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Old 09-15-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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Flames So, where do we find our Shea Weber ?

Taking into account our current depressing soft d-core and promising prospect pool, there is certainly a big hole in our system - a true 1st pairing leader, a big pylon who can reliably log 20+ minutes with no real weaknesses in his game. I mean a guy like

Webber, Chara, Pronger, Phaneuf or Seabrook

Brodie is not the man - no doubt he's capable of playing 1st pairing minutes but IMHO as a complementary, offensive minded guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Flames have to choose from the following options:

1. Hope for the best and see one of our prospects (Wotherspoon, Roy, Ramage ?) sky-rocket to the elite level.

2. Draft D heavy next year, even when highly skilled forwards are available.

3. Free agency. Very unlikely in my opinion - with our luck we'd get either a mixed bag or post apex journeyman

4. Trade. The downside is obliterated forward pool

5. We don't need one - see '06 Canes or '09 Pens

I can't resist of saying that giving up 2nd round pick in Cammalleri trade still makes my blood boil. Had we traded Bourque for a prospect or a pick, we'd now have Haag, Santini or Heatherington in our defence pool.

Long story short, in our future play off run ...

Brodie - X
Wotherspoon/Ramage/Breen - Sieloff/Roy/Rafikov
Martin/Kanzig/Giordano - Butler/O'Brien/Cundari

... who the heck is our X man and how will we get him ?

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Old 09-15-2013, 02:16 PM   #2
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Gio will turn into our Weber after a bounce back season and given the C
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:19 PM   #3
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Gio will turn into our Weber after a bounce back season and given the C
serious? i can't actually tell .. but gio ain't going to be anywhere close to those mentioned
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:19 PM   #4
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Trade for him.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:21 PM   #5
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we could use a #1 and a #3. Brodie is our #2 and wotherspoon our future #4. so ekblad + another first round pick we acquire next year? Ekblad and a guy like brycen martin or joe hicketts?
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Aaron Ekblad. 2014 Draft..
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If we end up with a very high draft pick always go bpa with a preference for forwards. Defensemen are harder to predict and become available far more often. A dman will hit their prime after their UFA years start.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:27 PM   #8
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serious? i can't actually tell .. but gio ain't going to be anywhere close to those mentioned
... and he's turning 30 in October
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:28 PM   #9
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Who needs Weber when we have a Chara = Kanzig.
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We will need to spend a high pick or two on getting one soon, but it isn't the #1 problem.

We still need a couple good forwards (Monahan level or better) as well. It really depends what's on the board when the Flames go to pick.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:43 PM   #11
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Who is Therian? I know there used to be a marginal NHL player but past that I have no idea who that is.

As for getting a defenseman like Weber - luck?
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:44 PM   #12
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I hope the flames trade more vets at the deadline and try to add more 1st round picks. Then we can draft a forward and a defensemen with a late 1st.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:45 PM   #13
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by continuing to patiently utilize the draft and acquire assets.

In a couple years, when we have lots of assets to work with, we can start to go after the missing pieces
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I really hope we end up with ekblad this draft - he appears to be a potential franchise defenceman.
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The better question is how do we get a player like Suter?
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:08 PM   #16
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The better question is how do we get a player like Suter?
Sign a player like Parise at the same time.
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Same place the Flames will acquire most of their pieces from - the draft.

Patience is the key.
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Taking into account our current depressing soft d-core and promising prospect pool, there is certainly a big hole in our system - a true 1st pairing leader, a big pylon who can reliably log 20+ minutes with no real weaknesses in his game. I mean a guy like

Webber, Chara, Therien, Pronger, Phaneuf or Seabrook

Brodie is not the man - no doubt he's capable of playing 1st pairing minutes but IMHO as a complementary, offensive minded guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Flames have to choose from the following options:

1. Hope for the best and see one of our prospects (Wotherspoon, Roy, Ramage ?) sky-rocket to the elite level.

2. Draft D heavy next year, even when highly skilled forwards are available.

3. Free agency. Very unlikely in my opinion - with our luck we'd get either a mixed bag or post apex journeyman

4. Trade. The downside is obliterated forward pool

5. We don't need one - see '06 Canes or '09 Pens

I can't resist of saying that giving up 2nd round pick in Cammalleri trade still makes my blood boil. Had we traded Bourque for a prospect or a pick, we'd now have Haag, Santini or Heatherington in our defence pool.

Long story short, in our future play off run ...

Brodie - X
Wotherspoon/Ramage/Breen - Sieloff/Roy/Rafikov
Martin/Kanzig/Giordano - Butler/O'Brien/Cundari

... who the heck is our X man and how will we get him ?
Who the heck is Therien?
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:19 PM   #19
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Who the heck is Therien?
I meant Chris Therien from 90s Flyers but you're right (and me probably drunk) as he certainly does not belong to that group - corrected. The rest is OK though.

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Old 09-15-2013, 03:23 PM   #20
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Toronto....there was a time that Shea Weber was Nashvilles Dion Phaneuf
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