New Superman/Batman film

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

People always think that he's simply rotating the earth in the opposite direction to turn back time but if you watch the montage where water is flowing in the opposite direction, etc. what is really happening is that time is reversing so obviously the earth changing direction is just the process of time going in reverse from Superman's perspective, not the actual earth spinning the other way.

If you think about it that way it makes sense. Just suspend all notions about how time travel is impossible and just assume Superman somehow has the ability to travel back in time by moving fast enough. Just assume it's some kind of superpower that breaks the laws of physics and quantum mechanics as we know it.

Which is even more ridiculous, since traveling at speeds approaching the speed of light (one of his abilities) would make you "travel" to the future, not the past. It's just a terrible scene all around

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

People always think that he's simply rotating the earth in the opposite direction to turn back time but if you watch the montage where water is flowing in the opposite direction, etc. what is really happening is that time is reversing so obviously the earth changing direction is just the process of time going in reverse from Superman's perspective, not the actual earth spinning the other way.

If you think about it that way it makes sense. Just suspend all notions about how time travel is impossible and just assume Superman somehow has the ability to travel back in time by moving fast enough. Just assume it's some kind of superpower that breaks the laws of physics and quantum mechanics as we know it.

Obviously being in space would be the best place to attempt travel at those speeds. My next question, would it be better to try and speed up by circling a planet, and potentially gaining an advantage from being in orbit, or would it be better simply to accelerate in one line.

We really don't know anything about what gives Superman the ability to fly. Theoretically speaking, since he seems to generate some kind of forward propulsion on his own, in the vacuum of space he could reach unlimited speeds. Theoretically, once he breaks the speed of light, he then begins time travel. Although this is more disputed now, that was certainly the prevailing theory at the time Superman I was filmed.

The advantage to circling the Earth, would be that you don't have to return to Earth once you have reached your desired point in time. You would otherwise have travelled a great distance reaching and breaking the speed of light, if you were travelling in a straight line.

Either way, the ending still sucks.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Which is even more ridiculous, since traveling at speeds approaching the speed of light (one of his abilities) would make you "travel" to the future, not the past. It's just a terrible scene all around

Once again, someone with a physics background can correct me, I always though time slowed up to the point of the speed of light. Then it actually goes backwards. You acquire negative mass, which means time has to be negative too. "Special relativity"?

New theories like string theory have overuled this?

[Coach]

Man can ... come from a different planet, fly, have super strength, move incredibly fast, be invulnerable, have laser eyes and ice breath? Yes.

Man can ... travel back in time? No.

I can be nitpicky with movies, but method of time travel is generally not one of them. Since no one has done it before and the actual possibility of it is very debatable, I'm cool to let people come up with creative ways to make it happen. I do find this scene quite stupid, but moreso because of the huge cheese factor than the actual turning back of time. In the context, it's probably oko to let it slide.

[Stay Golden]

Off topic a bit but i recently took down a stack of Spiderman and Batman comics from the 80's from when i was young and i figured they would be worth $10-25 a piece boy was i in for a surprise $2-$8 each basically worthless lol.

For this new movie it will be interesting to see how they portray Batman as we have come to enjoy the Dark Knight ambiance of a movie. Even though the recent reboot of Superman yet again did not have the same mood to it.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by blankall

We really don't know anything about what gives Superman the ability to fly. Theoretically speaking, since he seems to generate some kind of forward propulsion on his own, in the vacuum of space he could reach unlimited speeds. Theoretically, once he breaks the speed of light, he then begins time travel. Although this is more disputed now, that was certainly the prevailing theory at the time Superman I was filmed.

I've read conjecture that Superman uses theoretical exotic particles to defy gravity (gravitons) and propel himself. Because they only exist on paper and we don't know how these operate, some theoretical particles like tachyons are already FTL and can travel forward and backward in time. In the end, it's a comic book movie and you can explain everything away as Superman possessing powers that defy both physics and logic as we know it. He creates some kind of a time warp in Superman I (it's never said that he's actually breaking the FTL barrier or doing anything like that) and in Superman II he kisses Lois and mind-wipes her in the process. The Reeve movies just give him all sorts of wacky/stupid powers.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Off topic a bit but i recently took down a stack of Spiderman and Batman comics from the 80's from when i was young and i figured they would be worth $10-25 a piece boy was i in for a surprise $2-$8 each basically worthless lol.

Tell me about it. I bought Spawn Issue #1 about 15 years ago. I recently checked the value expecting to see that it had appreciated only to discover that it is worth about $5 less than what I originally bought it for.

[Hack&Lube]

Comics from the 80s and 90s are basically worthless because they overprinted everything and collector culture bought them them all up back then. There are huge numbers of them in perfect condition out there so there is no demand.

Comics are only worth money if they are rare.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Off topic a bit but i recently took down a stack of Spiderman and Batman comics from the 80's from when i was young and i figured they would be worth $10-25 a piece boy was i in for a surprise $2-$8 each basically worthless lol.

For this new movie it will be interesting to see how they portray Batman as we have come to enjoy the Dark Knight ambiance of a movie. Even though the recent reboot of Superman yet again did not have the same mood to it.

No one really collects issues anymore. The explosion of graphic novels and trade paperbacks have made them worthless. Unless it's a very rare edition - which excludes almost anything from the 80s onwards - don't expect anything for it.

There was a time where if you wanted to read up on the history of, for example, the x-men, you needed to go out and buy a bunch of individual issues, which created demand. Now you can just pick up the key stories via TPB. Also, people don't really collect large things anymore. No one is interested in having boxes and boxes of comic books around.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Sentry/Void can and has beaten the Hulk in WWH IIRC?

Not quite. They fight and Sentry almost loses his #### and the Hulk helps to stop him from destroying Manhattan. In the end they both revert to human form from exhaustion.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I've read conjecture that Superman uses theoretical exotic particles to defy gravity (gravitons) and propel himself. Because they only exist on paper and we don't know how these operate, some theoretical particles like tachyons are already FTL and can travel forward and backward in time. In the end, it's a comic book movie and you can explain everything away as Superman possessing powers that defy both physics and logic as we know it. He creates some kind of a time warp in Superman I (it's never said that he's actually breaking the FTL barrier or doing anything like that) and in Superman II he kisses Lois and mind-wipes her in the process. The Reeve movies just give him all sorts of wacky/stupid powers.

The "Donner Cut" re-uses the time travel gimmick, and he goes back in time and stops Lois from ever knowing secret identity....not sure I like that any better.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by blankall

The "Donner Cut" re-uses the time travel gimmick, and he goes back in time and stops Lois from ever knowing secret identity....not sure I like that any better.

The Donner recut is pretty good, I especially like the new way Lois discovers Clark's identity and the part where she falls out of the building, etc.

Using the time travel trick again is a bit cheap. Superman might as well have turned back time to before Krypton exploded and fly back and save his people while preventing Zod et. al. from escaping the Phantom Zone if he can keep doing that over and over again.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Using the time travel trick again is a bit cheap. Superman might as well have turned back time to before Krypton exploded and fly back and save his people while preventing Zod et. al. from escaping the Phantom Zone if he can keep doing that over and over again.

He'd be powerless on Krypton due to the red sun.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Tell me about it. I bought Spawn Issue #1 about 15 years ago. I recently checked the value expecting to see that it had appreciated only to discover that it is worth about $5 less than what I originally bought it for.

hahahahaha. Spawn #1 is probably the most printed comic in history!

One of the most mind bottling things is Amazing Spider-man 300 with the 1st full appearance of Venom. There is no flipping way that book is worth $160 dueto the print run. I wish i could short sell comics.

[trackercowe]

I actually think X-Men #1 back in the day has to be the most overproduced comic. There were like 4 editions (maybe 5?) each featuring a different picture of the new team, and everybody winded up buying all 5 copies.

As for comics that are actually worth money really only golden and silver age, and major keys are really worth collecting these days. That stuff will always be quite hot, and if you find the right copies and get them graded it actually can be quite profitable. My brother and I sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of comics on eBay years ago, and it was pretty fun. But then I sunk too much of those profits into newer stuff which just ended up being a giant waste. At least we still own a rough copy of Action Comics #1 (the cover is attached by a piece of string), and a bunch of other nice older comics. I'll probably sell those one day, but I like having them for now.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by blankall

Once again, someone with a physics background can correct me, I always though time slowed up to the point of the speed of light. Then it actually goes backwards. You acquire negative mass, which means time has to be negative too. "Special relativity"?

New theories like string theory have overuled this?

Time slows down for you relative to everything else around you

Since one can not travel faster than light, one might conclude that a human can never travel further from Earth than 40 light years if the traveler is active between the age of 20 and 60. One would easily think that a traveler would never be able to reach more than the very few solar systems which exist within the limit of 20–40 light years from the earth. But that would be a mistaken conclusion. Because of time dilation, a hypothetical spaceship can travel thousands of light years during the pilot's 40 active years. If a spaceship could be built that accelerates at a constant 1g, it will after a little less than a year be traveling at almost the speed of light as seen from Earth. Time dilation will increase his life span as seen from the reference system of the Earth, but his lifespan measured by a clock traveling with him will not thereby change. During his journey, people on Earth will experience more time than he does. A 5 year round trip for him will take 6½ Earth years and cover a distance of over 6 light-years. A 20 year round trip for him (5 years accelerating, 5 decelerating, twice each) will land him back on Earth having traveled for 335 Earth years and a distance of 331 light years.[27] A full 40 year trip at 1 g will appear on Earth to last 58,000 years and cover a distance of 55,000 light years. A 40 year trip at 1.1 g will take 148,000 Earth years and cover about 140,000 light years. This same time dilation is why a muon traveling close to c is observed to travel much further than c times its half-life (when at rest).[28]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I actually think X-Men #1 back in the day has to be the most overproduced comic. There were like 4 editions (maybe 5?) each featuring a different picture of the new team, and everybody winded up buying all 5 copies.

As for comics that are actually worth money really only golden and silver age, and major keys are really worth collecting these days. That stuff will always be quite hot, and if you find the right copies and get them graded it actually can be quite profitable. My brother and I sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of comics on eBay years ago, and it was pretty fun. But then I sunk too much of those profits into newer stuff which just ended up being a giant waste. At least we still own a rough copy of Action Comics #1 (the cover is attached by a piece of string), and a bunch of other nice older comics. I'll probably sell those one day, but I like having them for now.

Walking Dead is the exception to the rule. If you have the first 30 you can sell them asap and #1 is as high as $1200 for an ungraded copy. Only a 7300 print run.

Also for the investors go and try to pick up Justice League Europe #33. For the past 22 years it was worth $1. then last month people finally figured out it was the first appearance of Sonic the Hedgehog and now it is $100-$150. I was selling these for 2 for $1 and I pulled out 7 copies. prob still more in my boxes. haha

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Tell me about it. I bought Spawn Issue #1 about 15 years ago. I recently checked the value expecting to see that it had appreciated only to discover that it is worth about $5 less than what I originally bought it for.

Ya, I've got every single issue from the Superman/Doomsday showdown, from his death, all the imitation Superman issues, to his return. Some even never opened. 20yrs later, they're basically worth face value. So mass produced


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[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Ya, I've got every single issue from the Superman/Doomsday showdown, from his death, all the imitation Superman issues, to his return. Some even never opened. 20yrs later, they're basically worth face value. So mass produced


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That whole series pissed me off, I'd given up comics long ago and went out and bought every one of that series leading up to Superman's death. sealed them in plastic and rubbed my greedy little hands together.

Then they bring him back and those comics become worthless. They did start a great backyard fire pit once though.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Legolas as Batman???

I don't see it personally...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/421...ew-superheroes