Camrose woman accusing Alberta sheriff of excessive force

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by jaydorn

So any new details about this incident turn up? Or just the typical CP back & forth about who is/isn't a troll?

http://globalnews.ca/news/772573/cam...exual-assault/

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

LOL!!

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...xcessive-force

http://www.fbi.gov/birmingham/press-...xcessive-force

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=7411781

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/nov/03/guilty/

Took me literallly 2 minutes to find those.

Your point?

https://www.google.com/search?q=exce...hrome&ie=UTF-8

There are plenty of examples of guilty and not guilty verdicts.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by valo403

Your point?

https://www.google.com/search?q=exce...hrome&ie=UTF-8

There are plenty of examples of guilty and not guilty verdicts.

Really?

Except that when excessive force from cops comes into play, the system always fails. Law enforcement is such a tight fraternal organization that you never see true justice when a cop breaks the law

Any other obviously answered questions?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Really?






Any other obviously answered questions?

Meh, his point was just as overdramatic as your answer.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by valo403

Meh, his point was just as overdramatic as your answer.

No...no it isn't.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

LOL!!

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...xcessive-force

http://www.fbi.gov/birmingham/press-...xcessive-force

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=7411781

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/nov/03/guilty/

Took me literallly 2 minutes to find those.

The times they are a changing.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No...no it isn't.

Fair enough, I took both as presenting things at opposing extremes.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by transplant99

http://globalnews.ca/news/772573/cam...exual-assault/

Sounds like there may have been some witnesses so hopefully there is more to this than just his word against hers as if the officer has years of a clean record in his years of service and no other questionable instances it's hard to believe that he would just randomly beat up a woman he was giving a speeding ticket to. It does look excessive on first glance but in a struggle on apavement it would be easy for a larger man to infilict this on a woman if she was stuggling and resisting and I have a hard time believing she just cooperated and he decided he was going to push her head into the cement and subdue her with force. If he was in fact outstepping his boundaries hopefully witnesses will come forward.

I would have a much easier time believing this woman if she came forward and at least was somewhat honest about how she got the officer to arresting her because I have a hard time buying that he just got mad and pulled her out of the car and beat her up because she wouldn't roll down her window because he was banging on it. Who doesn't have their window rolled down before the officer even gets to their car when pulled over?

[Hockeyguy15]

Here's where I am torn, I don't totally believe her story but yet you don't often see people stop and film/take pictures unless something serious is going on.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Here's where I am torn, I don't totally believe her story but yet you don't often see people stop and film/take pictures unless something serious is going on.

That's why I tend to believe it was a two way struggle and not one-sided as if the officer was simply on top of her most motorists may have just kept going but I sense there was quite an attention getting struggle from her which would support resiting arrest. Anyway hopefully the truth comes out.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by transplant99

LOL!!

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...xcessive-force

http://www.fbi.gov/birmingham/press-...xcessive-force

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=7411781

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/nov/03/guilty/

Took me literallly 2 minutes to find those.

Only one of those articles actually mentions the sentence any of them got, which was probation and community service (and losing his job of course). Until I see news stories about cops receiving the same kinds of sentences that regular people would get, there will be no convincing me that they don't get a special kind of "justice"

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Only one of those articles actually mentions the sentence any of them got, which was probation and community service (and losing his job of course). Until I see news stories about cops receiving the same kinds of sentences that regular people would get, there will be no convincing me that they don't get a special kind of "justice"

Here ya go, for the last link...though i suspect it wont satisfy your bloodlust for cops

A police officer was sentenced Thursday to more than four years in prison for using excessive force against a mentally disabled janitor who died after being erroneously suspected of stealing money from an ATM.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Here ya go, for the last link...though i suspect it wont satisfy your bloodlust for cops

Doesn't that still kind of leave you a bit outraged though? 4 years? After being convicted of this:

Thompson, the decorated Spokane police officer whose department continued to rally around him as troubling questions mounted over the fatal 2006 encounter with Otto Zehm, had just been convicted of needlessly beating the unarmed janitor and lying to cover it up.

Zehm, who would have turned 42 on Monday, was beaten by police, shocked with Tasers and left hog-tied on the floor of a Zip Trip convenience store March 18, 2006, after being mistakenly identified as a theft suspect. He died two days later without regaining consciousness.

Thompson, now 64, was the first officer on the scene and claimed Zehm assaulted him. Store security videos contradicted Thompson’s version of the encounter, but Spokane police detectives still cleared him of any criminal wrongdoing and Spokane City Hall continued to back his version of events even as evidence mounted to the contrary.

The FBI later opened its own investigation, leading to grand jury indictments against Thompson in 2009 on charges of excessive force and lying to investigators. Spokane City Hall continued to back Thompson’s version of events, even after learning that Assistant Chief Jim Nicks told federal investigators that Thompson had violated department policy in the encounter with Zehm.

I think the part that bothers me the most is the fact that even in the face of video evidence the Spokane police cleared him of any wrongdoing, and backed his version despite evidence to the contrary. How are people supposed to trust that misconduct by police officers will be handled appropriately when things like that happen? And to top it off he only gets 4 years?

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Here ya go, for the last link...though i suspect it wont satisfy your bloodlust for cops

There's no bloodlust, I just hate seeing dirty cops usually getting away with bullying/murdering people, or getting a slap on the wrist. Sure it's nice to see that one instance where the cop got a fair sentence, but stories like that are the vast minority

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Here ya go, for the last link...though i suspect it wont satisfy your bloodlust for cops

haha, oh man, transplant's overdramatic way of stating things always makes me happy. "Nothing will satisfy your bloodlust for cops!!!". It's like a line straight out of a movie, and placed into a minor message board disagreement. Love it, everytime!

I remember when Letterman had Tom Cruise read everyday, average person lines in the style of his various dramatic acting roles. That's how I imagine Transplant. Every time he posts, just imagine a famous actor, dramatically reading it out loud.

[undercoverbrother]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08...n_3773362.html

A Camrose dentist who said she was assaulted by an Alberta sheriff during a traffic stop has been charged.
Simona Tibu is charged with assaulting a peace officer and resisting arrest, Global News reports.

[Acey]

...and that's why this wasn't a big story. Her and the dude from Lethbridge who faked his own kidnapping should get together for drinks. Lots to talk about.

[Minnie]

Yeah, but that isn't 'new' news. Maybe I misunderstood the news report when they covered this a few days ago, but the way the news reported it, those charges were expected to be leveled all along, but the investigation into her claims would be ongoing and the findings released when the investigation concluded.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Yeah, but that isn't 'new' news. Maybe I misunderstood the news report when they covered this a few days ago, but the way the news reported it, those charges were expected to be leveled all along, but the investigation into her claims would be ongoing and the findings released when the investigation concluded.

ooops sorry

[Peanut]

This is such a weird story. Obviously her injuries look quite significant but I just can't imagine how she was behaving in order for it to escalate from a speeding ticket to getting arrested.