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Hockey · 08-16-2013, 06:48 PM

I agree the Ovechkin will also be a great player throughout his career like he already is and it's a solid pick right now.

I'm just not liking all these players from our era getting snagged up early on. Picking last sucks.

trackercowe · 08-16-2013, 06:56 PM

^ Better to pick last than like 5th or 6th I'd say. The first four are pretty much locks on everyone's lists; after that you could pretty much go in any direction. I don't even like Bobby Orr all the much, but I was in a position where I pretty much had to take him, or be ridiculed for taking someone else too early.

Hockey · 08-16-2013, 07:41 PM

I just meant that picking last sucks because you wait for so long to make your pick and then you make your picks and then have to wait for so long again.

Mean Mr. Mustard · 08-16-2013, 08:08 PM

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He also has a very solid chance surpassing Gretzky for most goals for in NHL history. At the pace Ovechkin is at right now he would need to play another 840 games, so about 11 seasons. .

No he doesn't. At the same age Gretzky had something like 675 goals in comparison to Ovechkin's 370

Hockey_Ninja · 08-16-2013, 08:10 PM

Ovi is the better goal scorer, Crosby is the better player.

PlayfulGenius · 08-16-2013, 08:44 PM

ya, until Ovi puts together a couple of 80+ goal seasons, he ain't comin' close to Gretzky

trackercowe · 08-16-2013, 08:49 PM

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No he doesn't. At the same age Gretzky had something like 675 goals in comparison to Ovechkin's 370

Yes and Gretzky dramatically slowed down during the second half of his career. If Ovechkin plays 13 more seasons he would just need to average about 40 goals per year to beat that record. It's a shame he missed one and a half seasons because of lockouts, or else he'd be that much closer to topping it.

Mean Mr. Mustard · 08-16-2013, 08:51 PM

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Yes and Gretzky dramatically slowed down during the second half of his career. If Ovechkin plays 13 more seasons he would just need to average about 40 goals per year to beat that record. It's a shame he missed one and a half seasons because of lockouts, or else he'd be that much closer to topping it.

Has a player ever averaged 40 goals from the age of 28-41?

Also Gretzky also missed half a season.

trackercowe · 08-16-2013, 09:07 PM

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Has a player ever averaged 40 goals from the age of 28-41?

Also Gretzky also missed half a season.

He missed half a season when his goal totals were way down (11 goals in 48 games). So Gretzky would have lost what, 9 goals because of the lockout? Ovechkin probably lost 25-30 this year alone, and another 30-40 in his rookie season.

Also Phil Esposito scored 516 goals in 12 seasons after the age of 28 (barely playing the last season), so yes it has been done before.

Magnum PEI · 08-17-2013, 08:33 AM

Chara and Pronger.

Heavy Jack · 08-17-2013, 09:03 AM

I'll take Robitaille

Heavy Jack · 08-17-2013, 09:05 AM

I will also take Brian Leetch

trackercowe · 08-17-2013, 11:37 AM

I'll take my favorite player of all-time Chris Chelios.

doctajones428 · 08-17-2013, 02:31 PM

I'm pleased to select:

Ken Dryden

Hockey_Ninja · 08-17-2013, 02:42 PM

Boy am i loading up on the old timers, but i made a mistake passing on him last time so i'll take him now.

With the 45th pick team Ninja is pleased to select: From Fort Qu'Appelle, Saskatchewan, Eddie Shore:

dammage79 · 08-17-2013, 02:50 PM

Darn it I was hoping Pronger would fall to my pick...

Hockey_Ninja · 08-17-2013, 02:53 PM

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Darn it I was hoping Pronger would fall to my pick...

There was about a 1 in a million chance that that was going to happen. I'm glad that i at least got one of the d-men i wanted this time around.

trackercowe · 08-17-2013, 03:22 PM

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There was about a 1 in a million chance that that was going to happen. I'm glad that i at least got one of the d-men i wanted this time around.

I got him 55th overall last time around, so there was a chance it might of happened again. Dunno if I would have taken him over Chelios or not. I see a lot of people regard Chelios as a better player than both Pronger and Stevens. Sort of surprising to me, but I didn't see him play during his time in Montreal, whereas most of us saw Stevens and Pronger at their best.

Hockey_Ninja · 08-17-2013, 03:36 PM

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I got him 55th overall last time around, so there was a chance it might of happened again. Dunno if I would have taken him over Chelios or not. I see a lot of people regard Chelios as a better player than both Pronger and Stevens. Sort of surprising to me, but I didn't see him play during his time in Montreal, whereas most of us saw Stevens and Pronger at their best.

I was going to take Pronger if he made it to my pick. Both Chelios and Shore where by back-up options. Thanks for making the choice easier for me

Iniggywetrust · 08-17-2013, 03:44 PM

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I got him 55th overall last time around, so there was a chance it might of happened again. Dunno if I would have taken him over Chelios or not. I see a lot of people regard Chelios as a better player than both Pronger and Stevens. Sort of surprising to me, but I didn't see him play during his time in Montreal, whereas most of us saw Stevens and Pronger at their best.

I took Stevens over Chelios simply because of the physical element that he brought to a game. He would strike fear into the hearts of any skilled player coming into the zone. Chelios and Stevens have very similiar stats. Pronger had a third of the points that both Chelios and Steven put up in their careers, and certainly didn't have the longevity.