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Old 09-24-2013, 02:06 PM   #2041
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It's amusing to me how quickly some people jump to trash episodes or writing choices of a TV show that they've been religiously glued to for so long. As others have said, that show was ANYTHING but filler. No high action, no real supreme violence, but that was one of the most intense episodes of the show ever and I can't wait for the finale.
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One of the best episodes of the series. Loved it.

Robert Forester was a perfect choice to play Saul's 'I know a guy, Guy'.

Todd is a brutal MFer. Holy crap.
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You think Todd is showing tough love to Jesse?! If that's what you consider tough love, please let me never get on your bad side.
Well different paradigm for sure, but in a way it reflects how Jesse had unknowingly been used by Walt in the past. Also, Todd is the only reason why Jesse is alive right now.
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Well different paradigm for sure, but in a way it reflects how Jesse had unknowingly been used by Walt in the past. Also, Todd is the only reason why Jesse is alive right now.
Jesse is walking dead.
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http://ca.omg.yahoo.com/news/breakin...153505871.html

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Gilligan once offered to tell Cordasco how “Breaking Bad” would end, and the teen turned him down — because he planned to live to see it himself.
Sadly, he didn’t. But he did contribute one of the its most crucial plot developments.
Sad but the boy left his mark on the show.
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:30 PM   #2046
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It's amusing to me how quickly some people jump to trash episodes or writing choices of a TV show that they've been religiously glued to for so long. As others have said, that show was ANYTHING but filler. No high action, no real supreme violence, but that was one of the most intense episodes of the show ever and I can't wait for the finale.
It actually was almost completely by definition. The plot didn't really move forward. We already knew that Walt was in hiding, his family hated him, the Nazis were running the show, Jesse was captive and that Walt was going to go back to NewMexico... the only thing added was Skylar's legal problems. Nothing else changed.

The episode filled in details around plot aspects we were already aware of in the past episodes. That makes it filler.

I'm not saying that it wasn't interesting or necessary though. I liked the episode on it's own. I am not entirely sold of the direction of the last half of the season in general though. Still the best show on TV IMO, but not beyond criticism.
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It actually was almost completely by definition. The plot didn't really move forward. We already knew that Walt was in hiding, his family hated him, the Nazis were running the show, Jesse was captive and that Walt was going to go back to NewMexico... the only thing added was Skylar's legal problems. Nothing else changed.

The episode filled in details around plot aspects we were already aware of in the past episodes. That makes it filler.

I'm not saying that it wasn't interesting or necessary though. I liked the episode on it's own. I am not entirely sold of the direction of the last half of the season in general though. Still the best show on TV IMO, but not beyond criticism.
That's exactly how I felt. But I guess for some every new episode is better than last and you can't have other opinions.


Anyways, my crazy twist prediction is that Walt gets off somehow and is a free man at the end.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:26 PM   #2048
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Jesse and Walt have something in common. They both want all those guys dead.

Just sayin'
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Jesse and Walt have something in common. They both want all those guys dead.

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One thing they don't have in common though, Jesse wants Walt dead...
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And Walt wants Jesse dead.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:39 PM   #2051
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Yeah I can't imagine those guys teaming up. Jesse probably blames Walt for Brock's Mom (andrea?) getting shot. Definitely blames him for Jane's death. Poisoning brock obviously. Walt blames Jesse for ratting him out and ruining his life basically.

You never know I suppose.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:54 PM   #2052
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I couldn't see them teaming up per se. I could see them putting their differences aside for 20 minutes until everyone else is dead.

Walt might not have saved Jesse's gf, but he didn't shoot her in the back of the head either.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:00 PM   #2053
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I don't think the series ends with bad blood between Walt and Jesse, myself. We'll see.
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I don't think the series ends with bad blood between Walt and Jesse, myself. We'll see.
I can't see how it ends without it.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:27 PM   #2055
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I don't think the series ends with bad blood between Walt and Jesse, myself. We'll see.
Walt agrees to take the ricin if Jesse will make sure Walt's family gets the money.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:12 PM   #2056
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Walt agrees to take the ricin if Jesse will make sure Walt's family gets the money.
After they kill the Nazis or whatever they are. Then Walt takes the ricin, walks in and confesses, taking all the blame.

Goes on his own terms.

Jesse comes back with his spinoff called "Badly Broken".
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Todd will kill Lydia when she spurns his advances...
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My prediction is Walt and Jesse meet during the chaos of a Walt attack and the unspoken understanding of their common enemy being eliminated takes over. Once the skinheads are dead or on the run the last shot will be Walt and Jesse in a standoff with weapons drawn...then fade to black.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:35 AM   #2059
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Woof... cannot believe they killed Andrea! Felt like I got punched in the gut. So brutal. I knew there would be a scene where they showed Jesse they could get to Andrea and Brock, but did not think they'd actually go through with it. Thought they'd just scare him.

It's a tiny bit unbelievable that Jack and crew would go so far to help Todd in his plans to make more money/get Lydia when they feel they have enough money to begin with and were ready to waste Jesse months ago. Why would they risk getting caught by racking up more bodies especially when they finally have so much to lose? (70 mill and easy street!) But meh, it's a small detail, you know they have to advance the plot with Jesse.

Great episode, very riveting.
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