Breaking Bad

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by HalifaxDrunk

Tim Whatley knew!

Yeah, but he was also just a sadist with better magazines.

[ranchlandsselling]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

he said that when pinkman called and said marie had been in an accident that it was actually walt.

I still don't follow. I don't remember Walt pretending to be Pinkman and calling anyone?
Thanks

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

I still don't follow. I don't remember Walt pretending to be Pinkman and calling anyone?
Thanks

Back when Hank cornered Jessie and Walt in the RV at the auto-wreckers, Walt called Saul and had his assistant pretend to be from the hospital and say that Marie was in an accident...which made Hank leave the scene and allow Jessie to get away. Hank thought that it was Jessie who did it (because he thought that Jessie was the only one inside the RV). Now he speculates that, since Walt is Heisenberg, Walt was actually the one who organized the fake call.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The logical conclusion? Why because it's the same GPS tracker that the DEA uses?

So far Hank has made it a secret to the DEA that he's investigating Walt, there's been no linkages in the plot to Hank and the GPS device, no scenes of Hank reviewing the GPS data or Hank anywhere near a laptop in his investigation in the garage, and there are many characters with motives to track Walt's movements such as Jesse, Skylar, Madrigal, etc.

So I don't think it's as cut and dry as you want it to be.

It's that cut and dry. The DEA does not use those tracking devices, Hank bought it off of Amazon. Walt got one for himself when he bugged Jesse's car.

Jesse wants nothing to do with Walt so tracking his car makes no sense. Since Walt doesn't cook meth any more, he presumably doesn't disappear for long absences and, as episode 9 has shown, spends a good part of his day at the car wash, so there is no point for Skylar to do it and what conceivable reason would Madrigal have for tracking Walt? It's not like that device gives them a real time update on his location. It's just a data logger that has to be retrieved in order to obtain the information. They already know where he works and lives, why would they care where he gets his dry cleaning done?

The second Walt found the tracker, he knew it was Hank because that is the only reasonable answer.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The logical conclusion? Why because it's the same GPS tracker that the DEA uses?

So far Hank has made it a secret to the DEA that he's investigating Walt, there's been no linkages in the plot to Hank and the GPS device, no scenes of Hank reviewing the GPS data or Hank anywhere near a laptop in his investigation in the garage, and there are many characters with motives to track Walt's movements such as Jesse, Skylar, Madrigal, etc.

So I don't think it's as cut and dry as you want it to be.

Nothing in Breaking Bad is cut and dry.

Do we even know what kind of GPS tracker the DEA uses? The one Walt found, and the one Hank used was iirc just an after market one Hank bought. He was following Fring on the sly and wasn't using DEA resources.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Nothing in Breaking Bad is cut and dry.

Do we even know what kind of GPS tracker the DEA uses? The one Walt found, and the one Hank used was iirc just an after market one Hank bought. He was following Fring on the sly and wasn't using DEA resources.

Not that it ultimately matters, but I think the one Hank bought was from some spy store, and later they showed the DEA ones at Madrigal when Hank was getting the methylamine barrels tracked and Lydia spotted it.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Not that it ultimately matters, but I think the one Hank bought was from some spy store, and later they showed the DEA ones at Madrigal when Hank was getting the methylamine barrels tracked and Lydia spotted it.

Yeah, exactly.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Yeah, exactly.

Yeppers.

[GP_Matt]

And the fact that Hank played his hand once confronted with the device.
If it wasn't his he would have been shocked and offering to help figure it out to keep Walt from being suspicious.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

And the fact that Hank played his hand once confronted with the device.
If it wasn't his he would have been shocked and offering to help figure it out to keep Walt from being suspicious.

Hank can't even think straight, he's suddenly going to develop an elaborate ruse to make Walt trust him?

Hank and Walt are operating on two completely different levels. Hank can't even contain his rage and contempt.

[calgarywinning]

Hank's acting in the final scene was impeccable. His eyes and to see the emotions pass through his mind reflected in his eyes, just an unbelievable scene.

Couple of things I notices was the obsession by hank is his driving force. The wily unshaven beard and behaviour shows that for certain.

Secondly, as far as Walt being done, I wonder why he suggests to open another car wash. I know the onscreen reasons to Skylar, to launder the money quicker, etc. But I have to feel that Walt is not done.

Also, he takes a personal satisfaction in the fact that the quality grade of the meth is down to 68%.

Downright awesome show.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by calgarywinning

Hank's acting in the final scene was impeccable. His eyes and to see the emotions pass through his mind reflected in his eyes, just an unbelievable scene.

The slight trembling was what did it for me too. Brilliant scene.

[trackercowe]

Regarding wanting to open up another carwash I just think Walt is a busybody who wants to be in control of the business, and run it his way. But obviously he doesn't want to strain the relationship with Skyler any further. So he's better off to open another car wash and run it the way he wants rather than to get in Skyler's way. I mean he was correcting the placement of air fresheners of all things, obviously he is trying to run it the same way as he did as the meth operation.

Oh and part of it is also that Walt wants to be the guy in charge of everything now. He is unable to take orders from others, and demands full control of his businesses. I honestly believe that with 7 episodes left at least on his terms Walt is done with the meth business. Now I am sure they will continue to try and force him back to "fix things", but he won't come along easily. I imagine whoever Lydia was referring to will start making threats at Walt's family in order to obtain his help. I think there is a real solid chance everyone but Walt will end up it witness protection at the end, which is why the house was in shambles last episode (during the flashforward).

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Regarding wanting to open up another carwash I just think Walt is a busybody who wants to be in control of the business, and run it his way. But obviously he doesn't want to strain the relationship with Skyler any further. So he's better off to open another car wash and run it the way he wants rather than to get in Skyler's way. I mean he was correcting the placement of air fresheners of all things, obviously he is trying to run it the same way as he did as the meth operation.

I think he's just trying to launder the money faster. I don't think he gives a crap about the car wash business and think Skyler is handling it fine.

[Daradon]

Yeah, it's definitely to launder the money faster. He even said 'regarding our story' or something to that effect when he brought the idea up to Skyler.

What good is having 100 mill if you can't spend it?

He definitely does like to be in charge, but I don't think it means anything in this situation.

[calgarywinning]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I think he's just trying to launder the money faster. I don't think he gives a crap about the car wash business and think Skyler is handling it fine.

That was the straight ahead reason provided by the script. I keep coming back to this because it shows Walter's continual desire to escalate.

This has been one of his character traits from the beginning. Why an RV when we can have a lab, why this when we can have this. So this is why I took note of this particular demonstration. In my mind, it clearly shows Walter has not changed his ways.

[polak]

Seriously. Best entertainment program, regardless of medium, of all time.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Yeah, it's definitely to launder the money faster. He even said 'regarding our story' or something to that effect when he brought the idea up to Skyler.

What good is having 100 mill if you can't spend it?

He definitely does like to be in charge, but I don't think it means anything in this situation.

Yeah, exactly. I know Breaking Bad is a show with many layers and depth and the discussion that happens because of that is fantastic... but sometimes people read too much into things, question everything...sometimes you just need to sit back and take some of these things at face value.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I think he's just trying to launder the money faster. I don't think he gives a crap about the car wash business and think Skyler is handling it fine.

I am wondering what Walt and family are still doing in Albuquerque. Money laundering in such a small demographic is going to be painfully slow. It would be easier to find that associate of Saul's and get a new identity for him and his family as multimillionaires in a new location away from Hank and all of their Albuquerque troubles. Maybe that is what he does, and has to return for some reason.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I am wondering what Walt and family are still doing in Albuquerque. Money laundering in such a small demographic is going to be painfully slow. It would be easier to find that associate of Saul's and get a new identity for him and his family as multimillionaires in a new location away from Hank and all of their Albuquerque troubles. Maybe that is what he does, and has to return for some reason.

That's a great point. Even without the identity change. I would assume though it's just to further the plot. But in the real world, it would be a good idea.

If you need a reason you could just imagine it's so Jr. can finish off his last year if school, which had been discussed. As well, people get attached to their homes, their family and friends, even in crappy ol Abq.

Lastly Walt's ego could be a part of it. Not even imagining he may not get away with it.

But you're right, that would be the smart thing to do. But it probably just comes down to a writing thing. Need em at home for Hank to find them out. No reason to move them/complicates the plot too much too move them. (Before whatever goes down in the future)