
You don't think it's a bit rude to try and get help from other people without even asking them if it's ok to exploit a resource they've spent a decade building for your own gain?
More quality Flames content is a good thing, but it doesn't hurt to have some respect for other people and ask before putting your sign on their lawn.
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As I alluded to, things were cleared about draft stuff prior to the draft.
Perhaps I should have checked again on this, and I apologize for not doing that, but I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed the same policy was in effect as what was there 4 months ago.
Perhaps also, a DM from a mod about removing the link, and posting an entire article of copyrighted material without asking me, would have been nice given the arrangement we had in the past, of course... I digress... and I don't want to push that issue.
My bad, I'm sorry for being such a ___________ (fill it in however you like).
And if the mods want a reciprocal link back to here in future articles or in our links section, I'd be more than happy to talk to them about that.
I apologize again, and I don't want to cause an issue... if someone wants to talk to me privately or publically, I'm open to do so.
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10-11-2013, 01:42 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by fotze
I don't understand the web game. Do these sites like flamesnation, etc end up making money? Is that the end game of some bloggers like that corey pronman? I really have no idea.
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Think the hope is it springboards you to a better journalism job.
Down goes brown got picked up by ESPN and has a book.
Kent Wilson writes articles for the Herald now.
Drunk Jays Fans got picked up by the score at one point.
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10-11-2013, 01:43 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Commandant
As I alluded to, things were cleared about draft stuff prior to the draft.
Perhaps I should have checked again on this, and I apologize for not doing that, but I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed the same policy was in effect as what was there 4 months ago.
My bad, I'm sorry for being such a ___________ (fill it in however you like).
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I wasn't aware of that, I just saw the thread and jumped in with the general reasoning I'd use for anyone that "self promoted" without checking, sorry about that. If you thought you already had permission then you aren't a _______.
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10-11-2013, 01:44 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Think the hope is it springboards you to a better journalism job.
Down goes brown got picked up by ESPN and has a book.
Kent Wilson writes articles for the Herald now.
Drunk Jays Fans got picked up by the score at one point.
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In addition, Bleacher report, Fansided, and others have been subject to multi-million buyout deals by bigger corporate media entities. Some people go in with those big dreams in mind.
Don't get me wrong though, to be clear I have no reason to believe that is the slightest possibility for my site, we write because we are fans who like to talk sports at the water cooler, and yes there is ego involved in that we'd like to promote it to get the widest possible readership and discussion on our thoughts.
But ad revenue? Not really... it barely pays our monthly software licenses and web hosting.
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10-11-2013, 01:45 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central CA
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Well written article. Seems like the guy actually follows the Flames, unlike some of the stuff I've seen written about the team lately.
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10-11-2013, 01:45 PM
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Franchise Player
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I'd rather get updates from Last Word on Sports (Top Shelf Prospects) than the trash that is Flames Nation, or columnists like Eric Francis. These type of articles need support, and I'm happy to give it to them. It's a tough industry to find success in.
This is a message board. Let us decide which threads we enter.
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10-11-2013, 01:48 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Commandant
But ad revenue? Not really... it barely pays our monthly software licenses and web hosting.
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Yeah, I figure that's the case for most sites, so it's really not about money, to me in general it's just a principle thing. If I work hard to build up something, I don't like people trying to leverage it for their own success (whatever that means, even if success just means getting a few thousand repeat viewers), at least not without permission or reciprocation etc.
Usually if people ask us first we have no problem being ok with it, and I think we even say in the rules that links in sigs is ok.
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10-11-2013, 02:09 PM
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Franchise Player
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Sure, Photon, I can see the principle you have in mind. To be on the safe side, you should outlaw all links on CP so that nobody can benefit from the hard work you did to build up the site. In fact, nobody should link to anybody else, ever. Then the Internet will be yours, all yours!
Or, you know, you could concede that you goofed. KevanGuy posted the entire text of the article, for crying out loud. With permission, it's true — but isn't that YOU guys benefiting from someone else's hard work? Don't you think you OWE the author a link in return?
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