Breaking Bad

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Felina.

FE(iron)=Blood
LI(lithium)=Meth
NA(sodium)=Tears

[Tinordi]

It will go down something like:

Walt and Jesse serendipitously working at the same time to bring the white gang down.

But, once they realize they're in the same game the climax will be the showdown between Walt and Jesse. Both of them blame each other for killing people they love. There is no making up between these two, both are too damaged.

The show will resolve with Walt re-establishing his role as father figure to Flynn in some act of sacrifice and self-immolation.

The $10 million of Walt's clearly ends up in the Grey Matter charity.

Walt will destroy what he built by bring down the entire Madrigal ring by tipping off the police and stinging Lydia.

Jesse will have vengeance on Todd, Walt will have vengeance on Jack.

[surferguy]

Watched talking bad last night - they mentioned he was in the woods for 3-4 months and that when he left it was 2 days prior to his 52 birthday.

Also Felina is anagram of finale as stated by Vince Gilligan.

[fredr123]

Sam Page of SI's Extra Mustard figures out what game was playing in the background while Walt was talking to Flynn on the phone: http://extramustard.si.com/2013/09/2...ame-from-1998/

Edit: Lambert (@twolinepass) figured it out and posted it on twitter about 12 hours or so before the SI guy.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

It will go down something like:

Walt and Jesse serendipitously working at the same time to bring the white gang down.

But, once they realize they're in the same game the climax will be the showdown between Walt and Jesse. Both of them blame each other for killing people they love. There is no making up between these two, both are too damaged.

The show will resolve with Walt re-establishing his role as father figure to Flynn in some act of sacrifice and self-immolation.

The $10 million of Walt's clearly ends up in the Grey Matter charity.

Walt will destroy what he built by bring down the entire Madrigal ring by tipping off the police and stinging Lydia.

Jesse will have vengeance on Todd, Walt will have vengeance on Jack.

That's a pretty good take but it ignores the Ricen. It could be for Lydia but why kill her slowly and painfully? If she's sick like Brock was (or worse cause it would be a lethal dose) then she won't be much use to the police.

[polak]

Oh and as for why the nazis didn't have a camera on the cage, it could be cause they don't want the fact that they are holding a prisoner on tape? Or it's just not needed. We saw how fast they caught Jessie.

[nik-]

Am I alone in thinking that it seems like killing Lydia isn't really a priority for Walt? In the end, besides being anal, did she really do anything to outweigh providing a channel for him to make a massive amount of money?

I don't see the reason Walt kills her.

[Tinordi]

I don't think Walt has a big enough beef with Lydia to outright murder her in cold blood.

I think the Ricin is for Walt. Of note, nobody has actually died from the ricin that Walt produced in the show to-date. I think it'd be poetic if the person to actually die was the creator himself.

[polak]

Yeah Lydia doesn't need to be killed but she has to have some resolution. Or is she just there to give the Nazis a purpose to keep Jessie alive? That could very well be it too. She's had a pretty significant amount of screen time this season. Pretty much equal with the other female characters outside of Skylar (and not by much).

As for the Ricen being for Walt, why kill himself slowly and painfully like that? Whats wrong with the classic Shotgun to the dick?

[Red]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Are we watching the same show? I didn't think a single minute of that episode was filler. It certainly wasn't as action-packed as the past few weeks, but everything seemed to be critical to the plot. In fact, other than the Star Trek plot idea, I don't think there's been any filler at all this last half-season.

To me it was all a filler because at the end of this episode we are no further along than last episode. Nothing of any significance changed. Family still hates his guts. He is still on a run. Neos, Jessie, Lydia, Saul…All status quo.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by polak

Yeah Lydia doesn't need to be killed but she has to have some resolution. Or is she just there to give the Nazis a purpose to keep Jessie alive? That could very well be it too. She's had a pretty significant amount of screen time this season. Pretty much equal with the other female characters outside of Skylar (and not by much).

As for the Ricen being for Walt, why kill himself slowly and painfully like that? Whats wrong with the classic Shotgun to the dick?

Because people (his family) would think that he died of cancer instead of suicide.

[fredr123]

Seems to me that Gilligan and Co. were less subtle than usual with the "don't tell anyone about the lady at the car wash" bit and Lydia's concern about Skyler. There was all that talk about Skyler not having any bargaining chips, not having any info to give in exchange for leniency. Well, now she does. Thanks again, Todd.

[trackercowe]

Maybe Walt uses the ricin as a backup plan in case he gets captured or taken by the DEA or Nazi's.

I can't believe people are actually calling yesterday's episode a filler. Just because the episode didn't feature a brutal shootout does not mean it was filler. Heck a single mother was brutally assassinated, what more do you want? We knew that they were building up to explaining the flash forward scenes, and it's to be expected that he used Saul's witness relocation guy. People want everything explained for them, and yet they complain when something like this is.

Like Jbo I thought the episode was near perfect. Walt Jr. turning his back on his Dad was heartbreaking (the last person who he believed was on his "side"). Same goes with Andrea being assassinated due to Jesse's actions. Then we have Todd and gang hold Skyler hostage, who knew how that was going to turn out. We also see how Walt's "confession" didn't exactly "save" Skyler, a case that did need explaining. Really though this episode is all about Walt in which they needed to fill in what happened between much of this season and the flash forward, and they did that.

I honestly think some people are hoping for these episodes to disappoint just so they can pull the old "I told you so" garbage next week.

[Tinordi]

Yes I thought it was a great episode. You needed to tell the story of why Walt comes back.

At the end of the last episode he's basically burned all of his bridges, it would be the rational thing to just stay the hell out of Dodge. This episode basically makes that story. Walt is on the verge of returning but decides against it. Infact, once he realizes things are irreperable with his son does he decide to throw in the towel and turn himself in. A lonely, wasted, shell of a man with no fight left in him.

Only when his monstrous ego is challenged does he finally budge.

Excellent episode I thought.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by polak

As for the Ricen being for Walt, why kill himself slowly and painfully like that? Whats wrong with the classic Shotgun to the dick?

One possibility is that, after killing the Nazis, he could make a deal with the DA to turn himself in if Skyler gets immunity. The delayed suicide by ricin would give him time to make that happen but wouldn't leave him stuck in prison.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Maybe Walt uses the ricin as a backup plan in case he gets captured or taken by the DEA or Nazi's.

I can't believe people are actually calling yesterday's episode a filler. Just because the episode didn't feature a brutal shootout does not mean it was filler. Heck a single mother was brutally assassinated, what more do you want? We knew that they were building up to explaining the flash forward scenes, and it's to be expected that he used Saul's witness relocation guy. People want everything explained for them, and yet they complain when something like this is.

Like Jbo I thought the episode was near perfect. Walt Jr. turning his back on his Dad was heartbreaking (the last person who he believed was on his "side"). Same goes with Andrea being assassinated due to Jesse's actions. Then we have Todd and gang hold Skyler hostage, who knew how that was going to turn out. We also see how Walt's "confession" didn't exactly "save" Skyler, a case that did need explaining. Really though this episode is all about Walt in which they needed to fill in what happened between much of this season and the flash forward, and they did that.

I honestly think some people are hoping for these episodes to disappoint just so they can pull the old "I told you so" garbage next week.

I think that that scene locked up Aaron Paul's Emmy for next year. That or the scene in the desert when he tells Walt to stop working him. That Andrea scene was really hard to watch.

[Coys1882]

There is no way this season can end without Jesse avenging Meth Damon killing Andrea is there?

[polak]

Originally Posted by gargamel

One possibility is that, after killing the Nazis, he could make a deal with the DA to turn himself in if Skyler gets immunity. The delayed suicide by ricin would give him time to make that happen but wouldn't leave him stuck in prison.

Won't the cancer take care of that?

[TurnedTheCorner]

The ricin would act in a much more predictable and bearable manner than dying slowly from cancer IMO.

[polak]

Yeah I guess. I don't know, I guess I'm not a fan of the idea that Walt kills himself. Seems sort of anti-climactic. I hope Jessie or someone in his family pulls the trigger.

Can you imagine if it was Walt Jr.?