Breaking Bad

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Do other show runners know how much their shows suck in comparison to breaking bad?

[Huntingwhale]

It's gonna be a day when I can sit down with all 5 seasons and watch the entire thing from start to finish. I felt stressed this entire episode.

[djsFlames]

(*spoiler*)

Jesse: "Next time I'm gonna get you where you really live."

So, what does Jesse mean by this? What chink in the armor has he gained knowledge of through all his dealings with Walt? Lots of speculation going on. You'd think the answer would be obvious, but it's actually pretty tough to tell.

My thought (and this has been brought up a fair bit already) is Walt's ego. Maybe Jesse is going to get Hank and Gomez to somehow make it look like Jesse is being busted as the true Heisenberg. Walt won't like him getting the credit and the name, despite all the implications that come with it, and they'll expect him to make some sort of stand.

But then again, it would be difficult to come up with a story that Walt would buy, as he knows that Hank knows it's him already. Part of me thinks that it's very off for Jesse to even be helping Hank, even under the circumstances. He hasn't forgotten what Hank did to him. Maybe he's got his own plan in mind to take down both H&W. I just can't seem to figure out how Jesse expects to get Walt to expose himself as Heisenberg. But any which way, Lydia, Todd and co. are going to enter the fold next week. Maybe Jesse's plan also involves them somehow.

[getbak]

Finale prediction: Walt's going to poison Hank with the ricin and Marie will get arrested for it after her shrink tells the police how she spoke at length about using an untraceable poison.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Jesse's either going to get at Walt's money or do something with his formula to draw him back in. That's all Walt seems to care about.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by getbak

Finale prediction: Walt's going to poison Hank with the ricin and Marie will get arrested for it after her shrink tells the police how she spoke at length about using an untraceable poison.

Yeah but how would he find out about her wanting to poison someone? What did he bug the doctors office?

[TurnedTheCorner]

Just more dumb luck for ole Walt. He has no idea that Marie will get pinned with it.

[trackercowe]

My heart broke a little when I found out that ominous looking bald guy was only there to pick up his kid. Walt was actually there on his own to make one more attempt at making amends with Jessie. Now all heck is going to break lose, and there is no going back; I'd be shocked if Jessie doesn't die now. I was sort of hoping he'd survive over Walt as at least he tries to be a moral person, and often reacts to criminal events like your average person would (whether it be killing someone or poisoning a kid).

Jessie always seemed to be hesitant in pushing the criminal envelope beyond just making and distributing methylamine. There were also many points of the series where he seemed truly happy with his life, but then Walt always had to #### that up for his own gain. While Walt may care about Jessie, his first and foremost concern has always been for himself.

As much as I love Walt the character, in terms of good vs. evil, I hope Jessie finds a way to win (even if he has to kill Walt). Although I was also one who wanted Scarface to die, so I don't always root for the bad guy.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Finally caught up after I begun watching earlier this summer.

How did it take me this long to get into this show?

Mostly cause you suck...

In all honesty I picked up as season four started. Me and MQS raced through the episodes.

Most of us are late comers in some way.

There might be five here from episode one???

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

My heart broke a little when I found out that ominous looking bald guy was only there to pick up his kid. Walt was actually there on his own to make one more attempt at making amends with Jessie. Now all heck is going to break lose, and there is no going back; I'd be shocked if Jessie doesn't die now. I was sort of hoping he'd survive over Walt as at least he tries to be a moral person, and often reacts to criminal events like your average person would (whether it be killing someone or poisoning a kid).

Jessie always seemed to be hesitant in pushing the criminal envelope beyond just making and distributing methylamine. There were also many points of the series where he seemed truly happy with his life, but then Walt always had to #### that up for his own gain. While Walt may care about Jessie, his first and foremost concern has always been for himself.

As much as I love Walt the character, in terms of good vs. evil, I hope Jessie finds a way to win (even if he has to kill Walt). Although I was also one who wanted Scarface to die, so I don't always root for the bad guy.

Like your synopsis.

But they all die! Jesse burns Walts house, Skyler asks him to 'take care of it'.

Although Walt finally looks back at the man he has becoming after killing Jesse. He never completely recovers. Heisenberg is not the same and it all falls to pieces. Though he never ttreated him truly as one, Walt, maybe through ego, sees Jesse as a son. Jesse's death amplifies Walt's unraveling.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Like your synopsis.

But they all die! Jesse burns Walts house, Skyler asks him to 'take care of it'.

Although Walt finally looks back at the man he has becoming after killing Jesse. He never completely recovers. Heisenberg is not the same and it all falls to pieces. Though he never ttreated him truly as one, Walt, maybe through ego, sees Jesse as a son. Jesse's death amplifies Walt's unraveling.

Last weeks hug was very close to real. But it was too little too late.

[JonDuke]

"What's one more?" - Skysenberg

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

This is still my favorite moment in the show. Classic Jesse.

[Igottago]

So I could be way off base here, but is Walt not really out of the business?

At the end he calls Todd and asks him to get his uncle to do one more job. Well, what was the first job? Earlier in the season Todd and his uncle's crew take out the group that had control of the meth operation, while Lydia was there. Did Walt order that hit? When Lydia said she needed Walt's help to get the quality of the product back up, did they hatch a plan to assassinate and take back the meth operation, and now Todd is cooking? With Walt being more of the hands off "Gus" type figure in the background?

[DownInFlames]

Todd's uncle arranged the prison hits.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Igottago

At the end he calls Todd and asks him to get his uncle to do one more job. Well, what was the first job?

The jail hits were first.
I don't think he's involved in that business, that was a hostile takeover for the gang.

[Igottago]

Ok that's right, I forgot Todd's uncle was behind the prison hits.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Igottago

So I could be way off base here, but is Walt not really out of the business?

At the end he calls Todd and asks him to get his uncle to do one more job. Well, what was the first job? Earlier in the season Todd and his uncle's crew take out the group that had control of the meth operation, while Lydia was there. Did Walt order that hit? When Lydia said she needed Walt's help to get the quality of the product back up, did they hatch a plan to assassinate and take back the meth operation, and now Todd is cooking? With Walt being more of the hands off "Gus" type figure in the background?

I don't think Walt is still in the business, because it would've come out in the narrative of the story by now.

Breaking Bad doesn't really keep huge secrets from the fans only to have a huge reveal later. They reveal huge secrets to Characters, but the audience is pretty much in on all the information from each storyline.

It would be shocking to learn in the next few episodes that Walt is still running a meth empire without alluding to it at all in any of the previous episodes.

I'm sure there is a way to write though that would make it work, but I don't think that's where they are going.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I dunno, I could see this fitting together.

Why would Todd call Walter about the change in management if Walt is completely out?

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

I dunno, I could see this fitting together.

Why would Todd call Walter about the change in management if Walt is completely out?

Yeah, I'm not ready to completely dismiss the theory either. If you look at everything that's happened, there are a lot of subtle hints that maybe Walt is still behind all of that. We don't really know that it was just a hostile takeover by Todd and his uncle's group. I can't really remember all of the cold opening a few episodes ago where it was Todd and his uncle at the diner...but it just seems to me there is someone holding the strings there, and it hasn't been revealed yet. I think Walt's phone call to Todd saying "I need your uncle to do one more thing" was a bigger reveal than people are catching onto.

Edit: I actually just re-watched the opening from last episode and it seems like Walt doesn't know about the hit on the meth lab, but Todd leaves him a message about the change in management. Then it ends with them driving the gear into new mexico.

I dunno. This show is messing with my head.