Breaking Bad

[djsFlames]

Apparently the show's ending will 'change the way we think about series finales' coming one of the producers who has seen the whole finished product. Judging by that statement, I think that the M60 and ricin won't at all be getting used for the people or under the circumstances that we expect. Also just looking at how unpredictable each episode has been so far. I think the changes in the characters and their environments will be drastic starting next week (judging by some of the episode summaries). I think we'll be introduced to some new players in the meth network really soon too. Particularly Lydia's Czech connections through Madrigal. I think it's going to add a whole new factor and pressure on Walt and family. I'm fairly sure Todd won't be able to cook up to the standards they want, and they'll look to take measures to get Walt's full cooperation to either mentor Todd until he gets it right, or just to go back to being the master chef against his will.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by tinordi

she had an affair on walt because he was emotionally unavailable and detached from both her and her family. Walt's "affair" with a life of crime including drugs and murder and his increasingly extreme ends that he took to cover it up and conceal from skyler was the impetus for the affair. Skylar has culpability for having an affair but it wasn't like she did it out of nowhere. Walt has a significant amount of responsibility to bear for that. Further, skylar had significant suspicions that walt was having an affair with the second cell phone and the like. Sure, eye for an eye isn't a justification but skylar is a fallible human and broke down at a moment of weakness when she thought walt had stopped loving her. Had he just been the normal father he was at the beginning of the series it likely wouldn't have played out.

This again shows the double standard. Produce thousands of kilograms of dangerous addictive drugs and killing people, even innocent children is okay. Have an affair because you're jerk husband lives a second life and you're the bad guy.

Much of the skylar hate is rooted in sexism. "if only that nagging wife would get out of the way of this awesome guy, she's the problem."

nm

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

She had an affair on Walt because he was emotionally unavailable and detached from both her and her family. Walt's "affair" with a life of crime including drugs and murder and his increasingly extreme ends that he took to cover it up and conceal from Skyler was the impetus for the affair. Skylar has culpability for having an affair but it wasn't like she did it out of nowhere. Walt has a significant amount of responsibility to bear for that. Further, Skylar had significant suspicions that Walt was having an affair with the second cell phone and the like. Sure, eye for an eye isn't a justification but Skylar is a fallible human and broke down at a moment of weakness when she thought Walt had stopped loving her. Had he just been the normal father he was at the beginning of the series it likely wouldn't have played out.

This again shows the double standard. Produce thousands of kilograms of dangerous addictive drugs and killing people, even innocent children is okay. Have an affair because you're jerk husband lives a second life and you're the bad guy.

Much of the Skylar hate is rooted in sexism. "If only that nagging wife would get out of the way of this awesome guy, she's the problem."

Thank you!

Wish you were around when I got thrown under the bus.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Apparently the show's ending will 'change the way we think about series finales'

Frankly at this point there's no character that I really want to see triumphant at the end of this and am hoping for a Reservoir Dogs style finale.

[moon]

The idea that it is sexist if you don't like Skylar is ridiculous but just a question for those that try and promote this garbage, if my wife and another woman that I know also don't like the character does that make them sexist as well?

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by moon

The idea that it is sexist if you don't like Skylar is ridiculous but just a question for those that try and promote this garbage, if my wife and another woman that I know also don't like the character does that make them sexist as well?

Good point. Outside of the pompous posters on here that like to thumb their noses at everyone that dislikes Skylar as being sexist, I don't know anyone personally that likes her character...

[Daradon]

Everyone hang on! Moon has something to say.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by moon

The idea that it is sexist if you don't like Skylar is ridiculous but just a question for those that try and promote this garbage, if my wife and another woman that I know also don't like the character does that make them sexist as well?

It makes them feminists...just kidding gaawwwdd

[djsFlames]

Oh yeah, I'm sure the ending will be disastrous in one way or another for every character, except maybe Saul. And that's absolutely the way it should be.

Although I am a supporter of the idea of Walt being the only one to walk out of the dust once everything settles in the end, despite becoming pretty clearly the most deserving (and likely) to die of all. The irony would definitely make for a good chuckle and a crazy conclusion. Though if he does, I have little doubt that he would put some of that ol' ricin to use anyways.

[Bertuzzied]

When Walt was comforting Jesse in the desert i was hoping he was going to give him one of those head snaps after the hugging.

This is the best show to ever hit TV!
The only problem i have with this mini season is when they had the shootout in the desert with the underground lab. Why the hell would they not use Olivia as a hostage or as a shield. Made no sense at all.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

When Walt was comforting Jesse in the desert i was hoping he was going to give him one of those head snaps after the hugging.

This is the best show to ever hit TV!
The only problem i have with this mini season is when they had the shootout in the desert with the underground lab. Why the hell would they not use Olivia as a hostage or as a shield. Made no sense at all.

What do you mean? I'm pretty sure they were caught off guard with the slaughtering...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

Frankly at this point there's no character that I really want to see triumphant at the end of this and am hoping for a Reservoir Dogs style finale.

The best ending would be for Marie and Hank to mysteriously die in a car accident where the brakes fail leaving Walter clear once Jessie mysteriously disappears without a trace. Walter beats the cancer once again and he and Skyler have a big celebration dinner to which Walt goes out to get some more wine when a mysterious figure comes from behind him and injects Walt with something knocking him out. Walter wakes up saran wrapped on a table with Dexter branding a knife. "You have been very bad Walter" Dexter says as he plunges the knife through Walter's heart.

Dexter flies back to Miami goes out late that evening to have a drink with Deb at Angel's restaurant only to get served their beers by a new waiter that looks just like Saul. Dexter and Deb both feel tired and exit to the parking lot where they both collapse in each other's arms and perish of ricin poisoning as Saul's Cadillac burns out of the parking lot.

The next scene shows the sun rise over the ocean and a sail boat in the distance. In the boat is Jessie and Hanna McKay embracing while staring out at the ocean. The camera closes up on Hanna where you can see one of her Aconitum plants behind her on the deck. She looks at the camera, winks, the screen goes black, and the credits roll.

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The best ending would be for Marie and Hank to mysteriously die in a car accident where the brakes fail leaving Walter clear once Jessie mysteriously disappears without a trace. Walter beats the cancer once again and he and Skyler have a big celebration dinner to which Walt goes out to get some more wine when a mysterious figure comes from behind him and injects Walt with something knocking him out. Walter wakes up saran wrapped on a table with Dexter branding a knife. "You have been very bad Walter" Dexter says as he plunges the knife through Walter's heart.

Dexter flies back to Miami goes out late that evening to have a drink with Deb at Angel's restaurant only to get served their beers by a new waiter that looks just like Saul. Dexter and Deb both feel tired and exit to the parking lot where they both collapse in each other's arms and perish of ricin poisoning as Saul's Cadillac burns out of the parking lot.

The next scene shows the sun rise over the ocean and a sail boat in the distance. In the boat is Jessie and Hanna McKay embracing while staring out at the ocean. The camera closes up on Hanna where you can see one of her Aconitum plants behind her on the deck. She looks at the camera, winks, the screen goes black, and the credits roll.

What. The. ####.

bwhahahahahah

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The best ending would be for Marie and Hank to mysteriously die in a car accident where the brakes fail leaving Walter clear once Jessie mysteriously disappears without a trace. Walter beats the cancer once again and he and Skyler have a big celebration dinner to which Walt goes out to get some more wine when a mysterious figure comes from behind him and injects Walt with something knocking him out. Walter wakes up saran wrapped on a table with Dexter branding a knife. "You have been very bad Walter" Dexter says as he plunges the knife through Walter's heart.

Dexter flies back to Miami goes out late that evening to have a drink with Deb at Angel's restaurant only to get served their beers by a new waiter that looks just like Saul. Dexter and Deb both feel tired and exit to the parking lot where they both collapse in each other's arms and perish of ricin poisoning as Saul's Cadillac burns out of the parking lot.

The next scene shows the sun rise over the ocean and a sail boat in the distance. In the boat is Jessie and Hanna McKay embracing while staring out at the ocean. The camera closes up on Hanna where you can see one of her Aconitum plants behind her on the deck. She looks at the camera, winks, the screen goes black, and the credits roll.

I'd break s###.

The worst Dexter season ever needs to die in its own secluded dark, cold grave.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Much of the Skylar hate is rooted in sexism. "If only that nagging wife would get out of the way of this awesome guy, she's the problem."

Ugh, this is such BS. I don't understand how anyone can say this seriously with a straight face. You don't like a character, so you must be sexist. Okay, got it. Has nothing to do with her being an annoying character played by a mediocre actress, nope. Must be the fact that she has no penis, yep that's gotta be it.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by sun

You don't like a character, so you must be sexist.

If I really like one female character in a show, but can't stand another one in the same show, does that even it out?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

If I really like one female character in a show, but can't stand another one in the same show, does that even it out?

It means you are 50% sexist.

You have to like all the female characters.

[Tinordi]

Step 1: Set up strawman

Step 2: throw stones at straw man

Step 3: High five each other

When did I say that disliking Skylar because she was female was sexist? I said that much of the hate toward Skylar is rooted in sexism because she asserts herself as a woman standing in the way of a man. The basic point is that most criticism of her is that she's a "nag" and that she prevents Walt from succeeding at a life of crime, or that she's responsible for emaciating Walt from being that strong man that is his right. These are all at their base, sexist arguments. Nothing that you people have argued addresses that point.

Anyway, carry on with the false categorizing.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Can you guys just all agree with Tinordi so he doesn't have a spaz attack?

[moon]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

When did I say that disliking Skylar because she was female was sexist? I said that much of the hate toward Skylar is rooted in sexism because she asserts herself as a woman standing in the way of a man. The basic point is that most criticism of her is that she's a "nag" and that she prevents Walt from succeeding at a life of crime, or that she's responsible for emaciating Walt from being that strong man that is his right. These are all at their base, sexist arguments. Nothing that you people have argued addresses that point.

Anyway, carry on with the false categorizing.

Those aren't the two criticisms at all. I would say the number one criticism is that she is a sour, unhappy, unlikable character overall. The nagging might be part of that but considering men and women both dislike her it can't all be about the nagging. The second (and maybe biggest criticism) is her affair with the scumbag boss. Skylar defenders seem to flat out ignore it or try to justify it with some BS "Walt wasn't there emotionally for her." It was an awful thing she did and an easy way to make many people hate her character.

Not sure why you bring up she doesn't let Walt be a successful criminal since she hasn't really stopped him at all and when she tried he moved out and became more ruthless than ever.