2013 Calgary Municipal Election Thread

[calgaryrocks]

DCU is Dianne Colley-Urquhart (sp?)
I don't know who Serena's dad is, but I doubt he is running in ward 12 and 14...

[getbak]

Originally Posted by calgaryrocks

I don't know who Serena's dad is, but I doubt he is running in ward 12 and 14...

http://newsroom.calgary.ca/pr/calgar...13-248506.aspx


Candidate for Public School Trustee, Wards 12 & 14: Humphreys, Greg (Serena’s Dad)

[malcolmk14]

Larry Heather's website is hilarious.

Nenshi should roll to a victory. Hail Purple!

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by getbak

http://newsroom.calgary.ca/pr/calgar...13-248506.aspx


Candidate for Public School Trustee, Wards 12 & 14: Humphreys, Greg (Serena’s Dad)

Who the heck is Serena Humphreys?

[JobHopper]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Larry Heather's website is hilarious.

Nenshi should roll to a victory. Hail Purple!

I checked out Larry's site as well and you have to give him points for being honest about what he's all about. I did get a chuckle out of a couple things there though.

So why do you think Nenshi is so great? I'm just not feeling it I guess, but he's only been mayor for 1 term so I'm open to giving politicians at least 2 terms to see how they do.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Bunk

...the Mayor released his donor list today.
http://www.nenshi.ca/campaign_finance...

Many developers and builders on that list, especially in the high amount categories. Should they be called good developers and builders?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Who the heck is Serena Humphreys?

Greg's daughter.

[Slava]

You guys are talking about crazy mayor candidate websites and haven't linked Milan Papez yet? http://progressivechangeisprogress.ca/

For aldermanic, my favorite website so far is www.alanwho.ca

[Puppet Guy]

Thanks to both Milan Papez and Larry Heather, I can't wait for the televised candidates debates.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Slava

You guys are talking about crazy mayor candidate websites and haven't linked Milan Papez yet? http://progressivechangeisprogress.ca/

For aldermanic, my favorite website so far is www.alanwho.ca

Heather is crazier than Papez, because Papez at least makes sense when he says that the downtown LRT subway should be a priority.

Who's website is hilarious.

[NuclearPizzaMan]

Originally Posted by Slava

You guys are talking about crazy mayor candidate websites and haven't linked Milan Papez yet? http://progressivechangeisprogress.ca/

For aldermanic, my favorite website so far is www.alanwho.ca

This is a big step up over Papez' non election website, http://www.milanpapezsrmilanpapezjr.ca/

EDIT: damn, he took it down. It had a really sweet picture of Nenshi with a hitler mustache, also his reasoning for how we have too many asians in calgary.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Slava

You guys are talking about crazy mayor candidate websites and haven't linked Milan Papez yet? http://progressivechangeisprogress.ca/

Spellings of the Mayor's last name within the one page website:

Nenshi
Neneshi
Neshi

[NuclearPizzaMan]

Originally Posted by fotze

You didn't take a screenshot of that? You are worse than hitler!

Ask and you shall receive!

NSFW!

Also, glory to google, holder of all knowledge.

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[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Slava

You guys are talking about crazy mayor candidate websites and haven't linked Milan Papez yet? http://progressivechangeisprogress.ca/

For aldermanic, my favorite website so far is www.alanwho.ca

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[19Yzerman19]

You know, amidst all the crazy, the thing about turning around every 3rd C-Train during high traffic times rather than letting it go to the end of the line nearly empty might make sense if it's physically do-able.

[NuclearPizzaMan]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

You know, amidst all the crazy, the thing about turning around every 3rd C-Train during high traffic times rather than letting it go to the end of the line nearly empty might make sense if it's physically do-able.

No. I'm not sure about other lines, but I'd say more than 50% of passengers on the NW train get off at Dalhousie or Crowfoot stations, turning around at Brentwood would be madness. I doubt the other lines are much different. Trains are not "nearly empty" as they approach the end of the line.

Also, turning around the train is not the fastest thing in the world. Assuming the system is operating normally, turning around trains would likely just slow it down.

Fixing the bloody information panels at Ctrain stations so they can actually be used to relay information (next train, delays) in a reliable way would go a long way.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

You know, amidst all the crazy, the thing about turning around every 3rd C-Train during high traffic times rather than letting it go to the end of the line nearly empty might make sense if it's physically do-able.

Downtown is the biggest point of congestion, turning around trains would increase the number of trains downtown, but that isn't really possible.

In reality, you wouldn't be increasing the capacity at all.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Downtown is the biggest point of congestion, turning around trains would increase the number of trains downtown, but that isn't really possible.

Yeah, but you'd at least be making it possible to get on a northbound train at Heritage during the morning rush hour.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

You know, amidst all the crazy, the thing about turning around every 3rd C-Train during high traffic times rather than letting it go to the end of the line nearly empty might make sense if it's physically do-able.

This was proposed in a post on CP a few months ago. Not possible. Here's my reply.

Short turning [...] at non-terminus stations is difficult due to the frequency of trains and the track infrastructure in most of the system.

It might help to observe how a terminus station operates during rush hour for, say, 20 minutes or a half hour. How it works is that each terminus station has a preferred side that the train will pull into if it is available. This preferred side is the inbound side of the platform (if it were a non-terminus station). Before the train pulls into the station, it will use the crossover to switch sides and pull in, the driver switches ends, and then it is already on the correct side and can just pull out of the station when the driver has gotten to the other side and the train gets clearance. If another train arrives at the station while the preferred side is occupied by a train, it will pull into the other side and do its crossover when it goes back inbound.

Very often during rush hour, there will be trains on both sides of the platform, and once in awhile a third train will show up and have to wait a short time for the train on the preferred side to clear the station and crossover area. It's not for very long that one side of the platform sits empty. From what I recall hearing from a few operators is that a short-turn usually takes 3 minutes from when the train enters the crossover until it is pulling back out of the crossover.

The problem with doing them at middle-of-the-line stations is that, even if you could do it in 90 seconds, chances are you would be holding up a train either behind you, or the train coming the other direction (the direction in which the train would be turning around to head). Also problematic is the location and number of crossovers, and especially double (scissor) crossovers. As can be seen in the (old) track diagram in spoilers below, crossovers aren't in the vicinity of many stations, and of those that are, many are not in front of platforms, as would be needed to short turn.

The time it takes to short turn, and the problems it can cause for other in-operation trains in the vicinity, is actually the reason that the direct-to-NE trains that used to be run after Flames games and other Saddledome events is no longer done. What used to happen is that a train would wait at the other platform at Victoria-Park Stampede (called "C platform"). It would load passengers, head downtown, short turn at City Hall Station and then head to the northeast.

Also, even if you could do a short-turn that didn't effect train traffic, 7th Avenue is still the bottleneck and you can't fit anymore trains along it during rush hour. Once the train short-turns, it just arrives at 7th Avenue earlier than it otherwise would and either it or the next train would be waiting to enter and no net gain is made.

Finally, the short-turning-at-non-terminus-stations suffers from the same problem as the variable trains idea. Confusion has a cost.

Spoiler!

Excerpt from this post:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...00#post4284500

[bizaro86]

Would there be any advantage to having an extra CTrain operator at the terminal stations during rush hour to turn the trains faster, or would the 7th ave capacity still prevent tighter schedules?

The trains could turn faster if the operator for the outbound was waiting on the platform at the outbound end of the train when the train arrived. Then the operator of that train would operate the next one, and so on.

Obviously this would require an extra operator per shift, but that cost is likely insignificant compared to the capital costs of increasing capacity other ways.