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jammies · 07-25-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Muta

In that case Ozy, start eating alot more pixie sticks and jube jubes instead. It's only a placebo effect anyways, so you should be healthier as a result.

Did your "help me bro!" wristband suddenly start yelping?

PsYcNeT · 07-25-2013, 01:10 PM

This kind of thinking is what causes people to buy magnetic bracelets or those balance bands.

THE HOLOGRAM IS SPECIAL!

Muta · 07-25-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Oh was it a joke? Because jokes are supposed to be funny.

Oh, the irony...

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

This is a well presented rebuttal that in no way represents a massive logical fallacy.

Muta · 07-25-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jammies

Did your "help me bro!" wristband suddenly start yelping?

Huh?

Ozy_Flame · 07-25-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kavy

Doesn't matter.

If I take a pill and the pill solves the problem I want it to, because of how it is suppose to work, Great!

If it solves the problem because the human brain is much more complex then anyone though, and through the placebo effect the problem gets solved - Great!

Point is, I don't care if a pill causes a placebo effect to solve my problem, if it works it works.

Exactly! This is what I've been trying to get across. I don't really care how it works, all I know is that I am not getting sick taking them. That's all that matters. If it's really just a placebo effect, then who cares? It works for me. I'll make it clear for some of the over-thinkers in this thread:

Vitamin = placebo
placebo = works!

Then,

Vitamin = works!

And,

Ozy_Flame = keep taking vitamins

Pretty simple, folks!

MissAvery16 · 07-25-2013, 01:20 PM

I only take my multivitamins on day's I don't get enough from my daily diet and days I train. I personally haven't noticed much of a difference though, and waste really planning on purchasing more in the future.

troutman · 07-25-2013, 01:20 PM

My BS meter goes off when people say they haven't had a cold or flu for a number of years. I guess it is possible, but I seem to get infected 2-3 times a year. Could have to do with being a parent of small children.

Knut · 07-25-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Exactly! This is what I've been trying to get across. I don't really care how it works, all I know is that I am not getting sick taking them. That's all that matters. If it's really just a placebo effect, then who cares? It works for me. I'll make it clear for some of the over-thinkers in this thread:

Vitamin = placebo
placebo = works!

Then,

Vitamin = works!

And,

Ozy_Flame = keep taking vitamins

Pretty simple, folks!

Where does vitamin = potentially harmful enter into the equation?

Mean Mr. Mustard · 07-25-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Exactly! This is what I've been trying to get across. I don't really care how it works, all I know is that I am not getting sick taking them. That's all that matters. If it's really just a placebo effect, then who cares? It works for me. I'll make it clear for some of the over-thinkers in this thread:

Vitamin = placebo
placebo = works!

Then,

Vitamin = works!

And,

Ozy_Flame = keep taking vitamins

Pretty simple, folks!

The problem with that statement is the question of what if the ingredients of the placebo are actually detrimental over the long term as is potentially the case with multivitamins.

Muta · 07-25-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesla

Where does vitamin = potentially harmful enter into the equation?

You must have it mistaken for cyanide pills. For which, you could take a placebo and it would have the same effect.

MissAvery16 · 07-25-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

My BS meter goes off when people say they haven't had a cold or flu for a number of years. I guess it is possible, but I seem to get infected 2-3 times a year. Could have to do with being a parent of small children.

I haven't been sick in 2 years. I only just started taking multivitamins last month and have not noticed a difference too be honest other than bright yellow urine. You must have a weak immune system and not workout much.

puckluck2 · 07-25-2013, 01:26 PM

I guess not taking vitamins causes arrogance as well.

flamesfever · 07-25-2013, 01:27 PM

I have rarely taken vitamins and get one very bad cold about every 5 years, which seems to immunize my system for the following 5 years.

I do believe Canadians should periodically monitor their vitamin D level, and take vitamin D3 supplements during the low sunlight period, late fall / winter / early spring months, under the direction of their GP. I am especially sensitive to this, as my wife suffers from MS.

Muta · 07-25-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by flamesfever

I do believe Canadians should periodically monitor their vitamin D level, and take vitamin D3 supplements during the low sunlight period, late fall / winter / early spring months, under the direction of their GP. I am especially sensitive to this, as my wife suffers from MS.

Yup. I take one Vitamin D pill in the summer and three in the winter. You need about 3000 IU daily. If there's any vitamin you should taking through a supplement, it's this one.

Ozy_Flame · 07-25-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

The problem with that statement is the question of what if the ingredients of the placebo are actually detrimental over the long term as is potentially the case with multivitamins.

True, but by the same token, are you suddenly just going to stop using cell phones and going outside and into sunlight because they can cause various forms of cancer?

Life offers varying amounts of risk. You just have to balance that risk with your own personal preferences.

jammies · 07-25-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

Washing your hands and not picking your nose also prevents the cold and flu.

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Originally Posted by troutman

My BS meter goes off when people say they haven't had a cold or flu for a number of years. I guess it is possible, but I seem to get infected 2-3 times a year. Could have to do with being a parent of small children.

Good at law, not so good at personal hygiene.

PsYcNeT · 07-25-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

True, but by the same token, are you suddenly just going to stop using cell phones and going outside and into sunlight because they can cause various forms of cancer?

Wait, since when does non-ionized radiation cause cancer?

troutman · 07-25-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MissAvery16

I haven't been sick in 2 years. I only just started taking multivitamins last month and have not noticed a difference too be honest other than bright yellow urine. You must have a weak immune system and not workout much.

I don't think I have an unusual immune system. I am in good shape. I eat well. Maybe because I have a job where I come into contact with many people every day, and children that come into contact with many other kids at school.

To not be sick for years - you would have to be a hermit or a bubble boy?

jammies · 07-25-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jammies

Did your "help me bro!" wristband suddenly start yelping?

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Originally Posted by Muta

Huh?

Oh, sorry, is it more like the Batsignal? A giant "MUTA!!!" lights up the sky, and you know to leap to your keyboard? I assume there must be some method whereby Ozy invokes you when he finds himself out-interneted. Do tell, I'm sure it'd be useful for beginning superheros everywhere who are dying to know.

Muta · 07-25-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Wait, since when does non-ionized radiation cause cancer?

I bet you pat yourself on the back and smile while looking out a window after posting comments like these.