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Old 09-12-2013, 02:50 PM   #1901
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:28 PM   #1903
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:29 PM   #1904
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Voyager 1 has crossed a new frontier, becoming the first spacecraft ever to leave the solar system, NASA said Thursday.

Thirty-six years after it was launched from Earth on a tour of the outer planets, the plutonium-powered spacecraft is more than 17 billion km from the sun, cruising through what scientists call interstellar space, the vast, cold emptiness between the stars, the U.S. space agency said
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:20 PM   #1905
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I think this is the 3rd or 4th time they claim it has left the Solar System.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:33 PM   #1906
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Watch this video. I know it's 8 minutes, but it's 8 minutes of Carl Sagan on Voyager. It is the best 8 minutes of your day.

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Voyager 1 has crossed a new frontier, becoming the first spacecraft ever to leave the solar system, NASA said Thursday.

Thirty-six years after it was launched from Earth on a tour of the outer planets, the plutonium-powered spacecraft is more than 17 billion km from the sun, cruising through what scientists call interstellar space, the vast, cold emptiness between the stars, the U.S. space agency said
http://www.vancouversun.com/technolo...758/story.html
Hell of a feat for Voyager as it has only 68 KB of memory on board, next feat is when it flys by another star....in about 40,000 years!
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:02 AM   #1908
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I think this is the 3rd or 4th time they claim it has left the Solar System.
Not to pick on you directly, Pylon, but I've heard a few people say stuff like this...

Why so cynical?

Stop for a second, and think of how far that is, and how long the distance that actually is, and what humanity has achieved by dong so.

It's amazing.

The fact that we can still pick up a signal and ongoing data from the thing is amazing to me.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:39 AM   #1909
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Not to pick on you directly, Pylon, but I've heard a few people say stuff like this...

Why so cynical?

Stop for a second, and think of how far that is, and how long the distance that actually is, and what humanity has achieved by dong so.

It's amazing.

The fact that we can still pick up a signal and ongoing data from the thing is amazing to me.
I am not cynical at all. Nobody is as awe struck by the Universe and the Voyager program as I am. The first thing I do, every time I walk outside at night.... is look up. I remember being glued for 2 weeks to the TV in 1989, when they broadcast the live video feed from Voyager on some obscure cable channel when it passed Neptune. Every spare minute I had, looking at a big blue blob. When I was in grade 8, me and my dad.... OK my dad, built a model of Voyager that was so accurate, that it hung from the Science lab of my Junior High for 15 years.

I was merely making an observation. Over the last 2 years, there have been more than one occasion where they have made this claim.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:52 AM   #1910
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I don't know for sure, but isn't this the first time NASA has actually made the claim? I feel like over the past couple of years they release data saying we've seen some change and then some report that Voyager may have left the solar system, then there's some debate if that's the case or not.

This feels more like NASA is finally saying, okay now we're confident enough to say it ourselves.
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I don't know for sure, but isn't this the first time NASA has actually made the claim? I feel like over the past couple of years they release data saying we've seen some change and then some report that Voyager may have left the solar system, then there's some debate if that's the case or not.

This feels more like NASA is finally saying, okay now we're confident enough to say it ourselves.
I think that's exactly it. Some scientists suspected it had left the system earlier, but some new data they recently received made the case compelling so NASA is officially taken the stance that Voyager has left the system.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:46 PM   #1912
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Also Pylon if you check the dates, it's around August of last year, not this year. Basically NASA is verifying what scientists were suggesting last year not that it just recently crossed this boundary.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:57 PM   #1913
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I've wondered why they haven't done a project like the Voyager crafts since.

You'd think with the increase in technology they could get even more information. Find out about Jupiter and Saturn's moons in more detail perhaps.

The craft could be more durable, perhaps even move quicker (I know it's not purely a question of power or thrust, but surely there can be improvements to be had in 40 years) and be built to really explore the area outside the solar system, or at least give us a hint on what's out there, in that supposedly empty space.

Lastly, it would be a relatively cheap project would it not? By space standards anyway. Surely there'd be enough to learn to give it approval?
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There have been many planetary missions in the Solar System, with many more to come:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._System_probes

Ex. Galileo - Jupiter. Cassini - Saturn

http://www.planetary.org/explore/spa...pace-missions/

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Old 09-13-2013, 02:23 PM   #1917
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Our moon should have a real name, otherwise it's like calling Earth "the planet".

Lol that's probably what Earth means, I guess I'll have to go check the etymology of the word earth.
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I think this is the 3rd or 4th time they claim it has left the Solar System.
Indeed. I was confused when I first saw the article. I could have sworn I had read this before...
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There is no way we have the technology to explore outside the solar system. The advancements made in the past 40 years do not come anywhere close to what is needed to be intersolar explorers. We can hardly explore our own solar system, let alone other star systems.

The nearest star is 4.3 light years away. Speed of light is 299,792.5 km/sec. Voyager 1 is traveling at 17 km/sec, this is 0.005671% the speed of light. This is the fastest man made object, and it is a fraction of a fraction of the speed needed to explore other worlds.

It will take Voyager over 80,000 years to travel 4 light years.

I think it is nearly impossible for us to understand how large the universe is. We can quote numbers, but we have absolutely no frame of reference. It is nearly impossible for the general public to understand how large our solar system is. I think this has a lot to do with how the planets are lined up in science class, all nice and neat.

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Old 09-13-2013, 02:32 PM   #1920
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Why does it matter? Its kind of like when are you really out of town? I read somewhere else that its going to be another 300 years before its truly in interstellar space and like 20,000 years for it to reach the influence of another solar system.

I wonder with today's technology how fast we could get a probe to another solar system? Could we do it in 100 years?
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