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Old 08-30-2013, 01:23 PM   #461
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What if your a player who agrees with Russia. Should you be able to put a rainbow in a circle with a lind through it patch on your jersey? Would that be alright?
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:47 PM   #462
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If you agree with Russia, as far as I am concerned, you have no business representing my country. So I guess it is a good thing Tim Thomas is American.
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What if your a player who agrees with Russia. Should you be able to put a rainbow in a circle with a lind through it patch on your jersey? Would that be alright?
What don't you get? It's just not okay to deny people rights based on their sexual orientation. You don't get the choice to disagree and have it be "okay". If a team was wearing a Martin Luther King badge and there was a racist player on the team who didn't want to wear the badge, would you let him opt out? I would, but only by showing him the door.

This is stupid.
I'm an a-hole when it comes to this kind of stuff. Using the word "gay" as a negative, getting uncomfortable when I'm around a gay guy and anything sexual somehow comes up... all that crap and I'm sure most straight guys are the same way but the fact that when you sit down, think things through and start writing a post and actually think you should have more rights than the LGBT community, well that just makes you a whole other level of scum and makes your opinion invalid.

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Old 08-30-2013, 02:20 PM   #464
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What if your a player who agrees with Russia. Should you be able to put a rainbow in a circle with a lind through it patch on your jersey? Would that be alright?


Should I facepalm your thoughts or your grammar/spelling....?
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Old 08-30-2013, 02:53 PM   #465
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Sould I facepalm your thoughts or your grammar/spelling....?
Lol.
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Lol.


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Should I facepalm your thoughts or your grammar/spelling....?
Haha, take it easy people I'm not saying I support what the Russians are doing, lets be clear I don't. But if the argument can be raised to say wear the patch to protest the Russians then why can't the argument be made to support the Russians (and let's be clear, I don't support their laws).

I'm simply playing devils advocate and raising my question to generate the debate. The thread was put in place to discuss wearing a rainbow patch to protest so I asked the question about wearing one to support. That's all, just food for thought.
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:33 PM   #468
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Haha, take it easy people I'm not saying I support what the Russians are doing, lets be clear I don't. But if the argument can be raised to say wear the patch to protest the Russians then why can't the argument be made to support the Russians (and let's be clear, I don't support their laws).

I'm simply playing devils advocate and raising my question to generate the debate. The thread was put in place to discuss wearing a rainbow patch to protest so I asked the question about wearing one to support. That's all, just food for thought.

Because their law is backward and ignorant.
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:37 PM   #469
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I'm simply playing devils advocate .
That's annoying, stop it. The debate is going head strong, playing devil's advocate is such an annoying trait.
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Haha, take it easy people I'm not saying I support what the Russians are doing, lets be clear I don't. But if the argument can be raised to say wear the patch to protest the Russians then why can't the argument be made to support the Russians (and let's be clear, I don't support their laws).

I'm simply playing devils advocate and raising my question to generate the debate. The thread was put in place to discuss wearing a rainbow patch to protest so I asked the question about wearing one to support. That's all, just food for thought.
Really? You felt the need to play devil's advocate and "generate the debate" on a thread with over 450 replies that have repeatedly gone over why your point would be ridiculous?

Come on son. Quit playin.
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:42 PM   #471
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Because their law is backward and ignorant.
Good, and that's your opinion and I completely agree, their law is not right. But that doesn't mean that I can't raise the question.

And as I have said before no to the patch. It's a ridiculous idea. If u want to truly show Russia that u don't agree, then as a fan don't go to the Olympics, don't buy tickets to the events, don't pay to stay in their hotels, don't pay for food in their restaurants, in fact don't even watch it on TV, now that's a statement (but I bet all u big talkers on this thread will do nothing for 2 weeks in feb except watch and talk about the olympics). the Olympics are going to cost the Russian country billions upon billions of dollars. Dollars they are planning to get back through the revenue the games will generate for their country. So u want to really teach The russians then Don't go, then maybe they will take notice.
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:44 PM   #472
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Really? You felt the need to play devil's advocate and "generate the debate" on a thread with over 450 replies that have repeatedly gone over why your point would be ridiculous?

Come on son. Quit playin.
Of the 450 replies on this thread maybe only 20 have actually addressed the original point of the thread, the rest of the posts are just people attacking each other like how u are attacking me for simply raising a debate.
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Assuming Pointman is accurate on his take of the law in his country, what human rights are being violated? Stopping people from protesting or promoting homosexuality to minors are not basic human rights. Marriage is not a basic human right.

They don't receive equal privileges, but that is not the same as being denied human rights. It needs to be changed, but it has to be done over time because as I have tried saying you have to change the way people think, you can't just force change none are willing to accept.
Equality under the law is a basic human right, so yes it is.
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No I would not support a rainbow patch on jersey's. If you allow a patch for this particular issue than you have to allow a patch for 10,000 other issues. Pretty soon team Canada will start to look like a Scout's uniform. Let sport remain sport. I'm not tuning into the Olympics to enter a political/cultural/religious debate, I'm watching to watch hockey. There are other forums and things that can be done if people want to get involved in there issues. No issue should take precedence over another.
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No I would not support a rainbow patch on jersey's. If you allow a patch for this particular issue than you have to allow a patch for 10,000 other issues. Pretty soon team Canada will start to look like a Scout's uniform. Let sport remain sport. I'm not tuning into the Olympics to enter a political/cultural/religious debate, I'm watching to watch hockey. There are other forums and things that can be done if people want to get involved in there issues. No issue should take precedence over another.
Guys, I think we need to have San Jose Shark logos on our jersey's to protest shark fin soup at the Olympics. I'm just sayin.
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Of the 450 replies on this thread maybe only 20 have actually addressed the original point of the thread, the rest of the posts are just people attacking each other like how u are attacking me for simply raising a debate.
Haha, I'm not attacking you man. I'm saying the point you brought up has been brought up previously, and rehashed multiple times. Don't shrug your shoulders and say "hey guys just starting a debate!" in the middle of the debate you attempted to 'start' and then say "whoa don't attack me!" when someone says "Hey, we've already covered that point extensively!"

You aren't the first person to bring up or mention support for the law or showing some sort of support for it. Not even close. Nice of you to attempt to contribute, but there are enough people in this thread that actually SUPPORT that idea, we don't need someone playing 'devil's advocate' and posing hypothetical support.
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No I would not support a rainbow patch on jersey's. If you allow a patch for this particular issue than you have to allow a patch for 10,000 other issues. Pretty soon team Canada will start to look like a Scout's uniform. Let sport remain sport. I'm not tuning into the Olympics to enter a political/cultural/religious debate, I'm watching to watch hockey. There are other forums and things that can be done if people want to get involved in there issues. No issue should take precedence over another.
Amen.
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No I would not support a rainbow patch on jersey's. If you allow a patch for this particular issue than you have to allow a patch for 10,000 other issues. Pretty soon team Canada will start to look like a Scout's uniform. Let sport remain sport. I'm not tuning into the Olympics to enter a political/cultural/religious debate, I'm watching to watch hockey. There are other forums and things that can be done if people want to get involved in there issues. No issue should take precedence over another.

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Amen.
I 2nd that sentiment. I don't support any patch on Canada's official Team hockey jersey unless it is our flag or the The Olympic logo.
However if Hockey Canada wanted to sell a T shirt that had a Rainbow patch I would support the concept for those that choose to purchase it but I wouldn't buy one myself.
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I 2nd that sentiment. I don't support any patch on Canada's official Team hockey jersey unless it is our flag or the The Olympic logo.
However if Hockey Canada wanted to sell a T shirt that had a Rainbow patch I would support the concept for those that choose to purchase it but I wouldn't buy one myself.
This is not a bad idea actually. It would let Hockey Canada take a stand and take the heat from IOC, while keeping the athletes out of it. Personally I would like the patch too, but it's a bit of a different question. (And besides it's not my team, so...)

Would be easier to get support for it, and it would give IOC and the Russians fits if hundreds of people started showing up to the games with that shirt. I could see a lot of non-Canadians buying those shirts too. I might buy one.
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I 2nd that sentiment. I don't support any patch on Canada's official Team hockey jersey unless it is our flag or the The Olympic logo.
However if Hockey Canada wanted to sell a T shirt that had a Rainbow patch I would support the concept for those that choose to purchase it but I wouldn't buy one myself.


I would buy one, or two, maybe three.
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