09-30-2013, 12:10 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by ClubFlames
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I've kind of felt that Sven isn't a Burke type of player and the fact that he seems a little mentally soft doesnt bode well. Didn't sound very complimentary but Sven can change that by playing well. If not I feel he should be sent down to Abbotsford as I don't think Calgary will be a good place for him to be if he's struggling.
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09-30-2013, 12:10 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I wonder if Baertschi was one of the players Burke wasn't high on when he got here, I really hope not because I think he's part of the solution
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09-30-2013, 12:10 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puppet Guy
from the little that I saw, Brian Burke was looking like he'd slept in a ditch.
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He pretty much looked like that the last conference too. I think that's just his usual "hit with a red 2x4" look.
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09-30-2013, 12:12 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
I wonder if Baertschi was one of the players Burke wasn't high on when he got here, I really hope not because I think he's part of the solution
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I don't think we have to worry any time soon about Sven getting shipped out as long as Feaster is the GM. If the day comes that Burke fires him then all bets are off.
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09-30-2013, 12:14 PM
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#26
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First Line Centre
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Im really tired of these msut compete in all 3 zones talk. Guys like Baertschi game are meant to be developed as offensive game breakers. They arent there to block shots, be defensive leaders etc.
Do you really think guys like Patrick Kane, Stamkos, Girouix, etc are told to be "solid in all 3 zones". No they are told to score. These guys are defensively strong because they play so much offense that the other team struggles to get into the other teams zone.
For guys like baertschi, a good defense should stem from an excellent offensive zone attack.
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09-30-2013, 12:18 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Wes Gilbertson @SUNGilbertson 2m #Flames Brian Burke on Sven Baertschi: "This is a guy, right now, who's focusing on one area. And even then, sporadically."
Wes Gilbertson @SUNGilbertson 1m
Burke on Baertschi, cont.: “There's three zones on the ice ... and I don't see that he's learned to play and compete in two of them.”
Wow pretty harsh. Really sounds like Burke at least wants him down in the AHL.
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09-30-2013, 12:20 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Starting to become clear with all the comments that IF Sven gets sent down to the minors its going to because the Flames feel he's applying himself selectively at this point.
Doesn't sound to me like Sven has confidence issues, or even that the Flames are worried about his production (or lack of, although that's what Sven seems to focus on), they are worried about him not showing the proper compete level frequently enough or at all parts of the game. It's true, that not all players have to be good in all ends of the ice, and offensive players don't have to be defensive experts always, but every player needs to compete as best they can in all aspects of the game. 20 year old Sven has not eared the right to only play one end of the ice yet (not that I feel any player ever does) so IF that's what's happenning, glad the Flames management all the way up to Burke are letting him know that.
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09-30-2013, 12:21 PM
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#29
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubFlames
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Sounds eerily similar to quotes just before we got rid of St. Louis and Savard.
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09-30-2013, 12:21 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Yikes, Baertschi is already a guy who comes across a little fragile emotionally (sometimes I think he cares a little too much). Not sure if that's going to go over that great.
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09-30-2013, 12:21 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I don't think we have to worry any time soon about Sven getting shipped out as long as Feaster is the GM. If the day comes that Burke fires him then all bets are off.
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Though, hasn't Feaster been more critical of Sven ever since (not coincidentally) Burke got hired? Certainly the reviews and future outlook hasn't been quite as rosy as Feaster talked previously before bringing in his new boss (recall the "untouchables" comment at the end of last season)?
Has Sven suddenly turned into a bad seed over the summer? Maybe hasn't progressed to the blueprint some would want (and that's all behind the scenes anyways, which is a black hole on info and pure speculation for most fans) but I don't doubt that there is some re-aligning in words and expectations when your new boss comes in and sees things differently than you, especially Feaster.
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09-30-2013, 12:22 PM
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#32
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Here
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I hope Baertschi uses these comments as "motivation" and doesn't "pout" because of them. From everything we have heard this year, Baertschi has not been very good at training camp, especially after saying last year that "he wants to be the face of the franchise" one day.
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09-30-2013, 12:23 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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He added more:
Wes Gilbertson@SUNGilbertson3m
#Flames Brian Burke's final word on Sven Baertschi: "But I've seen kids that age with those holes that turn into players."
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09-30-2013, 12:24 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Darren Haynes@DarrenHaynes_CP1m
On Monahan, Burke says he's open to keeping him in Calgary but there must be a commitment from the coach to play him enough to warrant it.
Darren Haynes@DarrenHaynes_CP2m
Burke pointed out that going back to junior for another year never hurts a player. If Monahan stays/goes hinges on how he plays coming up.
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09-30-2013, 12:24 PM
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#35
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J epworth kendal
Wes Gilbertson @SUNGilbertson 2m #Flames Brian Burke on Sven Baertschi: "This is a guy, right now, who's focusing on one area. And even then, sporadically."
Wes Gilbertson @SUNGilbertson 1m
Burke on Baertschi, cont.: “There's three zones on the ice ... and I don't see that he's learned to play and compete in two of them.”
Wow pretty harsh. Really sounds like Burke at least wants him down in the AHL.
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its not harsh. It might spark Sven to step up. He did have a poor camp... many CPers noticed that. he needs to go balls out.
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09-30-2013, 12:24 PM
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#36
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Who's kidding who,
Burke = GM
Feaster = AGM
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09-30-2013, 12:25 PM
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#37
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Beautiful Vancouver Island
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Interesting ..... when Burke was hired he and Feaster had a conversation about a Flame player and Burke asked Feaster what he thought of this player. Feaster said he was a future cornerstone and Burke said he didn't like him. Obviously the player in question wasn't identified but now I'm wondering if this was in reference to Baertschi ....?
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09-30-2013, 12:25 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yeah...not great comments about Sven. Guess we will see how he responds. This will either break him mentally or it will light a fire under his ass.
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09-30-2013, 12:26 PM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada!
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I think because Sven is one of our top prospects Burke may be trying to light a fire under him rather then letting hype get to the kid by telling him how great he will be. Better to be honest than sugar coat it, especially when Sven does appear to have high goals for himself.
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09-30-2013, 12:26 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Husky
Im really tired of these msut compete in all 3 zones talk. Guys like Baertschi game are meant to be developed as offensive game breakers. They arent there to block shots, be defensive leaders etc.
Do you really think guys like Patrick Kane, Stamkos, Girouix, etc are told to be "solid in all 3 zones". No they are told to score. These guys are defensively strong because they play so much offense that the other team struggles to get into the other teams zone.
For guys like baertschi, a good defense should stem from an excellent offensive zone attack.
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When your best players and leaders don't compete in all 3 zones, we get what we've had here the last 5 years.
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