Breaking Bad

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Red

Maybe the shootout wasn't a good way to end the show then? I don't know. I am just throwing it out there. The ending was a let down for me for many reasons. Cheesy gun tricks did not fit this show.

I disagree. The only thing that would've made it Rambo was if he went in and started shooting up the place himself. Instead, we got a typical Walter White approach...come up with a plan, put all the pieces in place, carefully executed that plan, with some luck. Maybe it wasn't the most realistic scene of all time but that's ok with me. I thought it was very fitting of the show and the character.

[Red]

He was a chemist not an engineer or backyard mechanic. That's why a chemistry related ending would be a better fit. Kind of like he did with Tuco.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Come to think of it, I don't think his plan went exactly how he hoped and I am little confused on how he thought it was going to play out (he did mention that he was going to take his money back as well as avenge Hank).

I don't remember exactly when he mentioned taking his money back (I think it was during his last conversation with Saul, but I could be off on that), but he didn't have any intentions of getting that money once he went back to New Mexico. He knew that the $10 million that he'd given to the Schwartzes was the only money that he'd ever be able to get to his family.

As for a bomb being more effective, that's only true if the meeting ended up being right beside the car. If they had walked 50 meters away, it wouldn't have done anything. The gun contraption would have worked to kill anyone in that general direction for a much further distance. Of course, he'd have still been out of luck if they'd had the meeting on the other side of the car, but I guess he figured that he could control the direction of the car better than he could control the distance.

[Red]

Originally Posted by gargamel

I don't remember exactly when he mentioned taking his money back (I think it was during his last conversation with Saul, but I could be off on that), but he didn't have any intentions of getting that money once he went back to New Mexico. He knew that the $10 million that he'd given to the Schwartzes was the only money that he'd ever be able to get to his family.

As for a bomb being more effective, that's only true if the meeting ended up being right beside the car. If they had walked 50 meters away, it wouldn't have done anything. The gun contraption would have worked to kill anyone in that general direction for a much further distance. Of course, he'd have still been out of luck if they'd had the meeting on the other side of the car, but I guess he figured that he could control the direction of the car better than he could control the distance.

The gun would have hit about 3 people before everyone at the other side of the room would get down. It took a few seconds to move that far, certainly enough for human instincts to kick in. But a TV show is afforded some slips, here you saw guys standing for a few seconds waiting to get shot.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Red

The gun would have hit about 3 people before everyone at the other side of the room would get down. It took a few seconds to move that far, certainly enough for human instincts to kick in. But a TV show is afforded some slips, here you saw guys standing for a few seconds waiting to get shot.

They had no idea where the shots were coming from. I think the last thing they would have anticipated was a machine gun being fired from the trunk of Walt's car.

[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by Red

He was a chemist not an engineer or backyard mechanic. That's why a chemistry related ending would be a better fit. Kind of like he did with Tuco.

He was a genius who loved chemistry. I'm pretty sure a guy who could produce the purest meth ever could figure out how to rig up a machine gun to a garage door opener.

And the machine gun totally fit the finale considering the show has always been described as Mr Chips turns into Scarface.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Hessen

I personally loved the end scene. Walt is smiling looking around the lab, remembering who he was and his true love for science.

I think he realized at the end that he in fact loved cooking meth as he himself finally confessed to Skyler it made him feel alive. The way he touched the mask and the pressure cooker you could tell they elicited fond memories. For months he convinced himself that he did all this for his family but at the end he finally realized that his life in crime in fact brought him happiness. I think he died happy that he accepted who he was and his fate.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by WilderPegasus

He was a genius who loved chemistry. I'm pretty sure a guy who could produce the purest meth ever could figure out how to rig up a machine gun to a garage door opener.

And the machine gun totally fit the finale considering the show has always been described as Mr Chips turns into Scarface.

And it fit in with some of his other MacGyvery contraptions like the magnet thing.

[V]

Weird stuff to complain about. Almost like it didn't go down the way you thought was best, so it should've gone differently.

[Wormius]

Jesse was the magnet guy.

[Red]

Originally Posted by V

Weird stuff to complain about. Almost like it didn't go down the way you thought was best, so it should've gone differently.

Not quite. My complaint is that the ending was not very creative. Basically any rookie hack writer could have come up with that. In fact, most fan predictions had it nailed down pretty good.


Expected better.

And again, didn't mind what happened. I just didn't like how it all happened.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Red

Not quite. My complaint is that the ending was not very creative. Basically any rookie hack writer could have come up with that. In fact, most fan predictions had it nailed down pretty good.


Expected better.

And again, didn't mind what happened. I just didn't like how it all happened.

I just don't agree with what you are saying at all. I found it to be very well written, and found all the scenes very intense and emotional. It was a perfect conclusion, IMO. The last episode is not the the time to spring any surprises or twists, and if they had gone that route, it would have felt cheap.

[woob]

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[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by Red

Not quite. My complaint is that the ending was not very creative. Basically any rookie hack writer could have come up with that. In fact, most fan predictions had it nailed down pretty good.


Expected better.

And again, didn't mind what happened. I just didn't like how it all happened.

Ya, a twist ending where Walt cuts a deal with the feds and has a happy ending would have been super fun times. Or maybe Walt could have totally acted out of character and shot Jesse? Or perhaps Walt could have died right away and the rest of the episode they could all stand there, tapping their feet, like Sonic on Genesis.

The ending was true to the story arc, characters, and was executed with perfection. Not every show can end in a bizare twist, comicbook guy.



I'm only poking fun but I'm also 20% serious

[trackercowe]

Just more people complaining for the sake of complaining. Just because the ending may have been "predictable" does not mean it should be called a disappointment. Breaking Bad was never really that unpredictable to begin with; instead it was methodical and clued in viewers on the major moments that were going to happen in the show. Sure it also had its share of shocking moments like Hank finding Walt's book, or Walt running over those drug dealers to save Jesse, but then there was the predictable moments like Jesse needing to kill Gale, Hank's death, and Walt taking out Gus (even in mindblowing fashion). This is a show that didn't really rely on Twin Peaks style twists or Lost's deus ex machina to surprise people. Instead it set things up for viewers, slowly played out what was going to happen, and that allowed people to engage in what was going to happen. The finalie was no different, and a twist ending (like Jesse killing Walt) would have been the wrong move imo. It was tremendously satisfying, and hit on everything the viewers asked for, which is exactly what they set out to do.

Plus like others said twists really don't work in series finalie's anyway.

[Language]

Thought it was a great finale and a fantastic conclusion to a great show.

No complaints about the ending whatsoever. They could have went with an ambiguous ending such as Jesse picking up the gun when Walt tells him to shoot him, and fading to black as Jesse contemplates whether to kill Walt or not. Then it could have been left to the audience to decide whether Jesse kills Walt, whether Walt succumbs from his wound anyway, whether the police catch him and he goes to jail, etc...

I'm glad they didn't do that and went with a closed arc concept where everything played out in front of you.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Language

Thought it was a great finale and a fantastic conclusion to a great show.

No complaints about the ending whatsoever. They could have went with an ambiguous ending such as Jesse picking up the gun when Walt tells him to shoot him, and fading to black as Jesse contemplates whether to kill Walt or not. Then it could have been left to the audience to decide whether Jesse kills Walt, whether Walt succumbs from his wound anyway, whether the police catch him and he goes to jail, etc...

I'm glad they didn't do that and went with a closed arc concept where everything played out in front of you.

Couldn't agree more. The closing of all the loose ends really fits the show, and in my opinion solidifies it as one of the greatest shows of all time. The show has never been 100% realistic, but the ending was, for the most part, grounded in reality. It was so well written, that I can look past the automated gun. Walt series of plans was very Walt. You could tell he had a moment of clarity and knew exactly what he needed to do and how to do it.

[BlackArcher101]

I don't get the people calling this predictable. Yes, the end game was predictable, but how it played out was not. I was still left wondering what the next step was and that is what Breaking Bad was all about. It would be impossible to keep that in the last scene of the series without pissing off a lot of people.

[FlamesAddiction]

I didn't like the direction of the show in general in the final seaqson. I was never really on board with Walt's cancer coming back to begin with. I thought it would have been a lot more tragic and funny in a dark way if it turned out he would have to live another 30 years. I was hoping that they would play it out that there was no escaping from the empire he built. I really wanted "bad" to win and for Walt to tranform completely into an evil mastermind.after losing everything.

The writers seemed intent on teaching a lesson though. To be clear, I liked it, but it wasn't quite what I was hoping for. I did like the finale though. In a way, Walt does "win" but he had to pay the ultimate price.

[surferguy]

I really liked the episodenand especially liked the scenes at the swartz?? house. The way he was calm, asked them and then reaffirmed control over the situation may have been my favorite of the finale. I just loved the laser pointers and the way he handled everything.

I also loved way the scene with Skylar and Walt was shot. The whole long intro with Marie on the phone that the slow pan of the camera to reveal Walt behind the beam was just great. Those were the types of things that I found surprising. I just loved the way Walt was presented/presented himself during each of his meetings to tie up the loose ends.