Smoking banned near playgrounds...effective Thursday

[GGG]

Originally Posted by zamler

Got anything to back that up?

A modern car emits 100,000 times less toxic emissions in some respect than a car from 40 years ago. How much safer has smoking become in 40 years? Does smoking serve any useful purpose like a car or an ice resurfacing machine?

Is there any evidence that second hand smoke, smoked outdoors on a a park bench or the edge of a soccer field affect children.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

Awesome law, will rarely or never be enforced.

If its anything like the Lethbridge law effective is the last word that should be used in regards to this law.

Good in theory but the people that think smoking at a park with kids is a good idea in the first place aren't likely to change what they do.

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by GGG

Is there any evidence that second hand smoke, smoked outdoors on a a park bench or the edge of a soccer field affect children.

No, but there is evidence that children are more prone to attempt smoking the more they see others do it.

[Ace]

Not to mention that smokers seem to unanimously think the world is their ashtray and they can litter away in the parks. I remember back in my day many kids had their first smoke by relighting old butts...gross

[qiang]

Originally Posted by zamler

Got anything to back that up?

A modern car emits 100,000 times less toxic emissions in some respect than a car from 40 years ago. How much safer has smoking become in 40 years? Does smoking serve any useful purpose like a car or an ice resurfacing machine?

i support you ...
car near the playground toxics emission?

what the hell

[DuffMan]

when I was a kid we smoked, while we played soccer. damn pussies these days I tell ya.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

Awesome law, will rarely or never be enforced.

If one person gets a ticket it for smoking at a field it will have far exceeded the enforcement of the distracted driving law.

[The Goon]

All the kids at my local playground love my hookah pipe. They are going to be so bummed out.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GGG

Whats the justification?

Who does this help?

I see the law as a way for reducing kids exposure to smoking, not health driven so much as lifestyle driven. If kids see smoking less, perhaps they maybe less inclined to give it a go. Will it work, who knows. Is it a sound idea, who knows.

Is smoking bad and something that we all hope kids never do, yes.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If one person gets a ticket it for smoking at a field it will have far exceeded the enforcement of the distracted driving law.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...795/story.html

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If one person gets a ticket it for smoking at a field it will have far exceeded the enforcement of the distracted driving law.

Seeing as there were just a bunch of stories on the news about it this week, that is a pretty ignorant response.

Just under 2,000 tickets were issued in the first three months of 2012, compared to over 2,600 during the same period this year

http://globalnews.ca/news/744993/dis...tinue-to-rise/


So they are handing out more than ever.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I see the law as a way for reducing kids exposure to smoking, not health driven so much as lifestyle driven. If kids see smoking less, perhaps they maybe less inclined to give it a go. Will it work, who knows. Is it a sound idea, who knows.

Is smoking bad and something that we all hope kids never do, yes.

If this is the logic the place to ban smoking is on television.

I just think at some point we have to quit persecuting smokers who aren't harming others health. As long as they pay additional taxes that roughly offset their future costs then they shouldn't be pariahs.

It is up to parents to educate their children that smoking is stupid. I think we went to far when we required cigarettes to be hidden from view in gas stations and this just continues down that path.

Overall we should be working to be more permitting of other peoples activities. I for one would love to be able to have a beer while watching my kids play soccer on a nice summer evening. (I do sometimes and just put it in a Nalgene bottle but I would like to do it legally)

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Seeing as there were just a bunch of stories on the news about it this week, that is a pretty ignorant response.


http://globalnews.ca/news/744993/dis...tinue-to-rise/


So they are handing out more than ever.

Ha ha you fell for that fluff? 2600 tickets sounds like a lot but it's less than the amount of speeding tickets generated in any given week in this city. People are still texting and talking on their phones like the law never existed. It's cute and all that officers are dressing up as homeless to hand out more tickets but the truth is that they are stooping to these levels because as long as the fines are paltry and no demerits are handed out people aren't going to stop using their phones. Right now the fine is essentially the equivalent of your average photoradar ticket to which people shrug their shoulders, pay the toll and make note not to speed in that intersection next time. Make the fine $300+ and 3 demerits and people will start taking the law more seriously.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Wow, of all the smoking threads, I genuinely thought this one would be unanimously in favour of the smoking ban, and yet here we are.

I'm not a smoker but I also am not in favour of this. I just see it as some BS law trying to further restrict smokers. Someone lighting up a cigarette outside, near a playground is not going to cause anyone any harm, so why is this law even necessary? What are we to believe, that Chain-Smokers Anonymous hold all their meetings over by the jungle gym during recess? Give me a break. This is anti-smoking interest groups in their crusade to ultimately have tobacco banned.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

No, but there is evidence that children are more prone to attempt smoking the more they see others do it.

So replace the cigarettes in Mad Men with lollipops?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GGG

If this is the logic the place to ban smoking is on television.

I just think at some point we have to quit persecuting smokers who aren't harming others health. As long as they pay additional taxes that roughly offset their future costs then they shouldn't be pariahs.

It is up to parents to educate their children that smoking is stupid. I think we went to far when we required cigarettes to be hidden from view in gas stations and this just continues down that path.

Overall we should be working to be more permitting of other peoples activities. I for one would love to be able to have a beer while watching my kids play soccer on a nice summer evening. (I do sometimes and just put it in a Nalgene bottle but I would like to do it legally)

I am fine with banning smoking on TV.

If we agree "smoking is stupid" what is wrong with making the "pariahs".

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I am fine with banning smoking on TV.

If we agree "smoking is stupid" what is wrong with making the "pariahs".

Oh man, what next? guns? good luck.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by Ark2

So replace the cigarettes in Mad Men with lollipops?

Did you just compare a television show created for adults with playgrounds created for children?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Oh man, what next? guns? good luck.

WOW jump right to guns, what about gun toting Nazis looking to Godwin people?



We are talking about smoking currently.


I don't have the answers. He brought up banning smoking on TV, I thought is was a good idea. Perhaps ban it till a certain hour.

I do know that smoking is bad.

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by Ark2

So replace the cigarettes in Mad Men with lollipops?

If your 2-8 year-olds are watching Mad Men, then you and your significant other should be sterilized and your children should be taken away from you.