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Old 09-07-2013, 10:03 PM   #201
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I just looked at those numbers...good lord.

Over 530 rushing yards (almost half by the QB alone) and 660 in total...still 8 minutes left.
if I were a team on their schedule and I had a rb that can pass the ball for 10 yards I would play them at QB and run this diamond spread offense against UT. they just cant stop the run, but the altitude has to have a lot to do with it
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:19 PM   #202
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BYU's final numbers against Texas...

679 yds of which 550 were on the ground, and win by 19 points....and Texas was the #15 team in the country coming in.
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The last 2 QB's to go for 250+ on the ground before Taysom Hill did tonight?

Vince Young and Denard Robinson.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:04 PM   #204
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550 rushing yards? Holy crap!
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:17 PM   #205
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550 rushing yards by BYU? Holy crap!
Sorry, had to fix that, I guess Texas figured they were still a pass-only offense.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:26 PM   #206
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Sorry for you Longhorn fans, but the glory days are in the mirror much like USC and theirs looks to be a pretty long recovery period ahead.
Speaking of USC this is quite the barnburner vs perennial powerhouse Washington State. 7-7 with 6 minutes left. Win or lose don't they have to fire Kiffin this year or is your AD just in love with him? He's a terrible coach.

Make that lose. 10-7 final.

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Old 09-08-2013, 07:34 AM   #207
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Lane Kiffin is the single worst sports coach on planet earth. Sad thing is even when he gets fired he'll slime his way into another gig. I mean how the hell did he get the 3 jobs he has already? He sucks as a coach.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:39 AM   #208
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This should be the nail in the coffin for Mack Brown. Only way I could possibly see him save his job is demoting/firing Manny Diaz right now, followed by winning the Big 12. Our Defense is once again terrible. Can't say I was a big fan of Major's playcalling either. We should have torched their defense as they were giving our receivers 8-10 yds cushion because they were scared of the speed. Take what the D gives you, fricking A.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:47 AM   #209
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Speaking of USC this is quite the barnburner vs perennial powerhouse Washington State. 7-7 with 6 minutes left. Win or lose don't they have to fire Kiffin this year or is your AD just in love with him? He's a terrible coach.

Make that lose. 10-7 final.
Kiffin needed to never be hired...hated it from day 1.

Like I said, as a USC fan, I truly am prepared for about 3 more years of suckage, and nothing changes until Kiffin leaves. That should be tomorrow but it wont be. Pat Haden (AD) loves the guy for some unknown reason, but even he cant let it go on much more.

Kiffin will be gone at seasons end, then whomever they bring in will need at least 2 recruiting classes to bring them back to prominence.

Sigh.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:37 PM   #211
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This should be the nail in the coffin for Mack Brown. Only way I could possibly see him save his job is demoting/firing Manny Diaz right now, followed by winning the Big 12. Our Defense is once again terrible. Can't say I was a big fan of Major's playcalling either. We should have torched their defense as they were giving our receivers 8-10 yds cushion because they were scared of the speed. Take what the D gives you, fricking A.
Well Diaz was fired.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:00 PM   #212
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Gardner had a great day with 4 passing TD and 1 Rushing but that debacle where he scrambled 20 yds back and flipped a Int TD in his own end was one the stupidest plays I have ever seen.

Gallon did Desmond's #21 proud going 184yds receiving and 3 Tds.
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In December 2000, Les Miles addressed the Oklahoma State football team for the first time as its head coach. The players sat in theater-style chairs in the meeting room of the school's athletic complex looking down toward Miles, who spoke from behind a lectern.

"We're going to win and we're going to do things my way," Miles told the Cowboys. He then described what he meant. The program would become more disciplined. The talent would be upgraded. And the mediocrity of the past would no longer be tolerated.

At the time, any suggestion that Oklahoma State would join the elite verged on laughable. The Cowboys had just gone 3-8, their 11th losing campaign in 12 years. Miles was familiar with the struggles in Stillwater; he had been the school's offensive coordinator from 1995 to '97 before leaving to become the tight ends coach for the Dallas Cowboys. But he told the players that he was confident the program could redefine itself.

"We are going to win here," he stated flatly.

And they did. After going 4-7 in Miles's first season, Oklahoma State improved to 8-5 in 2002 and went to a bowl game for only the second time since 1988. Under Miles and then Mike Gundy -- who was promoted from offensive coordinator in 2005 after Miles, catapulted by OSU's success, was hired by perennial powerhouse LSU -- Oklahoma State has racked up 10 winning seasons out of the last 11. Two years ago the Cowboys finished 12-1, earning the school's first Big 12 Conference title, and ended the season ranked third in the nation. Miles's prediction had come true.

How does a Division I program make such a large leap in such a short time? SI dispatched senior writers George Dohrmann and Thayer Evans to begin searching for the answer. After receiving information about widespread corruption at Oklahoma State, they spoke with more than a hundred sources with ties to the program. This included 64 former players, all of whom spoke on the record and independently of one another. While most of them did not graduate from the university and many left on ill terms, the picture they paint is consistent: The school acted on two fronts to build a winning program.
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The results of SI's findings are part of a five-part series that begins in this issue of the magazine, continues on SI.com and culminates in next week's issue. "I knew this day was coming, and today is that day," said a former Cowboys assistant coach when told about SI's reporting. "It was a matter of time." OSU's transgressions included:

• A bonus system orchestrated by an assistant coach in which players were paid for their performance on the field, with some stars collecting $500 or more per game. In addition, boosters and at least two assistant coaches funneled money to players through direct payments and a system of no-show and sham jobs. Some players say they collected more than $10,000 annually in under-the-table payouts.

• Widespread academic misconduct, which included tutors and other Oklahoma State personnel completing coursework for players, and professors giving passing grades for little or no work, all in the interest of keeping players eligible.

• Tolerating and at times enabling recreational drug use, primarily through a specious counseling program that allowed some players to continue to use drugs while avoiding penalties. The school's drug policy was selectively enforced, with some starters going unpunished despite repeated positive tests.

• A hostess program, Orange Pride, that figured so prominently in the recruitment of prospects that the group more than tripled in size under Miles. Both he and Gundy took the unusual step of personally interviewing candidates. Multiple former players and Orange Pride members say that a small subset of the group had sex with recruits, a violation of NCAA rules
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:23 AM   #214
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That's quite the article.

I can't say that much surprises me in college football, anymore. Over the years, I guess this has become my perception:

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I would never assume that any perennial Top 25 team is squeaky clean.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:45 AM   #215
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Yeah it is happening everywhere and I think you would have to be blind to think otherwise.

Let the kids make some money, let them get their own endorsement deals, etc and you help close off this issue.
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I do hope Mike Gundy goes down though, I can't stand that guy. In a sport full of ####### coaches, he is the pinnacle.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:58 PM   #217
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Well I know Thayer Evans doesn't have the cleanest sheet in terms of being a journalist. Most people perceive him as a Sooner shill and he supposedly lied on his resume to get his first job at the Houston Chronicle. His one sided articles made NYT cut him as a freelancer. I don't know much about the other guy though.
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Well I know Thayer Evans doesn't have the cleanest sheet in terms of being a journalist. Most people perceive him as a Sooner shill and he supposedly lied on his resume to get his first job at the Houston Chronicle. His one sided articles made NYT cut him as a freelancer. I don't know much about the other guy though.
As a University of Oklahoma die hard I think this stuff is crap. Thayer is a Sooner Homer ( which is fine) but he has done things that make his view on other schools , especially OSU and Texas, not credible. He has called OSU "Chokie State". He went after Texas in the NYT , which resulted in the NYT having to write an apology to the university. Never once in this article was there ever a mention that a majority of players he talked to where ones who were kicked out of the football program at OSU or didn't live up to their billing. That to me is a red flag. I just think the thing reeks as a vendetta on Thayer's part.

I have 2 personal friends that I went to high school with and have the utmost respect for who played ( and started) at Oklahoma State. One of them is a Superbowl Champion with the Ravens. After Hearing those two guys vehemently deny that they ever saw any of these things happen, it is enough for me to think this is a sham.

Am I saying that none of this stuff happened? NO. I think some did happen and think it happens at OU , OSU, Texas, Alabama , and everywhere else. I do believe that a lot of this is fabricated or blown out of proportion by a guy who gets off on running down rivals schools of the school he roots for.
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It seems like a pretty in depth piece and I'm sure if you're going to make these allegations the reporters and the editorial staff at SI (hardly a rag) must have been pretty convinced of the evidence.
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It seems like a pretty in depth piece and I'm sure if you're going to make these allegations the reporters and the editorial staff at SI (hardly a rag) must have been pretty convinced of the evidence.
Do yourself a favor... google Thayer Evans and read some of his past work. He isn't credible. I am embarrassed that he is a Sooner fan.
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