The Ken King Jersey Discussion Thread

[Trailer Fire]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

kking@calgaryflames.com

Let the jihad begin folks, this creme Jersey is absolutely fantastic.

Thanks. Ill send an email later when my phone isn't dying.

I love the CP braintrust.

[AC]

I think there's a risk of pissing KK off if he gets email bombed like this.

Why not simply link him to this thread to show how much support those jersey designs have?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by AC

I think there's a risk of pissing KK off if he gets email bombed like this.

Why not simply link him to this thread to show how much support those jersey designs have?

What's he going to do, shut down the site? People seem to really dig the creme, and most people who have supported it have said they'd buy it in a heartbeat. Which they don't say about most of the designs in this thread.

Tell the president to give us awesome new sweaters and give us something cool to watch our last place team in.

[Beer-gut Murray]

Dear Mr. Ken King,

Please consider the following concept for a future Calgary Flames Jersey possibility.

It has received overwhelming support by an avid Flames following. In a sense, a new uniform for a new era in flames hockey.


"Image"

Please do not feel compelled to reply. I trust you are occupied by far more important matters.

Kind regards,

Dedicated Flames Fan

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Beer-gut Murray

Dear Mr. Ken King,

Please consider the following concept for a future Calgary Flames Jersey possibility.

It has received overwhelming support by an avid Flames following. In a sense, a new uniform for a new era in flames hockey.


"Image"

Please do not feel compelled to reply. I trust you are occupied by far more important matters.

Kind regards,

Dedicated Flames Fan

To ensure he opens the email have the subject read "Penis enlargement pills-effectively guarantee"

[kipperfan]

I too really like the creme jerseys and would probably buy a home and an away if they were to actually become our new uni's. Would also really like to see a mock up third jersey using the same theme but with the alternate logo on the front.

[RedMileDJ]

I hate to be "that guy", but I hope Ken King (or whoever makes the decision) doesn't take a few emails as scripture for what all Flames fans like.

I agree that are some great designs here, and I like a lot of them, but I personally can't get past the white 'C' on the red jersey.

I would love to see them keep a black 'C' with white and yellow edging.

Again...sorry to be such a downer.

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by AC

I still prefer this set that was posted in the other thread.

I don't think we should introduce creme as a primary colour for the team.

I love the Brodie jersey here.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

These are phenomenally beautiful! I'd buy one in an instant.

Wow...those are awesome!

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

I hate to be "that guy", but I hope Ken King (or whoever makes the decision) doesn't take a few emails as scripture for what all Flames fans like.

I agree that are some great designs here, and I like a lot of them, but I personally can't get past the white 'C' on the red jersey.

I would love to see them keep a black 'C' with white and yellow edging.

Again...sorry to be such a downer.

I second that. The retro style is cool, but I think the black C really has more to it.

[mattcoco35]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I might be alone on this but I wish the retro jerseys would go back to 1989. Seriously, the were good back then but they are stale and dated now. The 04 Jerseys were by far the best we ever had.

Nar I'm with you on that one. Looks like a mens league jersey lol!

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Split98

So I think I'm finally pretty happy with the concept. After playing around with the nameplate font, I found that I really did just love the clean (though Coyote's-esque) simple sans font. I also still never dug adding the extra band to the waist and included here is the neck-placement alternate logo that would be a great place if Reebok does end up allowing their branding relocation. I also retained the tie-ups, but decided on a jersey coloured thread to blend while keeping the (IMO) great look of a tie-up. Blends, avoids the clutter that bothered some people and adds that classic tie-up touch.



Thanks a lot for the positive response guys, this was definitely something I've had a ton of fun working on.

I feel as though this picture needs to be on every page.

[driveway]

Aren't there fairly serious issues around intellectual property that are raised by threads/blogs/email jihads of this nature?

If the Flames were to release a cream jersey now that even bore a passing resemblance to this design, wouldn't it expose them to a potential lawsuit? I imagine that the intention of most posters here is to show what they like, but what if you're a professional designer, or what if you were hoping to become one, or break into the big-leagues of design?

Having a major sports team select you as the designer for their jerseys would be a huge feather in your cap and would represent a substantial amount of money. Would anyone really blame someone who had made a gorgeous design only to see their team use it - or something very close - and not compensate or credit them?

So, as much as these threads are fun and the designs are great, I think that the more a design shows up on a thread like this the less likely it is to ever come close to reality.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by driveway

Aren't there fairly serious issues around intellectual property that are raised by threads/blogs/email jihads of this nature?

If the Flames were to release a cream jersey now that even bore a passing resemblance to this design, wouldn't it expose them to a potential lawsuit? I imagine that the intention of most posters here is to show what they like, but what if you're a professional designer, or what if you were hoping to become one, or break into the big-leagues of design?

Having a major sports team select you as the designer for their jerseys would be a huge feather in your cap and would represent a substantial amount of money. Would anyone really blame someone who had made a gorgeous design only to see their team use it - or something very close - and not compensate or credit them?

So, as much as these threads are fun and the designs are great, I think that the more a design shows up on a thread like this the less likely it is to ever come close to reality.

It's really not that difficult. Just find the person who made it (in this case Split98), and compensate them for designing the jersey.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

It's really not that difficult. Just find the person who made it (in this case Split98), and compensate them for designing the jersey.

Okay, but in this case, Split98 has posted the design on the internet, solicited advice, and changed the design based on that advice. This means that every single person who commented on the design (at the very least), could have a legitimate claim to compensation for participating in the design of the jersey. Not to mention all the commenters at Icethetics, in addition to the guys who run the icethetics blog itself, Bingo here at CP, and any other places the jersey has been posted.

All it takes is one of those people deciding to be a dink about things and it becomes a legal nightmare for the team.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by driveway

Okay, but in this case, Split98 has posted the design on the internet, solicited advice, and changed the design based on that advice. This means that every single person who commented on the design (at the very least), could have a legitimate claim to compensation for participating in the design of the jersey. Not to mention all the commenters at Icethetics, in addition to the guys who run the icethetics blog itself, Bingo here at CP, and any other places the jersey has been posted.

All it takes is one of those people deciding to be a dink about things and it becomes a legal nightmare for the team.

Not that I think you're wrong, but this is the sort of thinking that makes society worse.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Not that I think you're wrong, but this is the sort of thinking that makes society worse.

No doubt. Since Split probably got most or all of the tweaking suggestions from here, who on CP is going to be THAT guy? I'd like to think none us are a dickhead of that proportion.

[bax]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

No doubt. Since Split probably got most or all of the tweaking suggestions from here, who on CP is going to be THAT guy? I'd like to think none us are a dickhead of that proportion.

Would that actually hold up in a court though? Because you voiced your opinion online under an alias you deserve some sort of compensation? Me thinks not. Also, yeah I hope no one on here is that greedy to even attempt such a things.

[RedMileDJ]

IMO, if you want to keep your idea as yours, then don't put it on the internet.

I'm glad it was shared with all of us.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Split98

So I think I'm finally pretty happy with the concept. After playing around with the nameplate font, I found that I really did just love the clean (though Coyote's-esque) simple sans font. I also still never dug adding the extra band to the waist and included here is the neck-placement alternate logo that would be a great place if Reebok does end up allowing their branding relocation. I also retained the tie-ups, but decided on a jersey coloured thread to blend while keeping the (IMO) great look of a tie-up. Blends, avoids the clutter that bothered some people and adds that classic tie-up touch.



Thanks a lot for the positive response guys, this was definitely something I've had a ton of fun working on.

These are great.

One thing I would like though is a smaller Flaming C.

The logo was much smaller on the 80's/90's jerseys and think that the Flaming C is too big on the current jerseys.