Would you support Rainbow on Hockey Unis for Sochi?

[JiriHrdina]

Yeah the thread is clearly labeled and there aren't tons of hockey topics anyways.

So please stop
- Complaining about the thread being open
- Complaining about posters not being banned
- Complaining about where the thread is placed

[Poe969]

Do you think any other country is contemplating making some sort of statement during the olympics?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by korzym12

"Everyone"? Non-professionals, anonymous internet posters.

Through this entire discussion, the gay lobby has been very childish. On one hand they argue for "equality" - but openly accept discrimination of Christians. Present studies - the researchers are this and that. I'm not dealing with rational people.

See this is where your thinking, although thinking doesn't really seem like something you do, goes wrong. Nobody is accepting discrimination of Christians, they are accepting of discrimination against bigots like you.

As I said earlier, Christians/Catholics/Whatever else does not equal bigot. The title of bigot is something you earn with your words and actions, it has nothing to do with the church you attend. You are a bigot based on your words and actions.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Do you think any other country is contemplating making some sort of statement during the olympics?

Bravo!

I imagine if Canada isn't it might be a stretch to think other countries would, but there are some pretty progressive countries in Scandinavia, so it wouldn't surprise me if a Sweden/Denmark/Norway plus perhaps a Swirzerland etc made a statement of some sort. Their the only ones most likely to do something as far as I would imagine.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by korzym12

Hatred towards Christians is not defense it's discrimination which gays are guilty of.

Again, maybe if you had morals you'd be able to put forth an argument for gays.

Do unto others as you'd have done to yourself.

I know your frustrated right now but it's true. You don't insult the people whom you're trying to convince. Maybe if you said "gays should be respected, Christians should be respected, etc" But you're saying it's ok to discriminate against Christians because they have a different view.

So if a Christian applies the same rules, because gays have different views from Christians - according to your moral code, Christians would have the right to "go after" gays - just because they disagree with them.

Again, I accept your apology. Get some sleep, clear your mind, and try to present an argument that makes sense.

I don't want to convince you. I just want you, and everyone else, to know that you are a bigot. You're no better than the Phelps family.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

In North America. Civil Rights, yes. Human Rights, No.

I think the problem with that Bishops quote is the same as I have been saying. One is a fight for equality, the other a fight for freedom, they should not be compared.

This is just a cherry-picking of facts. Yes, there was a fight for freedom but after said fight for freedom took place there was then a fight for equality. Anyone should be able to understand that you can split the two events into separate ideas (freedom & equality). Thus, you can then logically and intelligently say that the LGBT fight for equality is pretty much identical to the black equality fight.

The same thing can be said for women's rights, which you "belittled" as saying it was just a fight for equality.

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

That is a stupid argument. Blacks were killed en masse. They were slaves. They had zero freedom.

It was not a fight for equality, they for for basic freedom.

Fighting for Gay equality is more comparable to fighting for women's equality.

Women used to be considered property. Just like slaves. They fought for freedom and then they fought for equality. They were persecuted and executed (by the church) by the tens of thousands out of some absurd notion that any outspoken, knowledgable woman must be a witch. Even today many cultures still consider women to be "less" and it is an ongoing struggle for them to be treated as equals. There are many first world organizations that go into other countries in order to try to help the fight for women's equality.

Thing is, these are all just details that distract people from the fact that all of these movements are trying to get the same thing: Equal rights regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or ability to see.

This Bishop is trying to distract you into thinking that one fight is different than the other but the truth is that the only difference is the starting point of the fight and the twists and turns that the fight takes along the way. Regardless of the details, all of the fights are trying to accomplish the same thing and thus in spirit are essentially identical.

As a side note: I find really entertaining that the Church seems to always be on the wrong side of each of these fights.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by korzym12

So if a Christian applies the same rules, because gays have different views from Christians - according to your moral code, Christians would have the right to "go after" gays - just because they disagree with them.

Christians already "go after" gays. They've been going after them for a lot longer than you have been alive. It is not a magical surprise that suddenly BAM, its 2013 and there are all these people suddenly dislike the Church. The church has thousands of years of history persecuting and killing other groups of people (and subsets of their own people).

Thing is, you have yet to actually post any supporting documentation of the gay community saying horrible things about Christians. So far this is just a made up concept that you have been spouting off as fact.

Originally Posted by korzym12

Hatred towards Christians is not defense it's discrimination which gays are guilty of.

Again, maybe if you had morals you'd be able to put forth an argument for gays.


Do unto others as you'd have done to yourself.

So with the whole "Do unto others", how does that work with your rapist pedophile priests that the Church keeps protecting? Does the church secretly take these guys into the back room and have them raped? From what I have read, most of these priests are forgiven and allowed to carry on within the Church in positions that allow them to continue to sexually abuse children, which seems like a pretty big double standard to how the external gay community is treated by the Church.

Maybe if this little bit of hypocrisy could get worked out the gay community and the church community could get along?

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by polak

LGBT people shouldn't be judged for their sexual orientation. Bigots, deserve to be judged because they are clueless, ignorant people.

I totally agree with you Polak

Judging people by what they are = wrong
Judging people by what they do = juuust fine

[korzym12]

Speak if you're spoken to.

I understand many of the gay lobbyist read each others' arguments in favour of gays and realize that they are flat. You then have to speak up for other individuals with whom I'm talking to because their arguments are so weak. If you want me to GRACE YOU with my attention, then discrediting your colleague by budding in the conversation and speaking for him as if he's a child - isn't the way to do it.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by korzym12

Speak if you're spoken to.

I understand many of the gay lobbyist read each others' arguments in favour of gays and realize that they are flat. You then have to speak up for other individuals with whom I'm talking to because their arguments are so weak. If you want me to GRACE YOU with my attention, then discrediting your colleague by budding in the conversation and speaking for him as if he's a child - isn't the way to do it.

Ok, I'm calling it. If anyone takes THAT troll bait you're asking for it.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by strombad

Ok, I'm calling it. If anyone takes THAT troll bait you're asking for it.

The things he will say to avoid answering a question is pretty hilarious. I can't remember the last time someone said "speak if you're spoken to", especially on an online message board where everyone is typing.

Even if everyone ignores him, I'm sure he'll be back in a few days to announce how some gay activists attacked a Christian church in retaliation to 44% of them being molested by priests. There won't be any links to the event on the internet though as it is being hushed up by the gay lobbyists - however, everyone that might have been involved was really well dressed.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by korzym12

Speak if you're spoken to.

I understand many of the gay lobbyist read each others' arguments in favour of gays and realize that they are flat. You then have to speak up for other individuals with whom I'm talking to because their arguments are so weak. If you want me to GRACE YOU with my attention, then discrediting your colleague by budding in the conversation and speaking for him as if he's a child - isn't the way to do it.

I'm 6'4 buddy. I don't have anything to prove to you.

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

The mods are not sleeping. We've chosen to allow the conversation to continue because shutting down conversations does nothing to further the issue. Discussion promotes change.

This is fine, it's not about the general topic of conversation. The issue is that this thread isn't about anything anymore but everyone feeding one extremely obvious troll. I mean, read that guy's posts. I can't believe anyone's buying this.

Somewhat more on topic, there is apparently some nervousness arising over pressure that has been put on by North American Olympic sponsors: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle14180640/

“Lately there has been a lot of discussion and I am pushed by several sponsors about what will happen with this new law in Russia,” IOC marketing chief Gerhard Heiberg told Sochi Games chief Dmitry Chernyshenko.

“Especially the American sponsors are afraid what could happen. This could ruin a lot for all of us.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by valo403

i'm 6'4 buddy. I don't have anything to prove to you.

stop it you silly goose.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

Somewhat more on topic, there is apparently some nervousness arising over pressure that has been put on by North American Olympic sponsors: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle14180640/

Fantastic!

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I never grouped them together, I am fine with homosexuals and despise the others. But they are connected as they are each sexual preferences.

Uhh, no this doesn't make sense.

There are homosexual pedophiles and there are heterosexual pedophiles. You're making it sound like people are either born a) homo b) hetero or c) pedo and that obviously isn't the case. There are both homosexual and heterosexual people with strange sexual proclivities and going even further, with psychological and psychiatric disorders that cause them to act out sexually.

To be clear, Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder that can afflict either homosexual or heterosexual people and it is NOT, like homosexuality and heterosexuality, a sexual orientation.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

Somewhat more on topic, there is apparently some nervousness arising over pressure that has been put on by North American Olympic sponsors: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle14180640/

That's good info. Personally I would love to see more pressure from the sponsors as I am sure Russia is relying upon the incoming funds from the Olympics to offset their $50+ billion dollar expense thus far in assembling the event.

I would also be interested to see Russia's reaction to the sponsor's concern that the Russian population might not show up in big numbers to watch the games. I could see the Russian government try to keep the underpaid migrant workers on as seat fillers.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by korzym12

Speak if you're spoken to.

I understand many of the gay lobbyist read each others' arguments in favour of gays and realize that they are flat. You then have to speak up for other individuals with whom I'm talking to because their arguments are so weak. If you want me to GRACE YOU with my attention, then discrediting your colleague by budding in the conversation and speaking for him as if he's a child - isn't the way to do it.

I know you are but what am I.

I'm rubber you're glue whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you.

I am pretty sure that none of us "gay lobbyist" (oh god what an ass you sound) would care if you "GRACE" us with your attention. In fact, I am pretty sure it would not bother anyone if you just disappeared.

[Soliak]

Originally Posted by korzym12

Speak if you're spoken to.

I understand many of the gay lobbyist read each others' arguments in favour of gays and realize that they are flat. You then have to speak up for other individuals with whom I'm talking to because their arguments are so weak. If you want me to GRACE YOU with my attention, then discrediting your colleague by budding in the conversation and speaking for him as if he's a child - isn't the way to do it.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by strombad

stop it you silly goose.

Ha. Just couldn't resist using his words (with an adjustment to the height) against him an equally ridiculous way.