Well... I enjoyed the episode, thought it was great, Walt got his ass handed to him but there were some rolling eyes events regarding the shoot out. One in particular was:
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Please raise your hand if you got blown away with one shot by a handgun held by Todd from a distance
The unassuming, unaware, unprepared, shocked kid with no cover that wasn't moving and shooting back?
It's strange, during that scene all I could think was how incredibly realistic the firefight was turning out. Bunch of guys with semi/fully automatic weapons firing like madmen at 2 trained cops with nothing more than a handgun and a short range shotgun, all with some form of cover, and nobody gets hit. By all accounts, that's exactly how situations like that play out in the real world (even with highly trained military personnel).
As for the 'white power' group being able to take out the meth folks in the desert, they didn't really show how it all went down. It sounds like they were able to get up close and personal and take them over by surprise (I'm pretty sure that each group knew or was aware of each other as there had been mention of bringing Todd in before the #### hit the fan).
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The unassuming, unaware, unprepared, shocked kid with no cover that wasn't moving and shooting back?
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Not talking about the kid. That's basically irrelevant. I'm talking about the guy who was able to whip out a handgun before anyone could react and in one quick trigger pull basically "head shot" the kid while wearing gloves.
That said, like I originally clarified. I enjoyed the episode, thought it was great. I don't really care how the gun fight played out. It's TV and it's a gun fight. It's not going to be realistic anyway. Just rolled my eyes a little when I thought back to Todd's prior pistol accuracy when it came to at distance child execution.
I read a theory on the Breaking Bad subreddit that the Nazis might not be trying to kill everyone in the gun battle. Maybe they're just trying to assert some dominance and force Hank and Gomie to surrender. Who knows.
Personally, I think the gun fight seems inept because of editing. This season, the crew has played around a lot with time. We've jumped back in time probably at least once an episode. It wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing seemed really long and drawn out with no fatal shots because we keep seeing scenes that are happening all at the same time. We see Todd and his uncle blasting away. We see Gomie with his bad ass shotgun and Hank ripping off shots with is pistol (or revolver, or hand gun, or tiny big gun, whatever you gun geeks want to call it). We see Walt rolling around in the car seat with glass shattering all around him losing his glasses. We see Jesse struggling to get out of the car and escape to safer spaces. All of this is happening simultaneously but there's no way for the viewer to see it all without editing the scenes together as it is. The whole thing ends up feeling more drawn out than it actually is and we'll see that next week.
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I read a theory on the Breaking Bad subreddit that the Nazis might not be trying to kill everyone in the gun battle. Maybe they're just trying to assert some dominance and force Hank and Gomie to surrender. Who knows.
Personally, I think the gun fight seems inept because of editing. This season, the crew has played around a lot with time. We've jumped back in time probably at least once an episode. It wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing seemed really long and drawn out with no fatal shots because we keep seeing scenes that are happening all at the same time. We see Todd and his uncle blasting away. We see Gomie with his bad ass shotgun and Hank ripping off shots with is pistol (or revolver, or hand gun, or tiny big gun, whatever you gun geeks want to call it). We see Walt rolling around in the car seat with glass shattering all around him losing his glasses. We see Jesse struggling to get out of the car and escape to safer spaces. All of this is happening simultaneously but there's no way for the viewer to see it all without editing the scenes together as it is. The whole thing ends up feeling more drawn out than it actually is and we'll see that next week.
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Instead of leaving you with the visual of seeing Gomie or Hank shot and then end scene cliffhanger for the week, we might see Hank or Gomie go down in the first 5-10 seconds of the next episode, shocking us all into the edge of our seats.
Hank and Gomez would run out of ammo very fast. The Neo-Nazis came ready. I see Hank trying to surrender and Todd's uncle executing him in front of Walt as a message. It would also open an avenue for Marie to become very unstable and go on the offence.
Interesting that it is a prequel. Guess Saul may get killed after all.
Possibly. I would assume they felt that they'd have much more story to work with in a prequel. Really, where do you take a story of Saul post-Heisenberg?
Yeah everything seems to be pointing at Walt going to battle with the Nazi's and not Hank.
I find that very disappointing. 5 seasons of build up between Hank and Walt and it's just squashed out by some lame group that showed up for a couple episodes in season 5? Accidentally might I add...
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Walt has no muscle - the guys who want him to cook WERE his muscle - now they'll just threaten him into submission.
Yeah but we know Walt goes on the run and comes back heavily armed. Everything after the last episode points to that revolving around the nazi's. Which sucks.
Yeah but we know Walt goes on the run and comes back heavily armed. Everything after the last episode points to that revolving around the nazi's. Which sucks.
That may not be the case and if it were, why not wait to see how it plays out before judging. Seems like you're already resigned to the fact that if they go that route that its going to suck no matter what. Now, it's not an ideal way for it to end for me either for the same reason you outlined a few posts prior, but I do think going in with an open mind is the only way to go.
Possibly. I would assume they felt that they'd have much more story to work with in a prequel. Really, where do you take a story of Saul post-Heisenberg?
Actually I'm kinda excited about the idea of a prequel vs. a continuation. I think there would be a lot more to explore.
Post-Heisenberg as you said, even if Saul isn't dead, there's a good chance he just goes into hiding, pulls up roots, maybe ends up on a sandy beach somewhere (besides Belise ). I could see him just being 'done' with it all. He's made out like a bandit with Walt and Jesse, he doesn't really need his crappy little practice anymore. Unless he's working with another big outfit, and Gus is dead too remember, what's the point of him hanging around? How's a couple hundred thousand max gonna feel after making a few million a year for the last little while?
As well, we can find out how he met all his contacts. Mike, Huell, Burr's character. We already know Mike is dead, and the other two could be soon as well.
I actually think it's a smart idea to go backwards on this one, and I've been against the proliferation of prequels in recent years.
Yeah everything seems to be pointing at Walt going to battle with the Nazi's and not Hank.
I find that very disappointing. 5 seasons of build up between Hank and Walt and it's just squashed out by some lame group that showed up for a couple episodes in season 5? Accidentally might I add...
I dunno about that. Could be the DEA, even without Hank. The local police or jail.
The Neo's will obviously be part of it, but I don't know if they will be the main plot hook.
Don't forget, Jesse has to figure in somehow, and I imagine that will be the biggest hook. Walt and Jesse are the two biggest characters in the show, and the writers know that. That will be the big confrontation. Whether it's the two of them trying to kill each other, or maybe there is a mea culpa somewhere and the two are trying to help each other, who knows. But something big has got to happen there.
I'm only at S4E6 and please tell me this show is going to get better. S1 and S2 were flawless in telling a middle age man fish out of water story in the meth underworld. The first 5 episodes of S3 were lakcing a bit but at least the show picked up speed in the 2nd half of S3. Now I am finding it hard to watch S4 up to episode 6.
The show started to feel drawn out and the confrontation between Skyler/Walter and Walter/Jesse were not trite. And how long can we suspend our disbelife that Walter existed under Hank's nose without being spotted?
Hmmm, most people enjoyed season four the most. I'm with you, I liked the first two seasons the best. But I ate up all the seasons so, there wasn't any let down for me.
I'm trying to think precisely where you are. The last three episodes of season four are very intense, but if you're looking for that same drama coming from the sickness and the family, obviously you won't get it.
Don't give up though. Even if you don't like the whole feel or direction of season four, there are some emmy caliber scenes coming up, that I'm am positive you will really enjoy. I'm thinking of a particular scene in the second last episode of season four particularly, and that's all I'll say.
I'm trying to think precisely where you are. The last three episodes of season four are very intense, but if you're looking for that same drama coming from the sickness and the family, obviously you won't get it.
I'm at where the Whites just bought the car wash, the chicken truck got hit the second time, Mike took Jesse to do money drops, Hank got involved with Gale's murder, Walter tried to kill Gus. That's all the major development I can think of in S4 so far. With very few characters in the show, it will be treading old ground if no new characters are introduced.
For sure I will hang on til the end with only 20 more episodes to go.
). I could see him just being 'done' with it all. He's made out like a bandit with Walt and Jesse, he doesn't really need his crappy little practice anymore. Unless he's working with another big outfit, and Gus is dead too remember, what's the point of him hanging around? How's a couple hundred thousand max gonna feel after making a few million a year for the last little while?
