I think its just common for every family to not want to realize what their family member is capable of
Some kid in Calgary that's 12 years old has a record of armed robbery steals trucks and leads police on a merry chase and his dad cries out. He a good kid being picked on by the police.
In this case against the facts, he's an innocent victim in the whole thing he would never do this.
Some kid gets tossed in jail for using a knife to stab someone else to death in a fight. He's being picked on he's a good person, the justice system is wrong.
I don't know. I'm pretty sure if I had been that biker and got caught in a mob where a guy got nearly beat to death and I got run over. My old man might be tempted to say, I feel bad for my kid, but he was being an a%% and he put himself into this situation.
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I think its just common for every family to not want to realize what their family member is capable of
Some kid in Calgary that's 12 years old has a record of armed robbery steals trucks and leads police on a merry chase and his dad cries out. He a good kid being picked on by the police.
In this case against the facts, he's an innocent victim in the whole thing he would never do this.
Some kid gets tossed in jail for using a knife to stab someone else to death in a fight. He's being picked on he's a good person, the justice system is wrong.
I don't know. I'm pretty sure if I had been that biker and got caught in a mob where a guy got nearly beat to death and I got run over. My old man might be tempted to say, I feel bad for my kid, but he was being an a%% and he put himself into this situation.
But the difference here is there is at least someone else to blame, the people actually responsible, and the family is caught up on the SUV driver when they should be blaming the thugs. I suppose it's the guilty by association that's preventing them from seeing what clearly happened but that whole "My son/brother/husband is paralyzed because this man didn't let himself and his family get beaten by my son/brother/husband's friends" has to be up there for worst victim blaming in awhile.
I think its just common for every family to not want to realize what their family member is capable of
Some kid in Calgary that's 12 years old has a record of armed robbery steals trucks and leads police on a merry chase and his dad cries out. He a good kid being picked on by the police.
In this case against the facts, he's an innocent victim in the whole thing he would never do this.
Some kid gets tossed in jail for using a knife to stab someone else to death in a fight. He's being picked on he's a good person, the justice system is wrong.
I don't know. I'm pretty sure if I had been that biker and got caught in a mob where a guy got nearly beat to death and I got run over. My old man might be tempted to say, I feel bad for my kid, but he was being an a%% and he put himself into this situation.
I'm not sure what to think of this guy. Apparently he's in a purple shirt on a lime green bike, if I spotted the right guy it looks like he stops his bike and heads towards the initial 'accident' but it's hard to see what happens from there.
Part of me is inclined to think he engages in going after the driver, it seems to be the way the group operates and I'm tempted to lump him in with that.
The other side of me wonders if he was a somewhat decent guy among these idiots who stopped his bike and was checking on the guy who was bumped. It seems out of character for the group, but it's not that crazy for people to wind up in over their heads. Apparently he's from Mass. too, maybe he didn't even know most of this crew.
I wouldn't really blame anyone for falling on either side, I'm just not finding it so simple to say he deserved it.
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Do we know for sure the break check guy is the one who got ran over and is in the coma? Looks like when fleeing the guy hit a few different folks on different occasions.
I think even though they are in a group, each one of the motorcyclists actions need to be considered on their own. OR maybe I am wrong and the law just lumps them all together as one hive mind.
Brake check guy is not the one who was injured
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Do we know for sure the break check guy is the one who got ran over and is in the coma? Looks like when fleeing the guy hit a few different folks on different occasions.
I think even though they are in a group, each one of the motorcyclists actions need to be considered on their own. OR maybe I am wrong and the law just lumps them all together as one hive mind.
Was it the brake check guy? I thought it was some other guy later on when he was escaping that were beating on his car. To be honest, I think it was totally justifiable for him to run the guy over in that situation, and I most likely would have done the same thing.
I don't think it was the brake check guy that got plowed over.
Even if the guys intentions were good, he was in a mob attacking the SUV driver and if he was close enough to get run over then he's indistinguishable from the mob by a frightened driver.
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I don't think it was the brake check guy that got plowed over.
Even if the guys intentions were good, he was in a mob attacking the SUV driver and if he was close enough to get run over then he's indistinguishable from the mob by a frightened driver.
Yeah I definitely wouldn't expect the driver to determine if all the guys in front of him are threats, or to even look in front of him really. For me the driver holds little to no blame (the little being dependent on actions prior to the video). For the guy in the hospital it's harder, he could have been asking for it or he could have been blameless, the truth is somewhere in the middle. What I have no doubt of is that the real people who caused this are the brake check guy, who has been charged, and the others who swarmed the car and caused the driver to make the decision to drive forward.
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Do we know for sure the break check guy is the one who got ran over and is in the coma? Looks like when fleeing the guy hit a few different folks on different occasions.
Already answered but he definitely wasn't the brake checking biker. Good news is that guy has been charged for a couple things already including reckless endangerment, reckless driving and endangering the welfare of a child.
The paralyzed biker, and not saying he deserves to be paralyzed because of this, apparently has videos of himself online doing tricks in traffics, going through red lights, cutting people off, and in general being a ###### driver. http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...BaL/story.html
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In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.
According to the Boston Globe he wasn't even legally allowed to drive in his home state...
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You really think you're above everything don't you? Do you understand the difference between protecting yourself and intentionally running down people? Do you comprehend consequences? I really hope this is just an online persona, because you could be in for a rude awakening one day if you take that approach into the real world.
Sideswiping guys who are swarming you on bikes in a situation where you could be caught in traffic at any time is protecting yourself. If he knew he could drive hundreds of miles to give the police time to help him out, it would be a different situation. But in this situation I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
I only saw a handful of the large part of the bikers attacking, even at the end it was only a couple of them. Do they get immediately grouped in?
If they're in a mob that's endangering the passenger of a car then sadly yes. The driver isn't at that point really responsible for anything but getting himself and his family out of a situation of imminent danger. Its a crappy thing to say. But if your the one moderate nice guy in the clan with the rest of them doing a lynching or whipping then your part of the klan group doing the lynching and whipping.
Its the old saying if your best friend jumped off the cliff would you jump off too. By being in the middle of the melee he literally jumped off the cliff.
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Not siding with the bikers here, but presumably some of them must have had no idea what happened with brake check guy and may have felt that the SUV deliberately hit somebody and then tried to drive away and were just making sure he didn't get away. I am not sure all of them could be considered part of the initial mob.
Not siding with the bikers here, but presumably some of them must have had no idea what happened with brake check guy and may have felt that the SUV deliberately hit somebody and then tried to drive away and were just making sure he didn't get away. I am not sure all of them could be considered part of the initial mob.
True, but you don't need a group that large to ensure the driver doesn't get away. Most of them, if they were innocent, would probably have stayed behind to check on the one who was run over.
That many bikers following the car meant they were out for blood.
Not siding with the bikers here, but presumably some of them must have had no idea what happened with brake check guy and may have felt that the SUV deliberately hit somebody and then tried to drive away and were just making sure he didn't get away. I am not sure all of them could be considered part of the initial mob.
They could have just taken his plate number because unlike most of the bikers, he had one and it was visible.
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What a bunch of clowns. Don't feel sorry for any of them (bikers).
And that NY post article is complete crap. It contradicts itself several times, no bikers injured, but then quotes that a guy had both legs broke, and his daddy saying he'll never walk again. What a great piece of journalism.
Quick question for you Rover fans. Since when does side window glass break and hang in a sheet? It doesn't appear to have tint in any of the pics. Usually it shatters into itsy bitsy pieces.
And seriously, who picks on an asian dude? Everyone knows they all know Karate and can kill you with their bare hands right?
Some high end vehicles have laminated glass (like you have pictured) in the doors for sound proofing.
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