Summer Prospect Ranking Poll Round 7 - Page 2 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

kyuss275 · 08-08-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

Umm, that would mean it would have been an even easier decision for you if you thought it was only round 6....

No because i would have picked Wotherspoon at #5 and Janko at #6.

Enoch Root · 08-08-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Yeah, even though I went Sieloff I agree with this post. Poirier and Klimchuk are talented players from a talented draft and yet 3 players from the previous draft are possibly going to be picked before either of them.

I mean I'm not complaining that they will be fighting to be picked in the top 10, it just shows our prospect pools depth now, but I have a feeling in a year or two this list might be mocked for having them so low. Again though, I have a feeling voters like me just haven't seen enough of them to pick them over players we've had a year to watch and evaluate.

Not at all - if they show good progression this year they will (rightly) move up the rankings

Erick Estrada · 08-08-2013, 09:51 AM

Knight again until he gets his due as he's head and shoulders more of a sure thing than anyone left although I have a very good feeling about Granlund.

kyuss275 · 08-08-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Yeah, even though I went Sieloff I agree with this post. Poirier and Klimchuk are talented players from a talented draft and yet 3 players from the previous draft are possibly going to be picked before either of them.

I mean I'm not complaining that they will be fighting to be picked in the top 10, it just shows our prospect pools depth now, but I have a feeling in a year or two this list might be mocked for having them so low. Again though, I have a feeling voters like me just haven't seen enough of them to pick them over players we've had a year to watch and evaluate.

I doubt that. If we do this every year i am sure some prospects will rise and some will drop with seeing them more. Janko could have a great season and be in the top 2 next year, but he could also take a step back and fall to 10.

Poirier looks great in youtube clips but i need to go off a little more than that. I will have a better assesment on him next year.

transplant99 · 08-08-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

I had a heck of a time with this one ... went with Klimchuk in the end but it was a tough call.

I like Knight, I like Sieloff, but I think both will be bottom half of the roster players when they develop. Teams need those and I'm glad the Flames have both of them, but I really took that "are we under valuing the later two first round picks this year" comment from yesterday.

Klimchuk based on his attitude, the fact that he does the little things well, and that he projects to be a top six.

I guess that is one way to determine things.

But really when Klimchuk goes 28th and Seiloff goes 42....is there that much difference? Granted not in the same year and whatnot, but Seiloffs progression would have had him the 1st rd this year undoubtedly

I guess I see Seiloff with a much much higher ceiling than others do, and am stunned he isnt among the top 5 in this thing. Again, I believe he plays more NHL games than anyone else on the list when all is said and done barring injury.

Fun exercise at any rate.

cral12 · 08-08-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Tough to choose between Klimchuck and Poirier but went with Klimchuck. I think he will be a top 6 forward when he hits his prime. Poirier might be as well but I also see him being a 3rd line agitator potentially as well

For the 4th rnd of voting, I went with Klimchuk...too savvy of a player to go in another direction at this point.

SuperMatt18 · 08-08-2013, 10:29 AM

In a tough spot right now too, and last round TBH.

I like Sieloff but his lack of offensive game worries me a little. He has a lot to work on in that area and is not nearly as polished in that area as Wotherspoon.

Knight is also good but had we traded one of those two first round picks for him at the draft CP would have went crazy.

Think the next two have to be Poirier and Klimchuk in some sort of order, I will go with the order that they were drafted in.

dammage79 · 08-08-2013, 10:30 AM

Knight is unjustly getting the snub again. Not a big deal so far as he stays in the top ten. Seiloff, knight, granlund and klimchuk should round out the top eleven. Let's see where this goes 8)

Enoch Root · 08-08-2013, 10:34 AM

How is he getting snubbed? These are all good prospects

Robbob · 08-08-2013, 10:40 AM

I went Seiloff. More of a gut feeling. He may only top out as a 3-4 guy but I think he brings a lot of intangibles to the game that elevate his ranking. I think he has the personality and the style of play that is needed to win.

dammage79 · 08-08-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

How is he getting snubbed? These are all good prospects

Yep they all are. Just a matter of opinion. Majority Votes place these players within the rankings but personally I would have had knight above janko. It's really no big deal. This is a good problem for us fans and the flames

Dienasty · 08-08-2013, 11:04 AM

I am not sure why Sieloff gets so much love. Being the 7th D man on team USA/ only playing a half a season in the OHL, and on top of that injured his knee that cost him the remainder of his season that is worrisome.

Someone earlier mentioned that he thinks that Sieloff could play as early as this season... I think the earliest you will see Sieloff in a Flames jersey would be 3 years. That is with the hope that he doesn't have anymore lost seasons due to injury.

Not saying he is a bad prospect, but as a second rounder last year I am not sure why he would get a boost in his prospect status after what he accomplished last season. I have Poirier/Klimchuck/Knight way ahead of him at this point.

Sieloff=1/2 mediocre season in the OHL
Klimchuck is a year younger and has one outstanding season in the WHL already (over a ppg)

Enoch Root · 08-08-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dienasty

I am not sure why Sieloff gets so much love. Being the 7th D man on team USA/ only playing a half a season in the OHL, and on top of that injured his knee that cost him the remainder of his season that is worrisome.

Someone earlier mentioned that he thinks that Sieloff could play as early as this season... I think the earliest you will see Sieloff in a Flames jersey would be 3 years. That is with the hope that he doesn't have anymore lost seasons due to injury.

Not saying he is a bad prospect, but as a second rounder last year I am not sure why he would get a boost in his prospect status after what he accomplished last season. I have Poirier/Klimchuck/Knight way ahead of him at this point.

Sieloff=1/2 mediocre season in the OHL
Klimchuck is a year younger and has one outstanding season in the WHL already (over a ppg)

I'll take that bet

Dienasty · 08-08-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I'll take that bet

I will clear my statement you will see him lose his "rookie eligibility" earliest in three years.

Playing in pre-season/a couple game cup of coffee at the end of a lost season does not count.

I think it is safe to say he has one more year with the Spitfires, then one in the AHL.

You have yourself a deal

kyuss275 · 08-08-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dienasty

I am not sure why Sieloff gets so much love. Being the 7th D man on team USA/ only playing a half a season in the OHL, and on top of that injured his knee that cost him the remainder of his season that is worrisome.

Someone earlier mentioned that he thinks that Sieloff could play as early as this season... I think the earliest you will see Sieloff in a Flames jersey would be 3 years. That is with the hope that he doesn't have anymore lost seasons due to injury.

Not saying he is a bad prospect, but as a second rounder last year I am not sure why he would get a boost in his prospect status after what he accomplished last season. I have Poirier/Klimchuck/Knight way ahead of him at this point.

Sieloff=1/2 mediocre season in the OHL
Klimchuck is a year younger and has one outstanding season in the WHL already (over a ppg)

When Sieloff signed his ELC Feaster said that they think he has a chacne for this year. Not sure where i read it but i read that they might even let Sieloff play as a #7 d-man this year. I would not want that.

I don't remember Sieloff being the #7 on team USA. I thought he moved up to #4.

GGG · 08-08-2013, 11:27 AM

Went with Seiloff this round. I see him as a number 3 defensemen.

Next up for me is Poirier and Klimchuk as both have 2nd line potential.

Then I will consider the NHL ready but low pot guys like Knight, Horak, and Granlund.

Robbob · 08-08-2013, 11:32 AM

To be honest the reason I don't have Knight very high is because I know next to nothing about him. I know he is great on face offs but one rookie camp isn't enough to go on. After the tournament in September I might have to rethink my prospect ranking.

Table 5 · 08-08-2013, 11:37 AM

Man, one of these rounds Id like to pick the guy who eventually ends up with the win. 0-7 so far.

Erick Estrada · 08-08-2013, 11:41 AM

I haven't picked any defensemen simply because IMO Wotherspoon and Sieloff are low ceiling players. I could see Wotherspoon making the team as a top 6 defenseman but after him we are talking about guys that wouldn't be top 10 prospects on most teams. No saying Seiloff won't play in the NHL one day but its way too early to tell and not enough evidence exists to point to him as a full time NHLer and 5/6 NHL defenseman are a dime a dozen in free agency.

kehatch · 08-08-2013, 12:18 PM

I think people are under rating Knight by a fair margin. Wotherspoon and Sieloff are decent enough prospects. But Knight projects with a very high probability to be the kind of guy a winning team has taking tough minutes on the third line. Even better he has top 6 upside if he can translate his offense to the NHL. Really good prospect.