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[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I am fine with homosexuals and despise the others. But they are connected as they are each sexual preferences.

That makes as much sense as saying that heterosexuality is connected with paedophilia because they are both sexual preferences.

[photon]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

That makes as much sense as saying that heterosexuality is connected with paedophilia because they are both sexual preferences.

In that respect they are connected.. just because different terms are grouped together with respect to definitions of terms doesn't give any kind of implicit value judgment about the terms.

[Peanut]

This thread is exhausting. But I am glad to see so many posters arguing for progress and equality.

And Photon, I seriously bow down to your debating skills.

[korzym12]

Originally Posted by polak

And that is why you're a bad human being.

I could have sworn you posted that gays shouldn't be "judged". More hypocrisy from this special interest group.

[korzym12]

Originally Posted by polak

Oh yeah. Grouping those together into this conversation is wrong on it's own. Can't really compare pedophilia to LGBT.

Except for studies that have shown 44% of gays have been sexually abused as children.

[polak]

Originally Posted by korzym12

I could have sworn you posted that gays shouldn't be "judged". More hypocrisy from this special interest group.

LGBT people shouldn't be judged for their sexual orientation. Bigots, deserve to be judged because they are clueless, ignorant people.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by korzym12

I could have sworn you posted that gays shouldn't be "judged". More hypocrisy from this special interest group.

For being gay.

Like, nobody here is judging you for your skin colour or your gender korzym. We are however judging you because you say things that are often full of bigotry and backwards thinking and generally show a lack of intellect or understanding of the world you live in.

So yeah, judging people is fine. Judging people on how they were born? Not fine.
Big difference.
I'm judging you right now because you're not smart enough to figure that out.
Judging youuuuu.

You should start a special interest group for people lacking a basic education on basic societal living in developed nations.
You could be king.
I imagine no queens allowed?

[strombad]

Originally Posted by korzym12

Except for studies that have shown 44% of gays have been sexually abused as children.

The one study that everyone discredited you mean. Still on that eh?

Ever like, taken a class, thought critically, that kind of thing? No?.... cool.

[badger89]

Originally Posted by korzym12

Except for studies that have shown 44% of gays have been sexually abused as children.

And studies show that 98% of bigots are secretly gay.

[korzym12]

Originally Posted by strombad

The one study that everyone discredited you mean. Still on that eh?

Ever like, taken a class, thought critically, that kind of thing? No?.... cool.

"Everyone"? Non-professionals, anonymous internet posters.

Through this entire discussion, the gay lobby has been very childish. On one hand they argue for "equality" - but openly accept discrimination of Christians. Present studies - the researchers are this and that. I'm not dealing with rational people.

[korzym12]

Originally Posted by badger89

And studies show that 98% of bigots are secretly gay.

This issue aside - that's "trolling" - unquestionably.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I think this is a fine line here, and it's not as simple as people make it out to be.

But I agree with the bishop that said it is not the same as the fight for civil rights for blacks.

The one big difference between being gay and being black is if you are gay you do choose to let people know you are gay. If you are black you have no choice, people know before you open your mouth.

I don't think it's right to look down on gays for being gay, but I also don't think it's fair to black history to compare these struggles for equality.

Except for blind people, they don't know if someone's black. So, is it fair to say this is at least equal to the civil rights movement with blacks and blind people?

[polak]

Originally Posted by korzym12

"Everyone"? Non-professionals, anonymous internet posters.

Through this entire discussion, the gay lobby has been very childish. On one hand they argue for "equality" - but openly accept discrimination of Christians. Present studies - the researchers are this and that. I'm not dealing with rational people.

Discrimination? You don't get to cry discrimination when the only discrimination you're facing is in the form of the defense of a group that you decided to go after. Also, the defense is blind. It's not going after you because you're christian. It doesn't matter what religion you practice, if any. We're going after you because your own personal beliefs, regardless of what they are derived from, are backwards, ignorant and hateful.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by korzym12

"Everyone"? Non-professionals, anonymous internet posters.

Through this entire discussion, the gay lobby has been very childish. On one hand they argue for "equality" - but openly accept discrimination of Christians. Present studies - the researchers are this and that. I'm not dealing with rational people.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone protest louder than you.

[korzym12]

Originally Posted by polak

LGBT people shouldn't be judged for their sexual orientation. Bigots, deserve to be judged because they are clueless, ignorant people.

Do unto others as you'd have done to yourself.

First you say gays shouldn't be judged.

Then you say ok to judge people.

When you say things like that, it confirms that gays want more rights than other citizens. I have freedom of speech, and I have freedom of practicing my religion. Gays can be respected, but engaging in disgusting sexual acts is filth - expecting me to adopt your opinion on the matter is outrageous in light of all our laws. That's what this is about, if I find gay sex acts disgusting and barbaric - then I'm somehow offending gays. But if I follow the law and do them no harm - you face discrimination from gays and get called a "bigot". Being called that is on the same level as a little kid saying he's going to "beat you up", I can't take that verbal "assault" seriously.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by korzym12

When you say things like that, it confirms that gays want more rights than other citizens. I have freedom of speech, and I have freedom of practicing my religion. Gays can be respected, but engaging in disgusting sexual acts is filth - expecting me to adopt your opinion on the matter is outrageous in light of all our laws. That's what this is about, if I find gay sex acts disgusting and barbaric - then I'm somehow offending gays. But if I follow the law and do them no harm - you face discrimination from gays and get called a "bigot". Being called that is on the same level as a little kid saying he's going to "beat you up", I can't take that verbal "assault" seriously.

When you mean disgusting sexual acts you just mean seeing two dudes kissing is icky, right?

[korzym12]

Originally Posted by polak

Discrimination? You don't get to cry discrimination when the only discrimination you're facing is in the form of the defense of a group that you decided to go after. Also, the defense is blind. It's not going after you because you're christian. It doesn't matter what religion you practice, if any. We're going after you because your own personal beliefs, regardless of what they are derived from, are backwards, ignorant and hateful.

Hatred towards Christians is not defense it's discrimination which gays are guilty of.

Again, maybe if you had morals you'd be able to put forth an argument for gays.

Do unto others as you'd have done to yourself.

I know your frustrated right now but it's true. You don't insult the people whom you're trying to convince. Maybe if you said "gays should be respected, Christians should be respected, etc" But you're saying it's ok to discriminate against Christians because they have a different view.

So if a Christian applies the same rules, because gays have different views from Christians - according to your moral code, Christians would have the right to "go after" gays - just because they disagree with them.

Again, I accept your apology. Get some sleep, clear your mind, and try to present an argument that makes sense.

[Jimdon]

This is the most pathetic thing ive ever read on this board. White knighting on this type of thing is just as bad as starting the argument in the first place. dont even acknowlege it with a response. How did religion ever get allowed to become a topic of discussion here? Are the mods sleeping? Embarrassing.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by jimdon

this is the most pathetic thing ive ever read on this board. White knighting on this type of thing is just as bad as starting the argument in the first place. Dont even acknowlege it with a response. How did religion ever get allowed to become a topic of discussion here? Are the mods sleeping? Embarrassing.

oh wow sorry dad we'll go to bed!

[polak]

You're acting like this is a "chicken or the egg" kind of situation when it's not. The LGBT right supporters aren't coming after Christians. They're just defending themselves from persecution.

Take out the anti-gay rhetoric from Christianity and no one here would be "discriminating" against Christians.