US Capitol Building "Attacked", Female Suspect Detained - Awful Jokes About Women ITT

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-by-2015.html

Last time I checked troll man this is 2013 not 2015

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Last time I checked troll man this is 2013 not 2015

Lay off the NRA kool-aid and open your eyes.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Lay off the NRA kook-aid and open your eyes.

Lol I'm not in the NRA, stfu and leave me alone

[chemgear]

Wow, the fact that is even remotely close seems pretty crazy to me.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Lol I'm not in the NRA, stfu and leave me alone

You're the one who bright guns into the conversation. correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounded like you were trying to argue that guns aren't that bad, when you consider all the car accident deaths.

If not, what was your point of that little statistic?

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

You're the one who bright guns into the conversation. correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounded like you were trying to argue that guns aren't that bad, when you consider all the car accident deaths.

If not, what was your point of that little statistic?

Your chart says that gun deaths are expected to outnumber car deaths in 2015. I like how gun related included suicide too. Nice little touch

[Red Ice Player]

Its inevitable. Guns don't come with airbags, antilock brakes, stability control and crumple zones. All of the engineering that goes into guns is to make them more lethal.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Your chart says that gun deaths are expected to outnumber car deaths in 2015. I like how gun related included suicide too. Nice little touch

Why? I would guess car accidents causing death also includes suicide, but once again, I'm not sure what your point is.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by T@T

Since she didn't have a weapon and had a baby in the back seat how about stay back, follow her from a distance and arrest her when she calmed down.

The vehicle itself was the weapon.

Unless, of course, you actually believe a woman with no weapon can do this:

[Hockeyguy15]

How was her car still mobile after that? Wow.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-by-2015.html

Kind of interesting chart for a lot of reasons. Gun deaths are actually considerably down from the 90s even though population has increased since then. Yet, everyone thinks things are far worse now. Also, http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...tables/table-1 shows that homicides are way down from the 90s and continue to fall. I guess police shootings, suicides and accidental deaths are causing the numbers to rise?

One thing I find funny (well, sad actually), is that if you look at any news story on motor vehicle deaths decreasing that attributes it to safety features like ESC (which has statistically reduced motor vehicle deaths by 20-30% in every country that mandated it), you can read a bunch of comments calling it BS. They all think it is some kind of liberal agenda to get people to have safer cars, and they find it very distasteful. Not only is the right wing in the US against gun control, they are also against safer cars. Also, they tend to favour wars, and are against people having health care. I guess you can't convince someone that gun control is a good idea if they are actually in favor of more people dying.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

There is probably one hell of a story here that may never be told.

She was driving a nice car, not something you might use in a Landroveresque type manner.

Her picture looks normal; heck quite friendly.

She had her one year old with her.

What could possibly have triggered the stunt she pulled?

The 12 year old palestinian kids that were strapping bombs to thier chests looked friendly as well.

Cops can't judge by looks or car types or even the fact that she had a kid with her.

All they can judge are on the actions, and it was a rampage. And because there is always the possibility of that car having a few bags of fertilized strapped to it. Or that weapon that she didn't have might have been a weapon out of view. They did what they had to do.

All the other stuff comes out in the investigation.

But not during the actual incident.

[Flaming Choy]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

How was her car still mobile after that? Wow.

I'm going to have to consider an Infiniti as my next car. Looks like it's built like a tank.

[CaptainCrunch]

If it wasn't so weird it'd make a hell of an ad campaign

Our car ran a police blockade, destroyed a cop car, smashed through government barricades and took a dozen shots before it was stopped, and the baby didn't even pop its diaper.

Infiniti we rule

[The Goon]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

There is probably one hell of a story here that may never be told.

She was driving a nice car, not something you might use in a Landroveresque type manner.

Her picture looks normal; heck quite friendly.

She had her one year old with her.

What could possibly have triggered the stunt she pulled?

Possibly post-partum depression.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle14696617/

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Possibly post-partum depression.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle14696617/

Yeah, read that last night. Today's update is that she might have been on schizophrenia meds.

Authorities investigating why a Connecticut woman rammed barricades and led police on a chase near the U.S. Capitol found medications in her apartment to treat schizophrenia and other mental disorders, a law enforcement source briefed on the investigation said Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/politi...itol-shooting/

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The vehicle itself was the weapon.

Unless, of course, you actually believe a woman with no weapon can do this:

Isn't that the car that drove into a barricade? Her car didn't touch it.

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The 12 year old palestinian kids that were strapping bombs to thier chests looked friendly as well.

Cops can't judge by looks or car types or even the fact that she had a kid with her.

All they can judge are on the actions, and it was a rampage. And because there is always the possibility of that car having a few bags of fertilized strapped to it. Or that weapon that she didn't have might have been a weapon out of view. They did what they had to do.

All the other stuff comes out in the investigation.

But not during the actual incident.

Correct me if I am wrong, but where did I say anything about the cops or their involvement?

But now that you bring it up, there have been several reports that many of the Capitol Police were not being paid as they were part of the current shut down.

Now, if they are not being paid, they shouldn't have been there as they were not legally on duty. If they were not legally on duty, and they shot this woman, whoa..... That can of worms could get ugly.


Edit, the indications that these people "were not being paid" isn't actually true after all. They ARE essential services, their pay is just "backlogged".

U.S. Capitol shooting: Capitol Police officers who risked lives currently unpaid As essential federal employees, they are exempt from furloughs tied to the government shutdown, but funding for their pay is currently backlogged.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1475736

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

Correct me if I am wrong, but where did I say anything about the cops or their involvement?

But now that you bring it up, there have been several reports that many of the Capitol Police were not being paid as they were part of the current shut down.

Now, if they are not being paid, they shouldn't have been there as they were not legally on duty. If they were not legally on duty, and they shot this woman, whoa..... That can of worms could get ugly.

I don't think there's legally or not legally on duty based on pay. These might have been volunteer officers or they agreed to work in lieu of.

We've seen police volunteer to work without pay in other cities in jurisdictions legally. I believe as long as they are in uniform and signed into a shift that's all that matters, no whether they're being paid or not

As to the top part, I don't think I meant to call you out specifically. But there's this misnomer out there that the police should have reacted based on what the woman looked like or that there was a baby in the car, and they can't really do it mostly because the primary responsibility is prevention of a much worse incident.

We've seen a pretty angelic looking teen in the Boston Bombing, we've seen young kids carrying out terrorist attacks. Even during the Vietnam war the use of babies or mock babies was used against American troops because it would add indecision to your reaction time.

At the end of the day the police and especially the ones involved in governments security is to stop something from happening no matter what the situation, then investigate afterwords.

Its the world we live in.

Again I didn't have the intention of calling you out specifically you bought up a point that I think is important to the discussion.

[Shawnski]

For a car that supposedly rammed into the Whitehouse gates, cars and other items, it sure doesn't have a lot of damage on it....