08-15-2013, 01:05 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Location: Halifax
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Landeskog signed to 7 year extension 5.57AAV
@TH2NSTATSGUY: Captain @GabeLandeskog92 signs 7-year / $39 M extension with @Avalanche ...modified no trade clause.
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08-15-2013, 01:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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There goes the 'second contract'...
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08-15-2013, 01:11 PM
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Space Sector 2814
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I like it.
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08-15-2013, 01:14 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Cool. Colorado seems to be doing a pretty good job.
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08-15-2013, 01:44 PM
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Franchise Player
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Personally, I am not a big fan of 7 year deals as a second contract. He will now be a UFA after this, at 27 or 28 years old (whatever it is).
I would rather have a two or three year deal, post ELC. Then, with a fully matured player, give them what they are worth in a full 7 or 8 year deal that takes them to 30 or 31 years old.
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08-15-2013, 01:47 PM
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Location: Halifax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Personally, I am not a big fan of 7 year deals as a second contract. He will now be a UFA after this, at 27 or 28 years old (whatever it is).
I would rather have a two or three year deal, post ELC. Then, with a fully matured player, give them what they are worth in a full 7 or 8 year deal that takes them to 30 or 31 years old.
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Probably cheaper to sign him to a long term deal now rather then a few years when he's proven himself.
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08-15-2013, 01:50 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $ven27
Probably cheaper to sign him to a long term deal now rather then a few years when he's proven himself.
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Depends - also has more risk. Those years at the end, when he is a UFA are going to be expensive.
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08-15-2013, 01:56 PM
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Location: Halifax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Depends - also has more risk. Those years at the end, when he is a UFA are going to be expensive.
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True. However if they signed him to a bridge deal and then this long term contract, then instead of a 5.57AAV it could be a 7AAV. Either way if he keeps growing at the pace he is, he's going to be expensive either way.
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08-15-2013, 02:00 PM
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Franchise Player
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The Av's have signed their core for the next 3 years:
Parenteau, P-A 4M
Mackinnon 3.8M
Landeskog 5.5M
Tanquay 3.5M
Duschense 6.0M
Erik Johnson 3.75M
6 players 26.6M
They have to qualify O'Rielly at 6M (or let him become a UFA)
7 Players at 32.5M
All but Mackinnon and Tanquay on the very worst team in the league last season.
This team has a chance to follow the 2012-13 Flames as one of the few teams to spend to the cap and miss the playoffs.
Hope the Flames follow the Islanders example and only give big contracts to proven players and not take the best case scenario of the player getting better over the next 5 years.
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08-15-2013, 02:00 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Hilarious that they made Duchene sign a bridge contract for small money before the big one but Landeskog gets the big money right away.
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08-15-2013, 02:04 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slybomb
Hilarious that they made Duchene sign a bridge contract for small money before the big one but Landeskog gets the big money right away.
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The O'Rielly factor?
They were afraid Feaster would offer Landeskog a 2 year offer sheet for 6M in year 1 and 10 M in year 2.
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08-15-2013, 02:06 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sweden
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I'll admit, I'm slightly jealous at the Avs right now. They should be pretty competitive moving forward over the next few years.
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08-15-2013, 02:10 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $ven27
True. However if they signed him to a bridge deal and then this long term contract, then instead of a 5.57AAV it could be a 7AAV. Either way if he keeps growing at the pace he is, he's going to be expensive either way.
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year 1 52 pts in 82 games 52 pt pace
Year 2 17 PTS in 36 games 40 pt pace
If he keeps growing at the pace he is going he might be a 30 pt guy in 82 games this coming season.
Av management is obviously blaming his poor season on the poor team overall and were ecstatic that he didn't play anywhere near the level he was supposed to as that would have cost them Mackinnon.
I always think it is the responsibility of the best players to carry the team.
He is no where close to where Phanuef was when he got his big contract and that didn't turn out well.
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08-15-2013, 02:24 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
The Av's have signed their core for the next 3 years:
Parenteau, P-A 4M
Mackinnon 3.8M
Landeskog 5.5M
Tanquay 3.5M
Duschense 6.0M
Erik Johnson 3.75M
6 players 26.6M
They have to qualify O'Rielly at 6M (or let him become a UFA)
7 Players at 32.5M
All but Mackinnon and Tanquay on the very worst team in the league last season.
This team has a chance to follow the 2012-13 Flames as one of the few teams to spend to the cap and miss the playoffs.
Hope the Flames follow the Islanders example and only give big contracts to proven players and not take the best case scenario of the player getting better over the next 5 years.
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Except the are young with room to improve and Mackinnon isn't just an average player added into the mix. Throw in O'Rielly holding out and Landeskog getting hurt they also could be a top team in the next couple years. If they miss the playoffs they will add another top prospect. Time is on their side...not so much for pre rebuild Flames teams
I look at them vs the Oilers and see a better future in Colorado by quite a bit. Much better down the middle. Have players who bring different skills to the table and have better contracts to this point
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08-15-2013, 02:37 PM
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Franchise Player
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I like Colorado's collection of young talent a lot more than Edmonton's.
But both teams are incomplete and several players away from being legitimate contenders.
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08-15-2013, 02:42 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Mackinnon, Duchene, O'Reilly, Landeskog vs Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov
I prefer Colorado's young talent to Edmonton's. Think Colorado has the better supporting pieces as well, but Edmonton does have the better up and coming d-men.
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08-15-2013, 02:46 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I can fully see O Reilly being trade bait the day he can be traded. That's a bunch ofoney tied into their forward group whereas their d still sucks. They could either land a good top 4 d or compile some good picks and free up some dough to go grab a couple good d men off the UFA pile
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08-15-2013, 02:51 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I like Colorado's collection of young talent a lot more than Edmonton's.
But both teams are incomplete and several players away from being legitimate contenders.
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I agree. I think Edmonton will move up the standings first too. Colorado's d right now is terrible. But I think long term they will be much better because of what they have in the middle and they will probably draft higher over the next 2 years
Edmonton is already running into cap issues and it doesn't appear to get any better over the next 2 summers
Points, playoff success and where you were drafted are the biggest money makers for players. Edmonton's biggest issue moving forward is guys like Schultz and Nugent-Hopkins and after that Yakupov all put up points that justify big contracts. All 3 could get 6 per. Having 5 guys at 6 and not one is the type of players that can shut down other star players, 3 are wingers and all but maybe Hall are perimeter players that stay away from the tough areas that you need to excel at to win cups isn't a good mix. Throw on top it appears the Oilers are sick of losing and are looking for playera to help win now. I think it is a year or 2 pre-mature for that
Colorado develops defence and stay patient they will be tough to beat
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08-15-2013, 02:56 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slybomb
Hilarious that they made Duchene sign a bridge contract for small money before the big one but Landeskog gets the big money right away.
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Aside from flash, Duchene hasn't shown more than Landeskog has.
Last edited by Flash Walken; 08-15-2013 at 03:40 PM.
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08-15-2013, 02:59 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Mackinnon, Duchene, O'Reilly, Landeskog vs Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov
I prefer Colorado's young talent to Edmonton's. Think Colorado has the better supporting pieces as well, but Edmonton does have the better up and coming d-men.
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arguable.... Colorado had 3 of 4 last year.... sort of following the Edmonton example of looking good while sucking.
Kane and Toews joined Chicago and Chicago went from 71 pts to 88..as a team.. that was in year 1 ( Duchense and Landeskog and o'Reilly are entering year 3 as a group). Chicago has not had a high draft pick since.
Erik Johnson (or Shattenkirk/Chris Stewart) AND Paul Stasny were as good as Keith and Sharp who were the best players when Toews and kane showed up.
when do Duschene and O'Rielly and Landeskog actually turn the Av's into a winner? They are all getting paid like Kane and Toews were AFTER they carried the team to a Stanley cup win.
I sure hope we don't sign Baertschi to a 5.5M 7 year deal if he gets 40 pts this coming season.
Last edited by ricardodw; 08-15-2013 at 03:02 PM.
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