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Old 08-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #61
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Apart from those specialty cable channels that are nothing but reality shows about little people and babies, CBC is probably the worst network on television.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:08 PM   #62
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Apart from those specialty cable channels that are nothing but reality shows about little people and babies, CBC is probably the worst network on television.
You watch network television (CBC, CBS, CTV, NBC etc.)? The only one I watch is CBC for HNIC so that makes it the best network. Well maybe some golf and NFL games wherever.

Oh yeah, the way it stands now I get CBC Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver in HD on Bell so I can pick any game I want on Saturday night. TSN won't give me these choices.

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The day we're watching Ray Ferraro doing HNiC will be a dark day for all of us.

It's during that dark hour that we should all bring our pitchforks to bear on those who would like to see the CBC destroyed.

Call me crazy, but TSN's flashy presentation of the game isn't any better (it's worse, much, much worse) than CBC's minimalistic, family oriented presentation. It's CBC's commentators that suck, but the way the games are delivered is hands down better than what CBC does.

James Duthie and the Quiz, is that really any better of a segment than Cherry? No. Is seeing a million rickards white commercials better than seeing a million "we go every where, man" commercials? No. Is Paying a TV subscription fee to watch Hockey Night In Canada Games on TSN better than watching them Over The Air for free? No, it's much worse.

Nothing good will come of this. It's a sad day I think.
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CBC captures the emotion and pestiges of hockey much, much better than TSN does. The pregame intros alone are a work of art, and TSN's work in comparision is absolutely laughable. TSN doesn't seem to care much about setting up the story and temperature of the game, and giving proper closer to them afterwards.

But TSN is much more professional with their analysts than CBC is.

If/When TSN/CTV gets the HNiC and Stanley Cup Final rights, I would hope that TSN would captures the emotion of hockey as well as CBC does; but I doubt it. They rush through the presentations and want to show off the "NHL ON TSN" graphic as much as possible.




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Old 08-04-2013, 09:55 PM   #65
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Apart from those specialty cable channels that are nothing but reality shows about little people and babies, CBC is probably the worst network on television.
My all time favorite..

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Old 08-04-2013, 09:57 PM   #66
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I'm one of those people that only gets OTA...so I hope it stays CBC. Netflix + unblockus gives me all the shows I'll ever want for $13/ month. Live sports are the one drawback, but all can be easily found streaming online for free...just means you're on the small screen.
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:42 AM   #67
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I really hope CBC keeps the rights. Cant stand how TSN cuts away from post game coverage within seconds of the final buzzer so they can get to their sportscentre broadcast, etc.

CBC camera angles and broadcast quality make me feel more like it is when I am actually at the game. TSN hast been able to replicate any of that and feels artificial and forced.

Cant recall who mentioned it (I scanned the first couple pages) but with most cable/satellite providers you can switch to a different region broadcast quite easily if you dont want to watch the Toronto game. Also CBC is still available over the air. I have fond memories of watching the Flames vs Detroit in 04 while camping. Certainly cant do that easily if it moves to TSN.

Really hoping CBC comes through here.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:11 AM   #68
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If that article is correct, I don't see how CBC can afford to lose HNIC. Federal funding is being cut. They need to spend this $200m in order to reduce losses.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:29 AM   #69
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Interesting that so many people cite "tax dollars" going to the CBC, but seem to think TSN goes utterly without public funds.

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But the federal government currently subsidizes Canada’s private broadcasters to the tune of about $800-million a year. The handouts come in many forms, including foreign ownership restrictions, tax incentives, production financing and regulatory perks. The rationale is to keep the industry in Canadian hands, and to encourage more Canadian content.

Fans of public broadcasting share the objection to these subsidies. They see the basic business plan of private broadcasters as purchasing American programming at a huge discount, stuffing it with commercials, and feeding it to a Canadian audience. Why subsidize that?
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It doesn't make much sense to my mind to be slashing CBC funding but continuing to prop up the private sector almost to the same extent. So it's not really a straight across Public vs Private funds.

I'd like to see the CBC continue to receive funding because I feel they contribute to the Canadian identity, and are a first class news and sports organization.
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NBC is by far the best NHL production right now. The in-game sound and video angles are simply the best. The play by play is up there as well. The intermission shows and post game analysis are top notch as well......I wish they would just do every hockey game...
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If that Sunday game does happen, I wonder if that will be what CBC looks to. ESPN spent huge to land Monday Night Football, but I think NBC has turned Sunday Night into a huge success. More people are at home on Sunday night winding down from the weekend, and it may result in more viewers.t
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NBC is by far the best NHL production right now. The in-game sound and video angles are simply the best. The play by play is up there as well. The intermission shows and post game analysis are top notch as well......I wish they would just do every hockey game...
Couldn't disagree more. Especially the part about intermission shows. The personalities are grating other than doc. As for camera work, they too often zoom on players face in middle of play only to miss action.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:10 AM   #73
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You watch network television (CBC, CBS, CTV, NBC etc.)? The only one I watch is CBC for HNIC so that makes it the best network. Well maybe some golf and NFL games wherever.

Oh yeah, the way it stands now I get CBC Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver in HD on Bell so I can pick any game I want on Saturday night. TSN won't give me these choices.
Don't get me wrong. I love HNIC. I just think the CBC is superfluous.

But I don't even have TV, so maybe I'm the wrong person to say.
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CBC losing Saturday night hockey is going to further erode youth hockey in this country, which has been dropping in enrollment for some time now. I've had many conversations with Asian Canadian co workers who state that they don't bother subscribing to cable sports packages, meaning less chance that their kids might get excited about the game. At least with HNIC on CBC, those kids might get some exposure to the game, even accidentely.
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My issue with TSN getting it is how they would handle split telecasts. I figure a secondary game might end up on TSN2 the odd time but they can't split their main feed. I'm worried that would result in more Leafs games for us.

That issue becomes even larger once the playoffs roll around.
You can bet your bottom dollar that HNiC on TSN would result in "Toronto Maple Leaf Night in Canada".

The only reason it isn't right now is that CBC has an obligation to represent the nation despite the fact that they would make more money if they only played the Leafs and Canadiens.

Does TSN even have the regional abilities that CBC does?
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sounds good to me if it means no more Glenn Healy!
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CBC losing Saturday night hockey is going to further erode youth hockey in this country, which has been dropping in enrollment for some time now. I've had many conversations with Asian Canadian co workers who state that they don't bother subscribing to cable sports packages, meaning less chance that their kids might get excited about the game. At least with HNIC on CBC, those kids might get some exposure to the game, even accidentely.
Many reasons for declining numbers in youth hockey but television could hardly be considered one of them.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:38 PM   #78
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If that Sunday game does happen, I wonder if that will be what CBC looks to. ESPN spent huge to land Monday Night Football, but I think NBC has turned Sunday Night into a huge success. More people are at home on Sunday night winding down from the weekend, and it may result in more viewers.t
Yeah I love the idea of Sunday night hockey as well building up 1 premier game a week you can finish of the weekend with. Sunday night football has always been huge for me as well. NBC has done a great job with it and you look forward to it.

The idea works great after football ends.
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The CBC montages are great as well. They let the game and players do the talking in the video usually with a great musical background. Reminds me of those old wwf intros to wrestlemania. TSN has james duthie yapping away while players are flipping a puck.

Hockey is at its purest form when its just simple. You don't need the big hoopla the game speaks for itself.
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I'm curious about this, as I seem to recall (perhaps incorrectly) that TSN (not necessarily TSN2) is included in every basic cable TV package from any TV provider in Canada, at least in major urban centres. I would imagine you would have to actively opt out of it to be non-subscribed.
I have Telus satellite and I don't get TSN... I even have the 'sports' package which gives me sportsnet, but TSN is in another package... Which sucks
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